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Game Ranked OLF Christmas Mafia 2023 (Day 9)

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Grammaton said:
Unless you’re claiming like, oracle or something
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Aurelian said:
Bingo
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Well, Aurelian`s read back feels better than some slots here, and i like his read list, idk about Alco, seems confident in his read on Aurelian, this is all I get from his iso.
Btw @Ultra it seems that you have some experience with Heinsenblaine, they literally disappeared into eather when they got some pressure on em, do you think that this is a good lead? I mean, they dissapears like this as scum/town?
heisenblaine said:
Honestly, not yet. There's a lot going on so I haven't been able to fully plant down my feet at any thoughts. Probably will give this a re-read in a bit and do some note taking
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Ultra said:
Huh

This and your last post could not be more stereotypically scummy.

This ain't your first rodeo homie. Notes? Play the game poindexter.
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heisenblaine said:
Well, when there's a shitload of people I know nothing about, maybe I should note how people play
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Caldust said:
i think Aurelian is probably town here, for similar reasons I believed BPD was town - as he (from a brief read has a lot of apathy, that only really is noticeable for forlorn town).

The fact that he believes his role is an absolute reason for not lynching him does reconcile with town play. He simply can’t see any reconciliation that his play could be scum. As mafia, you’re probably gonna be looking for common ground with people you’re trying to persuade to agree with you - so I think it would be easier to get him to concede his play is scummy. If you couple all the play based reasons with a very potent role, which he knows he can’t do any hero BS with - I’d strongly favour keeping him around.

Poyser is the chief driver of the wagon and him saying he thinks the first four players on the wagon are town is useful to know.
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think I'm leaning this way too
 
Sky said:
Gonna shamelessly FLAVOUR SPEC around Aurelian's claim

The scum team is Santas right? They'd make flavourful sense as gift givers, and therefore surely no townie would claim a role that provides items. So how would an item detecting role benefit town in any way, other than to confirm/deconfirm the indie?
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Don't like this
 
Bachi said:
Well, Aurelian`s read back feels better than some slots here, and i like his read list, idk about Alco, seems confident in his read on Aurelian, this is all I get from his iso.
Btw @Ultra it seems that you have some experience with Heinsenblaine, they literally disappeared into eather when they got some pressure on em, do you think that this is a good lead? I mean, they dissapears like this as scum/town?
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I think he is scum and melted into a puddle yeah
 
Sky said:
As in it's a bad idea?
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More like it's confirmation bias and this serves as a justification for your read imho
It's just reaffirming a scum!Aurelian scenario, not proving it's a scum role.

We have no way of knowing its utility and the truth of his claim unless we extend an olive branch to him. I encourage this instead.
He either has to:
1. Go with his original plan by clarifying Prof's alignment to see whether it's a hostile slot and getting some more info that's beneficial to solving (doesn't matter if it's a weak role, info is info - we're walking in blind, scum is not) and to catch people in contradictions or perhaps concealing info
2. We give him two nights for him to use the ability and nothing more.

I already talked about why I am not a huge fan of #2 and would prefer he simply use his shot. If he doesn't reveal info, he's either going to be used as LHF or mislynched as a result which is a negative for town.

Basically we don't know what this is
But we have the option to see what it is, let's take it
 
@Grammaton, I haven't forgotten about you. I've been skimming through and analyzing the posts of others. It's a bit challenging, especially with some inactive players still in the mix and the fast pace of this game so far. These are minor concerns, but if you can give me a bit more time, I'll make sure to provide thoughtful reflections.

Tempest said:
that's nice but what have you done this game
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Let's see... initially voted to lynch @Gadministraitor, switched my vote to @Dr_Professor83, and then having @Sky immediately jump at my reads and vote change just heightened my suspicions.

Caldust said:
The fact that he believes his role is an absolute reason for not lynching him does reconcile with town play. He simply can’t see any reconciliation that his play could be scum. As mafia, you’re probably gonna be looking for common ground with people you’re trying to persuade to agree with you - so I think it would be easier to get him to concede his play is scummy.
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I see your point and appreciate the analysis. You look to have a keen eye for these things. I've been watching @Aurelian too, and your take makes sense. The role consideration is something I hadn't fully thought about.

In the grand scheme, I'm leaning toward your perspective on this. Btw, have you noticed any other players who might be worth a closer look? Curious to hear your take on the broader picture.
 
@Dr. Watson was voting Luka earlier, would rather lynch Evans which is why I'm voting him, read on Luka hasn't changed.

Reading over Fang I think he does look pretty tame to be honest. Not really seeing the town read, I do think as scum he pro ably doesn't go out of his way to get Craig to read him but eh I don't love his slot. Wouldn't be my first or even third choice for the lynch though.
 
Ratchet said:
look if you haven't been following the conversation then just go read up and spare me this, otherwise why are you even offering your input from a position of clear ignorance?

I haven't said "meta should apply to Luka and not T-Pein". The historical trend that I dismissed pertained to Polar Bear, and it was him being pressured a lot as town, Evans has brought that up as if it has anything to do with an entirely independent read. It's complete nonsense, you lose points for even pretending otherwise for me too.
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ratchet coming off a bit tilted this game
 
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