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Game Ranked OLF Christmas Mafia 2023 (Day 9)

@Ultra You're tagging me at 5am almost asking why I'm sidelining.

I'd rather vote Evans, I'll move to Luka at some point but I still have 6 hours. I'm mostly making a point, have been pretty much completely no sold on him despite the utter dross he's been posting.
You didn’t really get no sold, you just didn’t like the responses lol. There’s a difference
 
You could just ask me.

The two main wagons are still some way off reaching a lynch and there’s no consensus. To suggest we have time when there’s only one wagon that is fewer than L-11 with six hours to go is a bit silly.
Yeah but I'm being pressured into joining the one wagon that is L-11, I'm saying I'm going to be around to vote unless something happens so ???
 
What do you think to Grammaton reconciling that it’s a scummy wagon and that he’d be “shocked” if it went well, but leaving his vote on there anyway?
Tbh I’m not entirely sure what to make of gram so far. I initially went straight to towning him as I saw his role hint, and we also seemed to be agreeing with a lot of stuff but him deciding to vote Luka in the end really threw me for a loop as he seemed to be largely disagreeing with ratchet/ultra and agreeing with me before that

He explained it by saying he likes CPs posts the most out of everyone’s so he’s following but I don’t really see why that’s the case lol
 
The post you’re quoting of mine is completely taken out of context. And even then, I certainly didn’t say his role clears him.

CP said that the role sounded fake. My response was that a more fake sounding role from his (CP’s) POV would be more likely town, unless he thinks Fang either went rogue or didn’t have a team to assist him with a fake.

My reason for thinking Fang at the time was primarily down to his play, as I mentioned at the time.

this line of suspicion you have is pretty disingenuous.

There’s a large difference between stating that Fang’s role makes him auto town (as you claim I’ve said) vs stating that Fang’s role being “fake sounding” isn’t a very good line of enquiry and that a “fake sounding” role is more likely a point in his favout
1. No, you just pussyfooting cause you "heavily recommended that he be kept around". It's D1, saying you didn't clear him means nothing either. And to top it all off, that's not the point I was trying to make. My point was that your reasoning was shit, hollow, and can't hold its own beyond the most basic of questioning processes.
Feel free to explain what my motivation was for voting Alco then, since you can somehow read my thoughts.

Yes I made the second vote on Alco - left my vote there, and then a case later manifested on him from Odo and CP which I was happy to stick my name on as I didn’t like the cases on Luka and Aurelian.

Anything else????
That's not how this works? Me saying your reasons for voting Alco were stupid shouldn't be replied to with a "Well, you give me a better reason then"? You're literally using convenience as an excuse to not actually solve. Also, what irks me most here is that you wanted to push him to get thread out of fluff stage, and then you come back in several pages later saying you barely read the thread anyways and that feels like a shit post.

"We gotta stop joking around and play seriously"

"Oh, I read like 3 pages so idk what's happening"

Do you not see the problem with this?
Why do you think I'm a good lynch? Or rather, mislynch, since I am telling you I'm town. What changed here? What makes your position view Poyser's claims as valid to scum read me?
Calm down fangy, I was questioning him, not sussing you
Work

Need anything.
Chikky nuggies.

Cause fried food is the way to go this wonderful Hanukkah
 
I just don’t really get the Luka thing. The main point on him is that he immediately OMGUSed me after previously having me as his top town read which I feel is something you’re gonna see from town far, far more often than you’d see from scum

I agreed he started a little bit strangely and that’s fine enough for early suspicion but as the game evolved he looks nothing like he did last game as scum and didn’t react to pressure in even slightly the same way. If he really is scum and has that much variance in his game then fair play but I don’t see it

And I couldn’t even tell you why a single person is voting him other than ratchet and ultra

Well I could tell you why sky is voting him, but it’s the same reason she votes for everybody
 
I haven’t minded Gads posts this game but I’m treating that as a red flag. He seems way more focused and aggressive than I’ve seen him so far lmao
 
1. No, you just pussyfooting cause you "heavily recommended that he be kept around". It's D1, saying you didn't clear him means nothing either. And to top it all off, that's not the point I was trying to make. My point was that your reasoning was shit, hollow, and can't hold its own beyond the most basic of questioning processes.

2. That's not how this works? Me saying your reasons for voting Alco were stupid shouldn't be replied to with a "Well, you give me a better reason then"? You're literally using convenience as an excuse to not actually solve. Also, what irks me most here is that you wanted to push him to get thread out of fluff stage, and then you come back in several pages later saying you barely read the thread anyways and that feels like a shit post.

3. "We gotta stop joking around and play seriously"

"Oh, I read like 3 pages so idk what's happening"

Do you not see the problem with this?

Calm down fangy, I was questioning him, not sussing you

Chikky nuggies.

Cause fried food is the way to go this wonderful Hanukkah
1. I’m not pussy footing around. I said his ROLE shouldn’t be used to push him. I also said his ROLE shouldn’t be used to clear him. My reasoning for not pushing him was based primarily on PLAY.

2. You’ve asked my reasoning, I told you. You said it was bullshit. For it to be bullshit, it must be because you believe there to be a reason otherwise for voting him. I’ve said why I’ve done it and you don’t believe it, not sure what more there is to say.

3. It’s best for the game to be out of the fluff stage quickly, yes. I don’t see how me not having the time to contribute on Monday beyond a quick read on Luka somehow disproves that it’s a good idea to move the game on from the fluff stage.
 
I haven’t minded Gads posts this game but I’m treating that as a red flag. He seems way more focused and aggressive than I’ve seen him so far lmao
1. Joke around. Get lynched

2. Focus. Get lynched

Poyser you absolute twat

I'll spin your head like a dreidel cause that's how we have fun this wonderful Hanukkah season
 
1. Joke around. Get lynched

2. Focus. Get lynched

Poyser you absolute twat

I'll spin your head like a dreidel cause that's how we have fun this wonderful Hanukkah season
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not gonna scum read you for it. I’d much rather you play like this than whatever you’ve been doing the last few games so I don’t wanna discourage it. It’ll be something I’m keeping in mind tho, and I’ll be interested in how your positioning ends up
 
I just don’t really get the Luka thing. The main point on him is that he immediately OMGUSed me after previously having me as his top town read which I feel is something you’re gonna see from town far, far more often than you’d see from scum

I agreed he started a little bit strangely and that’s fine enough for early suspicion but as the game evolved he looks nothing like he did last game as scum and didn’t react to pressure in even slightly the same way. If he really is scum and has that much variance in his game then fair play but I don’t see it

And I couldn’t even tell you why a single person is voting him other than ratchet and ultra

Well I could tell you why sky is voting him, but it’s the same reason she votes for everybody
Cool, am not going insane
Correct imo

He's way more aggressive - I don't see Luka being as bitey as this as scum since it makes too many enemies

He's too (legitimately) guilt ridden about it so he tends to overcompensate by making everyone and their dog a town read by contrast.

Gives the vibe off to me he's not operating within a team frame work

I don't have a full profile of the guy and because of his inconsistency there's plenty I'm probably overlooking here, but thems the vibes
 
1. I’m not pussy footing around. I said his ROLE shouldn’t be used to push him. I also said his ROLE shouldn’t be used to clear him. My reasoning for not pushing him was based primarily on PLAY.

2. You’ve asked my reasoning, I told you. You said it was bullshit. For it to be bullshit, it must be because you believe there to be a reason otherwise for voting him. I’ve said why I’ve done it and you don’t believe it, not sure what more there is to say.

3. It’s best for the game to be out of the fluff stage quickly, yes. I don’t see how me not having the time to contribute on Monday beyond a quick read on Luka somehow disproves that it’s a good idea to move the game on from the fluff stage.
1. Yeah no. I don't buy the play angle. Not getting into my reads on him but no. You tried to insinuate that it was an absurd claim so it should be more believable. It was a shit take.

2. What? You could even be agreeing with my opinion with some bullshit I'd still wager that deserves to be called out. Your reasons for getting on Alco sucked and you did nothing to help me change my mind on that.

3. And that's kinda whack too. You see, games do tend to get out of fluff stage. They did here, no thanks to you even. Tryna seem like you're forcing that push while doing nothing actually helpful was shite. I mean, you can't. It was too early to be out of fluff. I don't buy this.
 
1. Yeah no. I don't buy the play angle. Not getting into my reads on him but no. You tried to insinuate that it was an absurd claim so it should be more believable. It was a shit take.

2. What? You could even be agreeing with my opinion with some bullshit I'd still wager that deserves to be called out. Your reasons for getting on Alco sucked and you did nothing to help me change my mind on that.

3. And that's kinda whack too. You see, games do tend to get out of fluff stage. They did here, no thanks to you even. Tryna seem like you're forcing that push while doing nothing actually helpful was shite. I mean, you can't. It was too early to be out of fluff. I don't buy this.
Happy Hanukkah too
 
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