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Game Ranked OLF Christmas Mafia 2023 (Day 9)

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Sky said:
He was definitely more active early on, at the point in the thread when Luka established that read
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Apparently Luka is frozen in time on page 6, he is omgusing Ultra-Poyser, and Ratchet in his spare time, so yeah, I believe that he didnt even looked over Polar`s posts.
 
Hard to explain, but I'm pretty sure Ratchet is scum. An ISO shows him going for low hanging fruit with Polar & Sky and now he's guns blazing on Luka and CP put it pretty well here:

Tempest said:
I also have to say that I wouldn't be surprised if Ratchet and Luka are teamed again. Ratchet jumped on Luka as soon as it was pointed out that he flipped his poyser read on a dime. Last game Ratchet mostly pushed his teammates and I could see him wanting to mostly town-side again here, especially if he's drawn scum for the third time in a row. Ultra came to it much more organically. But actually most of Ratchet's focus has been shading poyser's reason for town reading Luka which comes off as trying to make him look bad on a Luka scum flip to set up a poyser mislynch d2. Maybe he's on to something and poyser is protecting his teammate but I don't think poyser's progression fits that theory super comfortably

In other words I think Ultra/Ratchet are right but I think Ratchet is a little too sure that he's right and is trying to set up poyser for a fall here
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The confidence Ratchet has in his Luka push is a bit much and he can pocket Ultra with the same wagon.

Ratchet said:
Because I don't see any reason to base my reads off of historical trends that have nothing to do with this game. I didn't play the game T-Pein was scum in so I haven't had previous of "catching" him, and I'm more interested in lynching Polar than I am T-Pein because from Polar I see mailed in, lazy reasoning, and strongly disliked his opening where he stuck his vote on the Indie and appealed to fear over them. I agree with your points on T-Pein, so happy to support that, but if I'm asked where my first choice would be, it wouldn't be that. Basically, as per Ekko's question, if I'm calling my own lynch I'm choosing Polar. Would I vote T-Pein if he became a viable wagon and Luka was cleared - probably yes. I wouldn't be starting the push, though.
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Also this post here is an interesting point to be making - historical trends aren't something Ratchet puts any stock in and won't use it to join a T-Pein wagon.

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Ratchet said:
Have you actually got anything to suggest that from a meta perspective? I've seen him he scum about two times now, and every time he leans into this stuff and acknowledges it. Case in point, in the game I saw him as scum before yours he kept talking about how scummy his activity levels were and that his method of catching up was scum-sided. I don't agree with your impression of his scum game at all.
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He's using meta and "historical trends" here as a reason to challenge Poysers read on Luka and Poyser not liking Ratchets vote on Luka.
 
I don't think I've played with Poyser before except for that one time he got me lynched cause OP told him to but, Boobies asked him a question regarding why he didn't sus CP for the same reason he sussed Boobies when they both said the same thing (about something I forgot). It was a valid question, Poyser replied with an idk, and Boobies never bothered to follow up. I thought that was a little slippery of him.


The only thing that should be slippery is my pot full of oil that I'm using to make delicious hanukkah food
 
Gadministraitor said:
I don't think I've played with Poyser before except for that one time he got me lynched cause OP told him to but, Boobies asked him a question regarding why he didn't sus CP for the same reason he sussed Boobies when they both said the same thing (about something I forgot). It was a valid question, Poyser replied with an idk, and Boobies never bothered to follow up. I thought that was a little slippery of him.


The only thing that should be slippery is my pot full of oil that I'm using to make delicious hanukkah food
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ultra's hands are especially slippery this game in general
 
I've read the game too fast to get a read on Ratchet so can someone sum it up for me cause I'm about to head to bed and can't ISO until tomorrow

I hope my dreams shall be full of nothing but the glory of Hanukkah
 
Evans said:
Why is Luka's meta relevant and not T-Peins when it comes to scum reads?
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I agree with the T-Pein read though? Also they're different players with different styles so why would you equivocate them?
Evans said:
Hard to explain, but I'm pretty sure Ratchet is scum. An ISO shows him going for low hanging fruit with Polar & Sky and now he's guns blazing on Luka and CP put it pretty well here:



The confidence Ratchet has in his Luka push is a bit much and he can pocket Ultra with the same wagon.



Also this post here is an interesting point to be making - historical trends aren't something Ratchet puts any stock in and won't use it to join a T-Pein wagon.

Yet...


He's using meta and "historical trends" here as a reason to challenge Poysers read on Luka and Poyser not liking Ratchets vote on Luka.
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This is awful.

Firstly, "low hanging fruit" doesn't mean they're not scum, and given I went at Poyser too it's not even accurate.

The historical trends point is completely misrepresenting what I said - for Luka I was citing his meta, which is perfectly valid. In regards to CP, I was dismissing the idea that Polar gets pushed and ends up being town, because it has no relevance to this game.

You're clearly just picking things to argue, you go to lean scum.
 
Gadministraitor said:
I don't think I've played with Poyser before except for that one time he got me lynched cause OP told him to but, Boobies asked him a question regarding why he didn't sus CP for the same reason he sussed Boobies when they both said the same thing (about something I forgot). It was a valid question, Poyser replied with an idk, and Boobies never bothered to follow up. I thought that was a little slippery of him.


The only thing that should be slippery is my pot full of oil that I'm using to make delicious hanukkah food
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You know what Poyser asked me? He said, "what are your updated thoughts on Luka?" Guess what's been the subject matter of 90% of my posts

You are the greasiest vegan scoundrel to ever play this game. Don't cry oy gevalt when I put you in the dirt again
 
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