Anyone should be against it on principle alone. That said I have never seen anyone in the OBD ever argue for multiversal Kratos.
kratos is not multiverse lv
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DarkestGlory seems to be arguing for it, at the minute, so that's one person, I guess.
Bob74h
The Supreme King
Yea your seeing shit that aint there
I have been arguing against universe lv god of war
Where darkest glory was arguing for it
Cause, I shocking agree with the forum for once
I agree with god of war not ranking as multiverse lv or whatever
I think the kinda collectivist bs reason for why they agree with me is dumb
Yea but man, you clearly were not reading cause this entire thread was just me shiting on gow wank
Bob74h
The Supreme King
DarkestGlory seems to be arguing for it, at the minute, so that's one person, I guess.
Normally im the one to disagree with the entire forum on stuff and yet here it's this guy doing the same
guess there are some things even me and this site see as lol worthy
DarkestGlory
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And? I still don’t see how any of what you said contradicts one of Hercules’ major character points, in that he lifted the sky off Atlas’ shoulders temporarily in order to obtain the apples. He didn’t actually lift the sky in god of war 1, obviously, lol.
The rest is clear hyperbole, although given “infinite sky” is referenced multiple times throughout Gow it’s hard to merely dismiss it as such.sky in this case just means universe
the whole thing is just hyperbole unless your saying water can mate with the sky as your source says
same water that mates with this infinite sky is called mountainous
mountain lv sky
if you take your quote literally as your doing instead of figurately like it's obviously is intending
Bruno was asked how mythological creation myths can coexist, and his reply was:
"All mythologies exist - all at once in the world of God of War. All creation stories are valid because all gods and myths are separated geographically. Kratos destroyed the Greek World at the end of God of War 3, and not the "entire" world. This is how it works.”
What’s more important is that he is then asked whether the Greek World he was referring to was merely Greece or the entire universe viewed through the perspective of Greek Mythology, to which Bruno also says:
"Everything related to the Greek World falls under the Greek Pantheon and its creation stories."
Which just confirms it further.
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You also COMPLETELY ignored everything I mentioned about Uranos, Chaos, Atlas lifting the heavens etc. All of it. This is a pathetic attempt at lowball and completely ignoring major aspects of my arguments thinking you’d get away with it.
A statement used merely to emphasize how they sit on YggdrasilThe same realms which freya says are in the same physical space as the other realms
“All the realms exist in the same physical space - reflections of each other. These doors, the towers outside, and the nine realms are all intertwined, and co-existing on the branches of the World Tree."
It is also mentioned how they exist on completely different planes of existence
“All nine realms occupy the same physical space, only on different planes of existence.”
The realms also have different space and flow of time, as stated by Matt. As I mentioned before, they’re large enough to contain starry skies and such, which wouldn’t be possible if we’re talking comparatively minuscule geographical constructs. Hell, Muspelheim is even the source of all suns and stars. The world tree is even directly stated by Cory to extend to infinity. I’ve no clue how to upload scans here but I’m sure you’ve seen all this shit before and are just twisting the facts to fit your deluded perspective.
Cypher0120
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Not Universe level. And questionable continental.
But you don't need to be continental to harm him given everything that can and has successfully done so.
But you don't need to be continental to harm him given everything that can and has successfully done so.
Bob74h
The Supreme King
he would have too cause as hercules tells kratos
he did his labors as the ghost of sparda was on his mission to kill ares
Unless your saying he's lying for no apparent reason
a single apple
Not apples
the myths and novels can say whatever they want
the games disagree
Hercules - As you were crowned god of war
I was sent to find a apple
Timeline dont line up if the novel is right
So altas never had his chains removed until gow2 and yet somehow they were removed before then during god of war 1
So ig altas lied
and he was actually freed before
why because a contradictory one off novel said so
almost like your counting solely to wank and you dont give one fuck if it makes sense in the context of the games
Altas, mr never trust the promise of a olympian ig just trusted hercules to return holding the world after he holds it for a second for hercules to get comfortable yknow like in the myths
Except here it makes no sense cause altas does not trust one word of what someone like hercules would say
but yknow the mythology is above the god of series
so zeus killed cronos and cut him in pieces
the god of war 3 boss fight aswell as god of war 1 game where you find him in a dessert are just non canon
I dont care about the myths or some dumb shit novels that make zero sense in the context of the games
So everything there is hyperbole except the part which happens to agree with you
how convenient is that??
Already debunked all the wank arguments in the opening post
no need to repeat myself
Altas is just lifting the greek world
And there are various support pillars so not even the whole load would be lifted by altas
it's hyperbolic
like a branch extending to infinity
Is the same way as saying
human stupidity is like the universe, it's infinite
human iq is multiversal clearly
Einstein would agree
Or does such thing as figurative language exist
DarkestGlory
Illustrious
LOL!!!!!!!! I went over all of this shit, which I’ll quote in a moment, which you responded with? Jack-shit!! Nothing! Zip! Zero!
“Regardless, I’ll mention that Atlas is also directly stated to hold up the Heavens. Uranus himself is noted to be the embodiement of the heavens, and a single punch to his face ejected the universe in consequence, making it abundantly clear that “heavens” merely refers to the universe. I trust you’ve seen all this already, and are just being disingenuous, but I can provide scans if necessary.”
You didn’t respond to this, rather you completely ignored it.
“CONCEPT ART LMAO. This is also directly contradictory to Persephone’s statement that the World would “revert back to Chaos” if the World Pillar, singular, was destroyed. No mention of other pillars anywhere. Chaos, by the way, is described as the realm of darkness which predates even the universe itself, and given thre wording it’s clear this is exactly what Persephone was referring to, so in that one sentence she debunks all of this nonsense you’ve written out thinking it was a debunk LOL.”
Also completely ignored. Your entire argument is based on ignoring my main points and twisting facts to fit your deluded vision of what Gow should be.
Then I summed up what you ignored
“You also COMPLETELY ignored everything I mentioned about Uranos, Chaos, Atlas lifting the heavens etc. All of it. This is a pathetic attempt at lowball and completely ignoring major aspects of my arguments thinking you’d get away with it. “
Which.. surprise surprise! You ignored! LOL!
Again, it’s because we’ve already heard infinite sky used a few other times. The other parts are hyperbole based on their very nature alone.
You also ignored everything I said after this LOL!
“Bruno was asked how mythological creation myths can coexist, and his reply was:
"All mythologies exist - all at once in the world of God of War. All creation stories are valid because all gods and myths are separated geographically. Kratos destroyed the Greek World at the end of God of War 3, and not the "entire" world. This is how it works.”
What’s more important is that he is then asked whether the Greek World he was referring to was merely Greece or the entire universe viewed through the perspective of Greek Mythology, to which Bruno also says:
"Everything related to the Greek World falls under the Greek Pantheon and its creation stories."
Which just confirms it further.”
LMAOOOOO! This is the best your sorry ass can do? You ignored EVERYTHING AGAIN BY THE WAY, and the one part you didn’t ignore you dismiss as hyperbole? And related it to some random Einstein statement? Pathetic. A direct statement on it extending to infinity can NOT be ignored unless contradicted by something else, which it is not.it's hyperbolic
like a branch extending to infinity
Is the same way as saying
human stupidity is like the universe, it's infinite
human iq is multiversal clearly
Einstein would agree
Or does such thing as figurative language exist
Further info on the world tree:
Yggdrasil supports all of creation, with each strand transcending time and space.
The realms are constructs within its branches:
Again, it’s directly mentioned that Hercules lifted the sky off Atlas’ shoulders, anything you say against it is blatant cope. Unless your word and logic is superior to the novels.
Bob74h
The Supreme King
again it’s directly said that the greek world was created by the primdials not all of reality
anything you say against it is blatant cope. Unless your word and logic is superior to bruno
It's directly shown that there is additional pillars
anything you say against it is blatant cope. Unless your word and logic is superior to the creators of the games
It says like
It's clearly a figurative context
It's like it's extending to infinity not that it's literally doing it and anything you say against it is blatant cope. Unless your word and logic is superior to the novels
And it's directly said that hercules did the apple quest during gow 1
and
and it's said that altas was not freed until gow 2 like at all as his chains were never broken
and
DarkestGlory
Illustrious
Good lord this response was shittier than the last one.
“Bruno was asked how mythological creation myths can coexist, and his reply was:
"All mythologies exist - all at once in the world of God of War. All creation stories are valid because all gods and myths are separated geographically. Kratos destroyed the Greek World at the end of God of War 3, and not the "entire" world. This is how it works.”
What’s more important is that he is then asked whether the Greek World he was referring to was merely Greece or the entire universe viewed through the perspective of Greek Mythology, to which Bruno also says:
"Everything related to the Greek World falls under the Greek Pantheon and its creation stories."
Which you continuously ignore LOL. Not to mention we see fucking stars flying out of his body in a single punch, with the stars confirmed to be real by Matt. How the FUCK can you call that Greece’s creation LOL.
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I love how your post shortened so much as a result of blatantly ignoring aspects of my post and you repeating your bullcrap over and over LOL.
Shit response. I’ll just copy paste my debunk that you totally ignored:again it’s directly said that the greek world was created by the primdials not all of reality
anything you say against it is blatant cope. Unless your word and logic is superior to bruno
“Bruno was asked how mythological creation myths can coexist, and his reply was:
"All mythologies exist - all at once in the world of God of War. All creation stories are valid because all gods and myths are separated geographically. Kratos destroyed the Greek World at the end of God of War 3, and not the "entire" world. This is how it works.”
What’s more important is that he is then asked whether the Greek World he was referring to was merely Greece or the entire universe viewed through the perspective of Greek Mythology, to which Bruno also says:
"Everything related to the Greek World falls under the Greek Pantheon and its creation stories."
Which you continuously ignore LOL. Not to mention we see fucking stars flying out of his body in a single punch, with the stars confirmed to be real by Matt. How the FUCK can you call that Greece’s creation LOL.
Concept art =/= “word of god.” Regardless, the games completely contradict this as Persephone states that once the world pillar, singular, is destroyed, the world will devolve into chaos. Chaos being the primordial realm of darkness predating the universe, which AGAIN backs up Atlas holding up the entire universe. Some random concept art which contradicts the very point of the story and character of Atlas as a whole is not evidence against the fact that Atlas held up the universe by himself.
What? The word “like” is not indicative of it being figurative by any means. You’ve yet to prove this false. You’ve also gone and ignored the rest of my post on the tree LOL. Pathetic. Is this what you people call “debunks”? LOL.
And? This still doesn’t contradict the direct statement of Hercules lifting the sky off Atlas’ shoulders LOL. Try harder.
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I love how your post shortened so much as a result of blatantly ignoring aspects of my post and you repeating your bullcrap over and over LOL.
Bob74h
The Supreme King
I was only responding in that way manner more because in the way
you handled responding to me
So if it's separated by land as bruno says
then tell me how it's not talking about greece but rather some different universe
that's what bruno said
they created the greek world
I am just telling you what the staff on the video games are saying about these events
And matt didt even work on ascension
he's the lead narrative guy for ragnarok or GOW5
unlike bruno
i would say bruno knows more matt on ascension
and even if uranus created the universe as it was or whatever
their would still be no reason to suspect that it scales to kratos
What's to say
it's talking about a realm of any kind
The primordial were not made until god of ascension
so im almost sure that chaos here just means literal chaos like saying it would devolve to ruin
So if you say wow
I feel like, I could eat a horse
Or it's raining like cats and dogs
Instead of expressing that it's raining hard or that you are very hungry, you are actually saying cats are falling from the sky and you would eat a horse
Like is used often to express a figurative meaning
another example being, “that news hit me like a ton of bricks'' or ''if im to say life is a like a box of chocolates''
Am i saying that news made a literal ton of bricks hit me or am i suggesting
that something affected me badly
same goes with the box of chocolates example
im not literally saying life is a box of candy, Im just saying life is full of surprises
Who fucking keeps posting to Bob, holy shit.
DarkestGlory
Illustrious
It’s hard. It’s damn hard. I’m losing my mind
Just stop taking the bait and stop giving him attention
DarkestGlory
Illustrious
I wasn’t even talking about the wording, the content in the response was just ass. You didn’t even try.
I’m honestly lost. What exactly are you even talking about?
The Greek World which, as I showed with the quotes from Bruno, doesn’t refer to a country, but rather the universe from the perspective of Greek mythology. I can’t bother to copy paste it again. Just read.
Doesn’t matter, honestly.And matt didt even work on ascension
he's the lead narrative guy for ragnarok or GOW5
unlike bruno
i would say bruno knows more matt on ascension
As we know, Thalassa punching Uranus is how the universe was brought to life. Confirmed by WoG a few times but namely the one I linked. We also know that Uranus was defeated by Cronos. Cronos being just slightly less physically strong than Atlas, whom couldn’t break out of or do jack-all the to the chains which held him, the very same chains Zeus utterly one-shot @ 1m 31s of the video.
We also have the two strongest titans in Atlas and Cronos being defeated by two Olympians who, second or not, are weaker than Zeus himself.
Even simpler, Zeus literally one shots the entire Titan race with his Blade of Olympus, which is explicitly just a concentration of his own might, and he considers the titan race as a whole completely irrelevant to his own might. It’s also alluded to multiple times that he can one shot any and all olympians, if that means anything. Which it does, given Hades and Poseidon’s feat against Cronos and Atlas.
Essentially, he can one shot nearly anyone in the entire verse as consistently demonstrated by the narrative and statements, barring Kratos for obvious reasons. I doubt I need to delve into Kratos’ scaling to Zeus though.
Saying Atlas was crushing Kratos with two fingers is extremely disingenuous considering Kratos was so far out of his prime it’s like considering a toddler to an athlete, even worse so.
Chaos is the primordeal realm of darkness predating the universe and Uranos’ stabilization of such, and given Persephone’s wording of the World will “revert into Chaos”, same World that we know bluntly refers to the universe, it can really only have one meaning, and one alone.
I haven’t even gone into Norse stuff, with the splintering of the World Tree and such, Etc.
DarkestGlory
Illustrious
By all means, debunk it then. Be my guest.every obder has said, actual stats wise, multiversal kratos is just a dream
this thread is still ongoing
DarkestGlory
Illustrious
Debunk Multiversal Kratos. By all means. Please do. Given that you’ve not touched on the content, but rather been nothing but condescending and, frankly, sad.what debunk you dupe?
who are you actually? you are just bob with slightly better grammar
Like what does this mean? Debunk something or get lost, lol.hey gais
i turned neggedglory to nu bob, in one shot
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