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Game Ranked OLF Christmas Mafia 2023 (Day 9)

Maybe I'm just overly paranoid because of all the frame jobs I had to endure this game. But if your team mate is exactly Ekko you basically won because nobody aside from me makes that connection and nobody expects a mutual bus here.

So ya, if you're scum GG. A scum Gram, scum Ratchet and scum Magic same team is fucking overkill.
It would be

We have Gram as a stump likely coordinating by the scenes. However one important thing to consider is Ratchet checked out and I doubt he had the energy to truly participate; may've possibly left that to Gram.
Luka, T-pein, Ichi-be-gone were... well, quite the contrast.
50/59 sloppy scum play using traditional methods or wolves having the advantage to make contingency plans.

So if we go by the theoretical where Magic is part of the scum team, it's definitely overwhelming to a degree where it would have to be pure luck to roll scum yet again. Last few games and the game where I was his mate he couldn't be assed and got frustrated with my approach (same), with Ratchet also irate over the plays being made.

Basically, scum POV team maybe:
1. Ratchet checked out. When he's like this - as seen in the thread where it's apparent - he doesn't really engage. He gets passive and impatient enough to just avoid coaching frequently if the team is in uncoordinated where if a mate doesn't follow the plan, he feels it isn't worth the effort. That's what I've learned - probably not on the mark.
2. Gram might be behind the scenes, explains the frames as they've orcestrated Ral's lynch successfully through the mechanic fiasco. The masonry theory about it being T vs S has been officially disproven. X may have had additional info to share to us so perhaps the motive behind Dest's nightkill was proactive?
3. Magic is simultaneously in a good position and an absymal one. That's thing issue, I think. He's read as town and solving, ISOing, and before the floundering over his read on he was hunting with no agenda (I believe.)​
 
That's the issue with players like Magic. They can fake things like tone. You can't read them tonally. You have to look at their achievements. Magic got the SK lynched and refused to hammer Pein when it mattered.

So yes, well within scum range.
No, all aspects of a player needs to be involved when it comes to meta analysis. Judging by mechanics - as you mentioned can be used to frame. There's perhaps interference in the results.

Another point for this case on Ekko: his play this mirror's Luka's from WG quite a bit. I understand the initial statement of him getting legit annoyed over these games and needing a break. I'm assuming he will after this.
But what I don't like is his engagement so close to endgame.

Was he on Nibel's wagon?
 
No, all aspects of a player needs to be involved when it comes to meta analysis. Judging by mechanics - as you mentioned can be used to frame. There's perhaps interference in the results.

Another point for this case on Ekko: his play this mirror's Luka's from WG quite a bit. I understand the initial statement of him getting legit annoyed over these games and needing a break. I'm assuming he will after this.
But what I don't like is his engagement so close to endgame.

Was he on Nibel's wagon?
Nope. He was inactive until like D6.
 
His frustration is genuine, but it can also come from having his plan of winning ruined. We can't always assume frustration is a Town trait. It can also be scums getting frustrated. Personally I never fake emotions. When I'm happy I'm happy, when frustrated or upset I'm just that. It's NAI.
 
Anyway ta-ta

I am sure nothing will end badly here!
.....man
You're not the optimal route to go but I don't like tohe current contribution here

1. You can't resist trolling
2. You're probably deliberating on scum-siding while giving town room to possibly win if the odds appear in our favor.
3. You only gave us a minor explanation for your role. SK fucked us, I'm not sure if you will given your desperation to win. Seems you're neutral and waffling between votes to self-pres. Whatever.

After all, you said you want to survive from the getgo. Nothing is guaranteed from you yet.
 
His frustration is genuine, but it can also come from having his plan of winning ruined. We can't always assume frustration is a Town trait. It can also be scums getting frustrated. Personally I never fake emotions. When I'm happy I'm happy, when frustrated or upset I'm just that. It's NAI.
You literally ruined my plan except it was pro town which was stated by fuji and prof
 
His frustration is genuine, but it can also come from having his plan of winning ruined. We can't always assume frustration is a Town trait. It can also be scums getting frustrated. Personally I never fake emotions. When I'm happy I'm happy, when frustrated or upset I'm just that. It's NAI.
It's NAI for sure, I never said it wasn't

But when connecting his actions he sent and contributing a little more these phases, he still did coast by for a while. No idea why, that's what I'm trying to find out
 
.....man
You're not the optimal route to go but I don't like tohe current contribution here

1. You can't resist trolling
2. You're probably deliberating on scum-siding while giving town room to possibly win if the odds appear in our favor.
3. You only gave us a minor explanation for your role. SK fucked us, I'm not sure if you will given your desperation to win. Seems you're neutral and waffling between votes to self-pres. Whatever.

After all, you said you want to survive from the getgo. Nothing is guaranteed from you yet.
I have no horse in this race really. Fuji was town, Ratchet was scum. I don’t care to screw over either where I have nothing to gain.
 
.....man
You're not the optimal route to go but I don't like tohe current contribution here

1. You can't resist trolling
2. You're probably deliberating on scum-siding while giving town room to possibly win if the odds appear in our favor.
3. You only gave us a minor explanation for your role. SK fucked us, I'm not sure if you will given your desperation to win. Seems you're neutral and waffling between votes to self-pres. Whatever.

After all, you said you want to survive from the getgo. Nothing is guaranteed from you yet.
Clarifying: He's not on the chopping block, it's just annoying
 
I have no horse in this race really. Fuji was town, Ratchet was scum. I don’t care to screw over either where I have nothing to gain.
If I can't be around for whatever reason - which will try to be - then vote what town decides in my place

Be diligent and coordinate to unvote if it's close to a hammer in case there isn't agreement among us
 
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