Like I understand what you are saying but it still feels off to me. Like Vibranium is bullshit, news at 11 but how hard was Tony holding back then? Especially when he wanted to take Bucky in due to knowing he killed his parents explicitly?
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Like I understand what you are saying but it still feels off to me. Like Vibranium is bullshit, news at 11 but how hard was Tony holding back then? Especially when he wanted to take Bucky in due to knowing he killed his parents explicitly?
To think this all started from Gordo claiming Sony Morbius wrecks MCU Cap and BP.
As if a bloodlusted Cap couldn't just ricochet his shield off some shit so it decapitates him. Or BP couldn't just slice him with vibranium claws (or just use his own force against him with the newer habit that could absorb kinetic energy and release it in a burst).
Like Blade said earlier. Sony Morbius really shouldn't go any higher than beating Netflix Defenders.
They were moving and making noise beforehand, you even admit this
they screamed louder. Big whoop. They’re not “reacting” to Ultron.
also another feat I noticed in that video was Cap intercepting Ultron and grapling him mid-flight into the subway door
Those same Ultron bots can chase a Jet in that very same video you posted
you making an argument for incredulity doesn’t make anything here less inpressive. those lasers are definitely faster than bullets.
The durability is relevent because we’ve seen That sheild damage characters like Ultron. So it scales to its DC in piercing damage.
Dude…this is literal cope
Just admit you pulled that out of his respect thread and didn’t watch the fight beforehand, that’s ok
They made a bigger noise because they see him charging at them. That’s, like, the entire reason they screamed to begin with
And yet they were killed by Hawkeye and Black Widow, do you think the car that ran them over was moving faster than a bullet too?
We don’t know anything about that Ultron other than the fact Cap can fight him
this was pre-vibranium Ultron
He doesn't.
Why would you think think Morbius can do anything against Vibranium? The shield can defend against any attack he can dish out, and it can slice right through him considering what it's damaged before.
If that was true both iron-man and war-machine not just dodging every hit from Steve would mean they can't react to their own speed. Which obviously isn't true.
They could get tagged because he was fast enough to tag them. End of story.
Or do you wanna make a Morbius vs Civil War Iron-man and War Machine thread now?
Of couse I pulled it out of the respect thread. Comicvine is the easiest place to get a short clip of these feats.
>They were literally panicking screaming throughout when Cap tackled him into the subway.
>They grow louder when Cap is in the air already flipping.
yeah they didn’t react to Ultron.
Are you mixing my arguments?
I argued that the lasers were definitely faster than bullets.
and that the flying Ultrons were chasing a jet
If an Ultron minion gets squashed by a car, then It’s likely their durability is pretty trash. That doesn’t disprove my arguments for their flight speed and projectiles. At least the feats relevent to this argument aren’t
Soooooo
He can still be perceived. I’m glad you agree, my friend :)
I didn’t mix it up. Why couldn’t they fly out of the way instead of being run over? If their flight speed is up to par that is, they would have flown out of there
Why would this place him at MCB level?
Bro come the fuck on. I literally stated this before
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Yeah when he was standing still, Gordo. They literally can’t keep up with their fight
I really can’t tell what scene you’re referring to exactly.
does this have literally anything to do with the lasers that Cap is repeatedly dodging here?
Dude, Ultron. Not Cap lmao
why would this Ultron be MCB level
you’re literally the one who posted the gif of him taking bullets
You are intentionally ignoring what we see on screen then
Because those normal ass people aren’t reacting at two guys they can’t perceive
It happened on Sokovia, and I only brought it up because you brought up the jet thing
if you want to bring up the blasters then that’s fine, Clint was able to react to one of those too. Are you gonna argue he’s that fast too now?
The Ultron scene was a response to what you said about how there is nothing we can say about Ultron beyond the fact that Cap can fight him.
it doesn’t mean anything in regards to MCB level. At best it’s just consistent with Cap’s sheild being able to break shit like Tony’s armor and Bucky’s arm.
They literally barged into the subway and were fighting infront of them.
just because civilians are watching people fight and screaming doesn’t mean they’re reacting to their attacks.
Are Superman and Zod sub-FTE just because people are gaping at them fighting?
The cut is weird because it immediately cuts to Clint already ducking and the blast already passing him by.
thats essentially how Endless Mike used to describe aim dodging
Well like I said, the original argument was that Cap can hit at MCB level with his shield
If you don’t think that, and I don’t think that. Then we’re in agreement here
But in that specific moment, they were able to see it. It’s not really a feat to use, at least not a good one
Yeah, but what Cap did was also aim dodging. There’s multiple different ways to tell if one is aim dodging or not and Cap honestly fits the bill for that too
See what? We don’t see from their perspective. They’re not reacting to their attacks. They’re literally a captive audience that can do nothing but scream and gawk. Again, you see this shit with Superman and most media.
We see him dodge while he’s on the air and the blasts are already heading towards him. That’s NOT aim dodging. If the projectile is already in motion and he moves out if the way, he dodged it
*shrug*
I don’t think that MCU Cap is MCB. At best he can defend from MCB attacks and pierce peope with similar durability to Ironman’s Mark 46 and a bullet proof Ultron.
if the Ironman Mark 46 is MCB, then sure. If not then its not.
Ok I really need to go to sleep. Need to wake up early tomorrow.
you guys argue. Good night.
you guys argue. Good night.
That what this argument was for! This whole thing could have been avoided lol
anyways that’s ok, good night
I have never been more confused about a series' power level until this thread.
Like all those To Aru threads were some shit but this is another level.