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My thoughts LMK's God Tiers and cosmology said:After finishing Revenge of the Spider Queen, I'm now thinking that the Samahdi Fire could actually be a multiverse level threat.
We get clear confirmation that the Celestial Realm is in another dimension.
Red Sun: "However, I'll need supplies. And the only place to get them is..."
MK: "Space?"
Red Sun: "NO, YOU NOODLE-BRAIN! THE CELESTIAL REALM!"
In the next scene, Red Sun clearly articulates that they are traveling across dimensions.
Tang: So... How, exactly, does this work?
Red Sun: Ugh! f I tried to explain mystical, interdimensional travel to a bunch of peasants, it'd melt your brains!
The Celestial Realm is absolutely fucking full of stars, including its own sun.
Red Sun confirmed that the Samadhi Fire has enough power to nuke the physical universe.
"The Samadhi Fire is more than an unextinguishable flame, it's an interdimensional weapon with the power to burn through the very fabric of reality!"
"There was a chance that I could have exploded and destroyed the whole universe!?"
"Yes. That was a possibility."
And LBD said that she was going to burn away the physical universe, the Celestial Realm, and "beyond". In her vision, she literally whites-out all of creation and starts anew. That's at least two dimensions of cosmic scale being deleted, and LBD also seems to think she has the power to replace what she's destroying.
DBK, Wukong, and Ne Zah were capable of prolonged contact with 1/3 of the Samadhi Fire during the sealing process. And the first thing MK does when regaining his powers at the end of Season 2, is to no-sell LBD's cosmos-erasing attack with his mech. A Power of Friendship zenkai then let's him delete LBD altogether.
It's possible that none of this is beyond the max power of Sun Wukong. He's stronger than Ne Zah and Azure Lion. Both of whom have feats comparable to contending with Samadhi Fire, beyond actually doing so.
If peak MK = peak Wukong, then it's actually impossible for any of this to beyond peak Wukong. We haven't seen peak MK since the first movie, his powers are still sealed from Season 1.
LBD tried to brag that she was now strong enough to 1v1 Wukong, only to get fucking folded; barely managing a W via last minute mental hax. And even just holding Wukong against his will drained her power severely; to the point she was unable to hold him indefinitely.
Azure Lion was able to best a dying Jade Emperor, and even controlled his power to some minor extent; temporarily forcing the realms back together after the JE's death shattered them. And Ne Zah's petals were able to temporarily seal the Jade Emperor's power once it had burned its way out of Azure Lion.
Speaking of the JE, probably worth noting that his palace seems to also be an alternate dimension full of stars (and at least one celestial body I didn't quite recognize). All of which goes black upon his death.
The death of the Jade Emperor rips through his thrown room into the Celestial Realm proper, and further out into the mortal plane. Azure and his crew are point-blank for the blast, and Azure himself is able to temporarily house and (almost) control that power.
I might be crazy, but I think these cracks in reality actually prove the existence of another star-filled plane beyond both the Celestial Realm and the Jade Emperor's palace. No matter which dimension you are in, there is a realm of stars beyond the cracks. One that doesn't seem to be cracking.
That realm could be the "beyond" that LBD was talking about when envisioning her plans for cosmic erasure. Like I mentioned, her flashback literally shows everything turning white. Gives a very World's Funnest vibe. If that's the case, then the Samadhi Fire would remain the most powerful thing in the show thus far. And this whole arc is basically just MK jobbing long enough to justify the need for his Monkey Mode zenkai. Which, honestly, I'm not even mad about. That shit was sick.
Well...it's a 1v1. Somebody is going to solo.Omegamon solos
Do you have any stats for Omegamon.
That's Omegamon X-antibody Bob.he can restart the universe and destroy it
with his move alt delete
You can'twas gonna say if this is just Adventure then MK has some pretty good feats here. Omnimon being above universe level would wholly depend on scaling him and Diaboromon to Apocalymon’s suicidal big bang and it seems iffy whether you can do that
I mean Alphamon and Jesmon GX do but I'm not sure if all of them do, at least not in their base forms anyway.afaik peak Royal Knights have ridiculous bullshit megaversal nonsense but just the Adventure one wouldn’t
Omnimon being above universe level would wholly depend on scaling him and Diaboromon to Apocalymon’s suicidal big bang and it seems iffy whether you can do that
You can't
Said attack would have killed all the Chosen Children and their Digimon (including WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon) instantly had the Digivices not intervened, something Diablomon couldn't achieve spamming thousands of his strongest attacks at them.
Frankly it's questionable is anything short of BelialVamdemon at his most amped legitimately scales to Apocalymon given he has a similar feat (at least in terms of range anyway).
Even Omegamon and Armagemon are questionable.
Hmm. Seems like a clean W for Wukong.Liberal interpetation of Apocylamon's profile would likely get him to universal(+), but the animated version outside of the suicide attack which killed him doesn't really match up to that level at all
Does nobody scale to his output?That was MaloMyotismon/BelialVamdemon, and uhhhhh
his durability kinnnnnnda doesn't match his DC due to his ridiculous weakness
NopeDoes nobody scale to his output?
He EASILY overpowers them WHILE simultaneously covering both worlds in darkness, like he's only using a fraction of his power against them while he is focusing on his main goal. Their attacks also do nothing to him at this point.No beam clashes or anything?