One Piece Tier/Feat/Canon/Toei Discussion Thread Part 3: Road to star level

[Syla]

I mean all together. I believe all Yonkou and Admirals are about the same anyways.

The highest calcs Whitebeard heard, were ironically matches and stopped by Aokiji and Akainu.

People have this weird obsession over Old Beard being the strongest. And it's just....weird?

It's mostly due to the anime, where it's potrayed as whitebeard not being able to use his full strength yet mopping akainu who was the strongest admiral and making akainu look scared.

Also in the anime whitebeard doesn't lose half of his face which skews perception on him.

 

[Solar Sailor]

Old Whitebeard was half of the reason Marineford was so awesome, and debatably got the best feats in the verse (got One Piece upgraded several times)

so people conflating that, with the fact that he was the rival to Roger in his prime?

it makes sense to me, although its not correct

 

[Solar Sailor]

It's mostly due to the anime, where it's potrayed as whitebeard not being able to use his full strength yet mopping akainu who was the strongest admiral and making akainu look scared.

Also in the anime whitebeard doesn't lose half of his face which skews perception on him.

I’d argue Akainu looks more impressive in the anime.

Whitebeard beat Akainu with two hits in the Manga, Akainu kept up better in the Anime imo

 

[Solar Sailor]

And while tearing half of Whitebeard’s face LOOKS more inpressive, I’m pretty sure pumping Whitebeard’s guts with Lava like in the anime is alot more impressive.

 

[MrBopo]

I mean all together. I believe all Yonkou and Admirals are about the same anyways.

The highest calcs Whitebeard heard, were ironically matches and stopped by Aokiji and Akainu.

People have this weird obsession over Old Beard being the strongest. And it's just....weird?

Old beard is often portrayed as the strongest pirate. It's understandable that people would believe that

 

[Syla]

I’d argue Akainu looks more impressive in the anime.

Whitebeard beat Akainu with two hits in the Manga, Akainu kept up better in the Anime imo

I'd argue the general Anime watcher doesn't look too deep other than what looks impressive. Ofc as you said WB did all these impressive feats.

And WB running down Akainu once he got mad in the anime and squished him like a bug despite being sick also coupled with the fact that WB wasn't taken down by Akainu but BB in a cheap way.

All these small factors basically make anime viewers think Sickbeard > Akainu and Healthy WB >>>>>>> Admiral. Especially when Ace and Aoikiji are stalemating with their powers.

 

[Syla]

 

[OtherGalaxy]

@B Rabbit @OtherGalaxy @El Hermano

How would you guys feel if Kuma died in reverie and Vivi is the one that eats Kuma’s devilfruit?

hard to imagine vivi with a fruit for me tbh
wouldnt mind kuma dying though

 

[MrBopo]

hard to imagine vivi with a fruit for me tbh
wouldnt mind kuma dying though

Technically he is already dead, the personality/person that is Kuma is no more

 

[OtherGalaxy]

that's true

honestly am I alone in that I hated how the reverie "ended"
it really felt like a waste of an arc and all the revolutionaries besides Karasu were super lame

 

[MrBopo]

that's true

honestly am I alone in that I hated how the reverie "ended"
it really felt like a waste of an arc and all the revolutionaries besides Karasu were super lame

Reverie was rushed, I'm sure if Oda made it a full arc then it would be more fleshed out. It's funny Oda said he wants to end One piece as soon as possible but also makes his arcs alot longer because of all the ideas he gets

 

[Syla]

Reverie was rushed, I'm sure if Oda made it a full arc then it would be more fleshed out. It's funny Oda said he wants to end One piece as soon as possible but also makes his arcs alot longer because of all the ideas he gets

Inevitable with popularity. Lord D. Coast was supposed to be a top tier in biting strength.

 

[MrBopo]

Inevitable with popularity. Lord D. Coast was supposed to be a top tier in biting strength.

I disagree on the popularity that's just how Oda roles.

"When I intend to finish an arc within 30 chapters, it ends up 90 chapters being necessary." [1]

 

[Syla]

I disagree on the popularity that's just how Oda roles.

Plays a big factor or he'd get kicked to the curb like kubo did, despite him not finishing bleach as he wanted

 

[MrBopo]

Plays a big factor or he'd get kicked to the curb like kubo did, despite him not finishing bleach as he wanted

It's an enabler that allows Oda to expand more on his work but Oda isn't dragging out his series because of the popularity

 

[Syla]

It's an enabler that allows Oda to expand more on his work but Oda isn't dragging out his series because of the popularity

That's not something neither of us can say for certainty. I'm sure it's not the main reason but it is part of the reason.

I'm sure no author would like to put out work on a weekly basis because of how draining that is but the japanese have different work ethics.

 

[El Hermano]

Kaido is an oni which isn't a human

That's probably a good bet, but I don't recall it ever being outright confirmed.

 

[Solar Sailor]

That's probably a good bet, but I don't recall it ever being outright confirmed.

Didn’t Kaido literally say so himself?

 

[El Hermano]

Didn’t Kaido literally say so himself?

I don't recall that.

 

[Solar Sailor]

I don't recall that.

While he was beating Yamato to near death