Game Ranked OLF Christmas Mafia 2023 (Day 9)

[Grammaton]

Town was too strong for them to handle they couldn‘t win normally. It is what it is.

Easy win tbh, thank rugrat for making it competitive

 

[Sharter Holmes]

Vegan sandwiches again @Flower

 

[Flower]

I mean if he'd been honest I have him in my town core and it prevents that mislynch :/

You and me both. We‘re a good team, too. You notice things I didn‘t even remember like Ekko‘s claim. We might not be Town leaders, but supporters are just as important. Just trust me when I tell you Fuji is Town.

 

[Flower]

Vegan sandwiches again @Flower

Damn. What‘s the topping on the left?

 

[Sharter Holmes]

Damn. What‘s the topping on the left?

Coriander/Mint on the left, Tamarind on the right, Spicy(ish) chickpea powder on the patty

 

[Sharter Holmes]

Also, scum team who?

 

[Sharter Holmes]

I promise to try harder if y'all stop posting faster than I can read I promise

 

[Poyser]

I mean if he'd been honest I have him in my town core and it prevents that mislynch :/

He was honest in the thread lol that’s how he explained it

Don’t blame anyone for lynching him tho, I would have too

 

[RDK]

Want to say I don't think scums complaints were necessarily over the line.

I thought they asked fair questions which I'd also be asking. I just didn't care for the implication that I was townsiding and threatening to stop playing properly (granted this never actually happened).

I think I just got overwhelmed by the sheer volume of discontent.

Ichigo spent more time lobbying for Flower to be modkilled than he did playing the game while he was alive for example.

Overall I think scum probably deserved to win. They had low numbers percentage wise and did just enough to cross the line.

Rugrat played very well. Scum didn't even know he was the SK until very late.

 

[Rugrat]

I think @Gadministraitor had a great case on me too fwiw. I was quite impressed by it

 

[Flower]

Ichigo spent more time lobbying for Flower to be modkilled than he did playing the game while he was alive for example.

Yeah, shit like this disgusts me. The guy fucked up with his usage, outed himself and 2 team mates and got nothing better to do than ask for me to get modkilled when I played by the rules.

Also what Ekko did with his PR should have been a modkill. Come on now. Else there‘s no complaints. Just that what he did was shit.

 

[Rugrat]

1. Sky
2. Flower
6. Dr. Watson
16. Ekkologix
20. Fujishiro
69. Rugrat


Part 1 - The people who I won’t link

Looking at the players left. Magic is the commuter, this is often a scum fake. However it’s a constant in all three of Haza’s last three games - two of which were Xmas: Eastenders (it was town and indeed my janitored fake), Xmas 2022 Mafia it appeared, Xmas 2021 Mafia it appeared. Unfortunately it’s a lousy way to confirm someone, but he’s only shown up on D7. Hey ho.

Lethal is the sort of player to fake claim Miller but scum have full fakes, so he absolutely wouldn’t this game.

Orca is the vig

The Professor has made no attempt whatsoever to scum hunt or even look like he’s helping. He is only scum/SK if it’s a gambit with Watson and even then he’d surely try and look town

Tweet was hard defended by Odo and fits with basically everyone. I’m not going to bother linking him to a pair, as it could be anybody.

The X is presumably town. He’s made zero attempt to read back and isn’t going to get that Ral clown lynched so bullishly as mafia.

The links

Flower

Flower - Rugrat

She thinks I’m the SK because simulataneously I was somehow caught by scum Odo and I presumably shot him, but for ??? he didn’t come in the thread and get me put away when I was cruising low in PoE and his teammates were getting rawdogged. Objectively, if we were a scum pair - we could both have joined forces to keep TPein alive and just gone for Ral and cruised to a in. With our influence in the thread as both widely town read, we could have just buddied and it would be over for town. Realistically, the game is over if we are scum together. She is also the governor. This is either a fake or she is simply town

Flower - Watson

The main proponents on the Rugrat is SK wagon. Do they believe it, idk? Misguided? Obvs. But realistically for them to both be scum aligned, I’d expect them to divide their targets or go for me more decisively THIS PHASE - whether that is their genuinely belief or not. I don’t think this is a likely pairing, however.

Flower - Sky

The most plausible pairing of Flower I feel. Evans felt at one point that the two were aligned. He is dead. Could they be aligned? It’s Flower’s most feasible link.

Flower - Ekko

Flower has been keen to get rid of Ekko for large parts of the game including this phase. Scum’s interest is sticking together, and she wouldn’t get any more credit for another scum flip which she instigated - since she has enough credit in the bank.

Flower - Fuji

Not noticed Fuji, but it would mark a scum pairing with two roles (since Fuji is vanilla) that they couldn’t use/claim, so I think this is unlikely.

VERDICT - Unlikely to be mafia unless it’s with Skybox

Watson

Watson - Rugrat

Similar story as to why Rugrat and Flower are not scum. Both town read and active, would make sense to work in cahoots and then steam roll the thread. There would be the Flower obstacle, but Evans and others have been open to lynching her - so no reason not to ramp the pressure on Flower. Perhaps even an angle to kill Evans (if we are a scum pairing) when Flower uses her governor shot to double frame her. There was the incident over the Magic read. Cynics could point to this as distancing as no vote was made by either party. Watson did also suggest equity in myself and Ral, however Ral flipped town - but she also thought Ral was town….. moving on lol.

Watson - Flower
The main proponents on the Rugrat is SK wagon. Do they believe it, idk? Misguided? Obvs. But realistically for them to both be scum aligned, I’d expect them to divide their targets or go for me more decisively THIS PHASE - whether that is their genuinely belief or not. I don’t think this is a likely pairing, however.

Watson - Sky

I haven’t noticed either of them mention each other (maybe they did, I’m tired). Not sure what Watson’s angle is today but Sky fancies Ekko/Tweet and has suggested me to be the SK. However, Sky also mentioned that she did not like broad FOS from the Watson complaints on the Ral lynch albeit not directly to Watson. A fair gripe from Sky. These two could be aligned. PLEASE ALERT TO ANY INTERACTION BETWEEN THE TWO.

Watson - Fuji

I haven’t noticed much of Watson and Fuji, but Fuji suggested Watson was a dark horse as scum (though he preferred other targets). This didn’t sound like suspicion and it wasn’t really exoneration. That said; it is probably the common feeling amongst the thread so I wouldn’t read into it.

Watson - Ekko

???? Don’t know. Off to bed

VERDICT - if Watson is scum, it is with either Skybox or Fuji.

Would have been nice to finished these without being tunnelled, or even seen them put to any use being the TOWN MVP. If these three alone were followed, town would have won.

 

[RDK]

Yeah, shit like this disgusts me. The guy fucked up with his usage, outed himself and 2 team mates and got nothing better to do than ask for me to get modkilled when I played by the rules.

Also what Ekko did with his PR should have been a modkill. Come on now. Else there‘s no complaints. Just that what he did was shit.

This is just my point though. If it wasn't one thing it was another lol

 

[T-Pein™]

But there are things like pushing Pein over Ral

And does it make sense I didn't lynch Ral and instead got myself lynched instead?

 

[Flower]

This is just my point though. If it wasn't one thing it was another lol

Yeah, but most their complaints aren‘t even justified. You didn‘t count the Luka vote, but Gad‘s for the Poyser Execute when it was the same format, so technically Poyser would have never gotten axed either yet he did and even couldn‘t sub back in anymore. They had so many things in their favour, so there simply was no reason for them to cry. I think most things were fine even, just that Ekko should have been modkilled. Watson‘s claim being formatted like this is a non factor, too. Literally could have been copied from one of the Role flips in the thread and made up. If they can‘t frame her cuz she was too Townie that‘s on them kek.

 

[Rugrat]

Would have been nice to finished these without being tunnelled, or even seen them put to any use being the TOWN MVP. If these three alone were followed, town would have won.

Literally a GOAT solve.

Fuji, myself and Sky were dead. Watson had to be reconciled as town since Fuji and Sky were dead. Flower too. I said Magic, Orca and Lethal were certain town.

was this looked in depth analysis from town’s best player looked at? :

No I got lynched in part by the vig who accused not town siding enough despite doing a hell of a lot more for twin than him lol.

 

[Flower]

And does it make sense I didn't lynch Ral and instead got myself lynched instead?

Yeah? You didn‘t stand a chance in our argument. I smoked you like a pack of cigs.

 

[Rugrat]

I even got lynched by someone for NOT providing pairs who then didn’t provide them :

 

[Grammaton]

Yeah, but most their complaints aren‘t even justified. You didn‘t count the Luka vote, but Gad‘s for the Poyser Execute when it was the same format, so technically Poyser would have never gotten axed either yet he did and even couldn‘t sub back in anymore. They had so many things in their favour, so there simply was no reason for them to cry. I think most things were fine even, just that Ekko should have been modkilled. Watson‘s claim being formatted like this is a non factor, too. Literally could have been copied from one of the Role flips in the thread and made up. If they can‘t frame her cuz she was too Townie that‘s on them kek.

The host doing something right once and wrong once isn’t evidence of it being equal and fair, jfc

You lynched scum 2 out 9 day phases, let’s please drop the delusion that town were anything other than HORRIBLE this game

 

[Rugrat]

@Flower

Town didn’t deserve to win. You guys lynched mafia two days of nine (and one was with info). Those are terrible numbers. Ratchet being lynched on D4 instead of D3 doesn’t change that (even if you don’t like his tactics). Fwiw Nibel could be recruited so it’s probably better we did lynch him and then Ratchet.

You ethering TPein or even that you did play very well for parts in general doesn’t mean that town weren’t outplayed.

For instance, I listed Magic as one of the few good players earlier; he didn’t lynch any mafia, he lynched me on a completely erroneous read and was then mislynched himself for his silly read on me with which he had an incorrect legacy solve. That says it all really.

I think you (individually) played excellent until the closing phases and lost. Town were shit.

I shit on Ekko for cheating, but he still came up with a fantastic gamble to get Nibel lynched and I don’t rate Tweet’s style of play but he has a fair point that we’ve seen worse coasters who don’t succeed. The vig could have shot him and he could’ve been lynched otherwise.