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One Piece Tier/Feat/Canon/Toei Discussion thread: Toon Level feats only please.
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See I debate that too are devil fruit users just strong guys with swords or swordsman with fruit I usually think the former
The more I think about it, the more I fall in line that Zoro, Ryuma, Mihawk, Oden and Vista are the only “real” swordsmen, unless there are other characters
because you even see Roger with a Sword. But you don’t usually consider him a swordsman
Yea the 5 get singled out for their swordsmenship it makes sense
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Good chapter. That being said - albeit it does seem to have been planned, it kinda sucks we get another fakeout death. To top it off, the WG once again demonstrated unparalleled incompetence when the Marines who've been instructed to burn it all to cinders just ignore a massive pile of books that were thrown into a lake(not suspicious at all)while they were burning the place down.
Yeah, I get it, the WG couldn't tell them the real reason why the place was being burned down, but it would have been a heck of a lot more cautious to risk some grunts whose voices have no impact being exposed to the materials within those books and make them disappear, claiming "Ohara cooperators/supporters" were responsible for their deaths(further hurting Ohara's rep) rather than risk leaving everything there for others to find.
Maybe Aokiji could have frozen the lake and made a shitty excuse as to why, knowing full well none of the grunts under his command would question his decision. Whether he is truly one of the good guys or has his own agenda.
Onto VS related discussion: That warp ability is encouraging. Hopefully, he has some time and space bending tech that could be used offensively.
Yeah, I get it, the WG couldn't tell them the real reason why the place was being burned down, but it would have been a heck of a lot more cautious to risk some grunts whose voices have no impact being exposed to the materials within those books and make them disappear, claiming "Ohara cooperators/supporters" were responsible for their deaths(further hurting Ohara's rep) rather than risk leaving everything there for others to find.
Maybe Aokiji could have frozen the lake and made a shitty excuse as to why, knowing full well none of the grunts under his command would question his decision. Whether he is truly one of the good guys or has his own agenda.
Onto VS related discussion: That warp ability is encouraging. Hopefully, he has some time and space bending tech that could be used offensively.
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This is becoming more and more clear that Aokiji is a good guy masquerading as a bad guy.
There's a reason why Garp vouched for Aoikiji to be fleet admiral.
Aoikiji was under Garp at some point iirc so he has to be a good marine. He's also friends with Smoker who is a good marine.
yeah
sparing saul is far more in character for him
always has been
sparing saul is far more in character for him
always has been
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It is, at least as we know him now. But it still removes a big part of Robin's tragedy. Saul surviving makes their final iconic, gut-wrenching interaction much less impactful. I'm pretty on the fence on this one, tbh.
That being said, Saul surviving doesn't bother me anywhere near the sheer incompetence of the WG. The excuse of "it was led by Spandam's mentally handicapped father" doesn't hold any water, because they did entrust him with such a huge task and they should've known full well the guy's an absolute fucking trogolodyte.
completely agree with both points
as soon as I read Enies Lobby I thought Saul dying made no sense, but that's also the major emotional beat of the flashback
him living undercuts that a lot but also makes more sense for Aokiji
but yeah the books thing makes no sense considering how thorough the WG is in every other situation but this despite this being every bit as important as what happened in Lulusia or God Valley
kidd will get mickey mousewashed and so will barto trust the plan
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I mean, teaming-up with a bunch of incredibly evil criminals who outright enjoy torturing, and perhaps even raping their enemies is pretty morally grey.
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I've heard Morj(yes, I know, roll your eyes)making a pretty good point regarding why Ohara didn't get the Lulusia treatment - The WG didn't want to erase it from history, but rather wanted to make an example out of them in hopes of dettering any other rebelions and/or people seeking the truth of what took place during the void century. Albeit, their actions ended up actually sparking the biggest rebelion ever, lol. But that does make sense because One Piece is also about unyielding will that cannot be subjugated nor erased by any weapon.
ah thats a fair point, they did definitely want to make sure nobody researched the void century again
I could have sworn it was Sengoku, but yeah he was Garp’s protégé. although you could say he was just a big fan.