Well, I don't know what you use to measure a character, but at least I measure it by looking as much as possible to a "real" person in their respective situation, both are too stoic, although it is an attribute that is needed in These times, in their case, being in that state 99% of the time makes them look a bit plastic.
They're cool, of course, but I can't take them too seriously.
That's why I put Shinji high on the list because although he is a very easy character to hate and that nobody wants to be, he represents very well a person with true clinical depression but then he deflated in the Rebuild movies.
I'll be arriving a little late to Brawl since I need to go watch my cousin but it won't take me an hour to get there this time, only like 20-30 minutes max.