OBD Convo #17: Beyond Ultimate
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Everything i hear about this show is fucking cringe god damn. how do people read this?
I guess it's the same principle as like soap operas and dramas? Mix between a desire to see the characters make their way out of all this shit and improve, and a weird catharsis from watching people even more fucked up than themselves :zaru
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Why not
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He gets text a picture of his ex girlfriend in a bikini then plucks out a few tissues and imagines himself fucking her while moaning her name for two minutes. It was... an experience.
I didn't watch the show because it's not the kind of show I watch but holy shit the memes that came from that scene were glorious 
At least its heterosexual
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He goes from imagining himself fucking chicks to imagining other dudes fucking chicks he likes, so don't worry, it gets gay too.
That's just NTR and self-cucking yourself is worse then being "whoops gay moment engaged"
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Rank in order of best to worst & Thoughts on the Bleach Filler arcs and Movies
BLEACH Filler List Adventures Of The Karakura Superheroes 33, 50 The Bount Arc 64-108 Stolen Hogyoku Arc 128-137 Forest Of The Menos 147-149 The New Captain, Shusuke Amagai 168-189 Rurichiyo And Kenryu's Feud 204, 205 Exploits Of The Karakura-Raizer Team 213, 214 A...
www.fanverse.org It's not even remotely close to the worst arc in Bleach.
Bount arc is solidly in the middle, despite being the weakest (BARELY) of the filler arcs.
Kairya takes a steaming dumb on all the canon villains save Mayuri, Szayel and Tokinada, he's only mediocre when measured against those guys and the villains of the other filler arcs.
Also canon Kiganjo being different, does nothing to Maki's character nor the writing of the Bount arc. It simply means the Bount arc version of his old Captain is different from the canon version, same as canon Muramasa is not the same character as Zanaptkout Rebellion Muramasa.
Like it's fucking weird to try and hold a filler arc responsible for not accurately portraying characters and facts, that were not known when it was being written. Like how it shows the research division being 1000+ years old when TBTP showed Urahara only founded it just over 100 years before. They had no way of knowing that.
Oh and Go Koga and Yoshino are also among the best characters in the series, along with Maki.
Generally yeah but Ichigo vs Kariya final battle is one of the best fights in the series, GTFO.
Also Mayuri vs Sawatari was one of the worst fights in the arc, Sawatari's previous fight against Chad, Noba, Rangiku and Ururu was much better.
They weren't really annoying per se, as much as they simply didn't contribute much aside from pointing our heroes at where the Bounts were.
With that said, Noba at least put up a good performance against Sawatari.
Yes and the same could be said of literally every canon to an equal, if not even worse degree, what's your point?
You mean they decided to exploit the canon time gap between these two things, to put their filler arc somewhere where it could actually fit in the timeline? SAY IT ISN'T SO! THE HORROR!
You know, as opposed to putting the filler arc in the middle of an on-going canon arc like the Amagai and Zanpaktou Rebellion did. Which resulted in many people (namely me) skipping the out of frustration (and regretting it later when I actually watched them).
The Bount arc and Reigai Invasion did it right IMO, they found gaps in time where they could reasonably fit their stories in.
The nerve of the anime, trying to maintain some continuity at least to itself, given the mod souls didn't die and (unlike the other Filler arcs) there wasn't a direct acknowledgement of it being a what if.
The anime is allowed to keep to its own continuity, benefits of being an adaptation. If anything I would have liked to see more done with the anime ideas.
The Mod Souls were only used to give Grand Fisher more screen-time (not exactly a bad thing), an extra scene with kariya during the Hollow Ichigo fight and a couple references to them here and there.
FUCKING WOW! LOOK AT ALL THAT PADDING!
As opposed to the mini-arc with the Soul Reapers getting into shenanigans in the Living World, which is actually where most of the padding lies in that arc. Most of that stuff is still pretty good, I'm just saying it seems weird to specifically call out the Bount arc inclusions.
Yes it tells us that Bleach manga fans (the target audience of that game generally) have terrible taste and therefore they don't see it as profitable to include them.
It does not , as you're obviously trying to imply, say anything about the actual quality of the arc itself nor it's characters.
This I do agree with
The Mod soul test at the start should have only been about 1 - 2 episodes, not FIVE whole episodes before we even get started showing the Bounts.
It could easily have been cut down to 20 - 30 episodes on par with the length of the later filler arcs and still been as good, if not better.
Preach, though I'd add FKT to that.
Also a fair point.
Especially since they clearly tried to re-create some of that in the second half in Soul Society. By having the Captains who fought in that arc, being the ones who largely shit on the Bounts later on.
The Living world half felt more like it was trying to be its own thing which is largely why I prefer that half of the arc.
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