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but again tho, if Ali and Alexis are 2-shot invests i think we should let them live one more day to get their final shot off. After that we can consider if they're town or not.

Cuz atm from our invests, we have that alexis saw nothing happen to prif. we have sparkles who copped the NK, and we have Ali who didn't see sigi move.

Like our invests didn't find anything out last night so i'd say give them another chance before we potentially ML them
 
I think you’re scum floundering right now instead of genuinely trying to solve.

All of your solving right now is defensive/omgus adjacent more than looking like you’re actually trying to take an open mind to approach the whole game and try to sort things out.
 
Your last solve including me and Dest in it lol. So two scum are just both claiming protective abilities and you haven’t even yet had the thought that that’s a little weird and at least requires some consideration?
 
Dr_Professor83 said:
How does this make sense?
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well we started with 12. and after the first NK and vote we have 10. if vig kills town N2 and scum kills town as well, after the vote we're down to 7 D3. if the game isn't over then, then it could be if vig misfires again. idk how many shots the vig has but like, if it's more than 1 then if they kill too many town, town loses instantly. so to protect town from vig shooting incorrectly i think my role exists, especially if reloaded is more than one shot
 
Pqwerty said:
well we started with 12. and after the first NK and vote we have 10. if vig kills town N2 and scum kills town as well, after the vote we're down to 7 D3. if the game isn't over then, then it could be if vig misfires again. idk how many shots the vig has but like, if it's more than 1 then if they kill too many town, town loses instantly. so to protect town from vig shooting incorrectly i think my role exists, especially if reloaded is more than one shot
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That requires vig to shoot exactly your role lol. Out of 11 people. (Presumably out of 9 town). That doesn’t make much sense to be the reason it’s included lol
 
It’s even less likely if the slot is town and playing townie lol, in which case it won’t be a vig target to begin with.

Town are BP primarily to protect from scum kills when they exist. (Like scum BP exists primarily to defend from Vig/Indies)
 
There’s probably not much to discuss with you for me lol. Bc if you’re town, the mindset you’ve entered and the way you’re playing/“solving” is not helping me find you at all lol.

And if you’re scum then it’s a waste of time lol.

I’ll try to leave you to it!
 
Dr_Professor83 said:
I asked you politely to solve for multiple scenarios here and I’m not seeing even an attempt at that
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ok so if you're actually a town protective role, then i think it's probably something like Sigi X Luka. If you're wolf then it's probably something like Sigi you Pot.

idk i just don't buy that town has this many protective roles so i think there's always a wolf among you and X in the same way that you think there's a wolf among the investigatives. and i think unless sigi has a good reason to not target someone N1 then he might be a ninja

like im trying to keep an open mind here but like
(1) watson already flipped 1-shot doc so how many other protective roles even are there for you and X to be? JK, RB, and i think there's like one more kind of doc?
(2) if everyone has a role then why is sigi not visiting someone?
 
Dr_Professor83 said:
That requires vig to shoot exactly your role lol. Out of 11 people. (Presumably out of 9 town). That doesn’t make much sense to be the reason it’s included lol
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well it's probably in addition to whatever protectives we have imo. like if we have a 2shot vig then game prob ends on a misfire so protectives are there to prevent that a little bit.

plus maybe i exist to better the odds if im not protected so that they cant protect elsewhere
 
Pqwerty said:
ok so if you're actually a town protective role, then i think it's probably something like Sigi X Luka. If you're wolf then it's probably something like Sigi you Pot.

idk i just don't buy that town has this many protective roles so i think there's always a wolf among you and X in the same way that you think there's a wolf among the investigatives. and i think unless sigi has a good reason to not target someone N1 then he might be a ninja

like im trying to keep an open mind here but like
(1) watson already flipped 1-shot doc so how many other protective roles even are there for you and X to be? JK, RB, and i think there's like one more kind of doc?
(2) if everyone has a role then why is sigi not visiting someone?
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From my PoV one of you/X/Reloaded are scum.

You keep trying to separate from the protective roles bc it isn’t active but yours is stronger than Watson’s or mine due to being presumably infinite even if it’s passive.

I think you look way more like scum than X.

If you flip town I’ll be stuck with the task of figuring out if we really did have this much protection and it’s countered by scum with extra KP. I really don’t think X is scum rn though and I think it’s just going to be you. (I also don’t really love the idea of 4 town protects + scum extra KP Reloaded lol)
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Sigi hasn’t claimed to be roleless, just that he hasn’t do anything so far. I’ve considered him being ninja but I think if he was that scum could kill someone other than Watson.

Why do you think Ali is town?
 
In analyzing pqwerty as a potential werewolf (mafia) player, several key observations can be made based on the game dynamics and player behavior.

  1. Excess of Protective Roles: The game likely has a lot of protective roles such as Doctor or Bodyguard, which generally makes it more difficult for werewolves to operate effectively. In a situation where many players are taking on protective roles, the mafia team (especially in larger games) often faces a challenge in executing their night kills. This environment tends to encourage a strategy where the mafia members must blend in or create confusion rather than aggressively target players. pqwerty could be trying to exploit this dynamic by adopting a more subtle, defensive role — or alternatively, acting erratically to distract others from their role. In many cases, mafia players will make themselves seem less suspicious by leaning into chaos or making strange, off-putting moves that distract from their true intentions.
  2. Emotional and Erratic Behavior: The previous player's behavior, described as "emotional and crazy," is a typical strategy for someone trying to appear harmless or confused. In mafia games, a player who seems overly emotional or erratic may be trying to signal to others that they are a non-threat. This can draw suspicion away from them, as other players may dismiss them as just playing poorly or being caught up in the heat of the moment. If pqwerty was the one reacting emotionally, it could be a tactic to divert suspicion, which is a common mafia strategy — use unpredictable, uncalm behavior to sow doubt or confusion and make other players less likely to focus on them.
  3. Overcompensation and Blame: Often, mafia players will overcompensate by making their behavior more noticeable or by blaming others for emotional reactions. In this case, if pqwerty were a werewolf, they might have intentionally played up the emotional chaos to appear as though they were "reacting" to the situation, thus making others question whether they were just an innocent bystander or an easy target for town members to frame. Werewolves sometimes need to make others seem unstable, and by playing on the emotional dynamics of the game, they can create confusion about who the true targets are.
In conclusion, pqwerty appears to be a prime suspect for the werewolf team based on the combination of an overload of protective roles, which would encourage mafia members to be more cautious or subtle, and the erratic, emotional behavior that could easily be interpreted as a strategy to mislead the group. This blend of overcompensation and emotional manipulation is often a hallmark of mafia players trying to cover their tracks and avoid suspicion.
 
Luka said:
Why?
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Are you not an indie?
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Luka said:
Im reading Shangri la Frontier rn, its sooo good
Just raelized where your PFP is from

On that note this is kind of giving me more fuel to vote Ali (with love)
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Funny thing is that I've never watched the show lmao I just really dig this fella's style

Alexis2282AE said:
PROS/CONS - Reads

Sigismund
Reasons Sigismund is Town:
  • He's been mostly quiet, which doesn't fit the usual profile of a wolf trying to manipulate the game early on.
  • When questioned, he confirmed he didn't visit anyone N1, which aligns with Ali's Tracker claim if Ali is to be believed.
  • He stated he has no reads, this could be seen as townie since he is not forcing reads.
  • States his posting aligns with his character's.
Reasons Sigismund is Mafia:
  • His lack of reads and minimal participation could be interpreted as lurking, especially since he claims to have skimmed the thread while drinking a beer.
  • Could be lying low to prevent from being read.
  • Pot Goblin and I both have Sigismund on our scum reads.

VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.

Dr_Professor83
Reasons Dr_Professor83 is Town:
  • He's been actively trying to guide the discussion and push for productive actions, which generally aligns with town behavior.
  • He claimed a Protector role, which is a believable claim in a game with multiple investigative roles, and it would make sense for town to have strong power roles to counter the scum team.
  • He openly admitted to being wrong about thinking Ali was town due to meta, showing a willingness to adjust his views.
  • He is the highest poster and seems genuinely invested in solving the game.
  • He acknowledged that Sparkles might be right about Pqwerty.
Reasons Dr_Professor83 is Mafia:
  • His initial push against Flower, followed by a quick acceptance of her as town, could be seen as an attempt to manipulate the town's perception of her.
  • His questioning of Sparkles about the number of shots for her claimed role could be interpreted as fishing for information.
  • He has suggested that both he and The X might be on a scum team with Sparkles, which could be an attempt to deflect suspicion from himself.

VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.

The X
Reasons The X is Mafia:
  • His initial aggressive push against Flower, followed by a quick shift to targeting Ali, could be seen as an attempt to create chaos and distract from his own actions.
  • His claim of being a protective role is convenient, as it provides a reason for him not to disclose his target.
  • He's been accused by multiple players of being disingenuous and misrepresenting Flower's actions.
  • He voted for Pot Goblin seemingly out of nowhere, which could be an attempt to bus a teammate.
  • When asked if he was going after players who pushed him, he said yes to Luka.
Reasons The X is Town:
  • He has been actively analyzing the game and trying to identify inconsistencies, even if his conclusions are debatable.
  • He's shown a willingness to work with others, even if he expresses doubts about their reads.
  • He has acknowledged that his initial push against Flower might have been misguided.

VERDICT: Leaning SCUM.

Pot Goblin
Reasons Pot Goblin is Mafia:
  • His initial posts were mostly jokes and off-topic chatter, which could be a way to avoid making concrete reads or taking a firm stance.
  • He voted for OLU (One Last Username) at the end of Day 1, despite earlier expressing uncertainty about whether OLU was scum. This could be seen as a last-minute attempt to avoid suspicion, especially considering his earlier defense of Flower.
  • He claimed to have not known about the earlier discussion on Ali and Sparkles, needing to be told, which could be a sign of trying to distance himself.
Reasons Pot Goblin is Town:
  • He has shown an increased level of engagement as the game progressed.
  • He has acknowledged that some of his earlier reads were based on misunderstandings.
  • He has provided a list of scum reads, even if it wasn't very detailed.
  • He has pointed out that me and Sigismund are unlikely to be on the same team, which is a reasonable observation.

VERDICT: Leaning SCUM.

Dr. Watson
Reasons Dr. Watson is Town:
  • They were killed on Night 1, which confirms them as a townie.
Reasons Dr. Watson is Mafia:
  • N/A

VERDICT: Confirmed TOWN.

Flower/Pqwerty
Reasons Flower/Pqwerty is Mafia:
  • Flower's early bulletproof claim could be seen as a risky move for a townie.
  • Flower's aggressive and emotional reactions to being questioned could be interpreted as a wolf trying to deflect suspicion.
  • Pqwerty's immediate defense of Flower after subbing in could be seen as suspicious.
  • Pqwerty seemed to have no read on OLU, despite the earlier conversation.

Reasons Flower/Pqwerty is Town:
  • Flower has been very active and has provided a lot of content, even if some of it is based on meta.
  • Pqwerty has expressed skepticism about the number of protective roles in the game, which could be a genuine town concern.
  • Pqwerty has provided a list of scum reads, even if it's not fully developed.
  • Flower was later replaced by Pqwerty.
  • Pqwerty made a post that could be seen as town-motivated, trying to understand the reasoning behind previous votes.

VERDICT: Leaning SCUM.

Mr. Reloaded
Reasons Mr. Reloaded is Town:
  • He claimed to be a conditional Vig, which could be a genuine attempt to be transparent.
  • His posts have become more game-related as Day 2 progresses.

Reasons Mr. Reloaded is Mafia:
  • His early posts were mostly jokes and off-topic chatter.
  • His claim of being a conditional Vig could be a way to avoid scrutiny or to set up a fake claim later.

VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.

One Last Username
Reasons One Last Username is Town:
  • They were lynched on Day 1 and flipped as Bella, a town role with a 1-shot ability to destroy another player's one-shot ability. This confirms them as town.

Reasons One Last Username is Mafia:
  • N/A

VERDICT: Confirmed TOWN.

Luka
Reasons Luka is Town:
  • Has been actively engaging in discussions and questioning other players' reasoning.
  • Has expressed genuine frustration with the game and with specific players' actions.
  • Has provided a list of scum reads, even if it's based on limited information.
  • Has pointed out inconsistencies in other players' arguments and actions.

Reasons Luka is Mafia:
  • Their defense of Flower could be seen as a wolf trying to protect a teammate.
  • Their focus on The X's actions could be a way to deflect suspicion from their own actions.
  • His claim that the other players were not giving reasons for their suspicions on The X could be interpreted as a wolf trying to defend a teammate.

VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.

Ali
Reasons Ali is Mafia:
  • Claimed to be a Tracker, which could be a lie to gain town's trust.
  • Their reaction to being questioned by Sparkles could be seen as defensive and evasive.
  • His explanation for targeting Sigi on Night 1 (because he didn't visit anyone) could be seen as a weak justification.
  • His reads are inconsistent, originally claiming to have town reads on Dr. Professor83 and The X, then later claiming not to have any reads.
Reasons Ali is Town:
  • Has been actively participating in discussions and trying to explain his reasoning.
  • Has expressed genuine frustration with the way the game is going.
  • Has provided a tracker result that could potentially clear Sigismund.

VERDICT: Leaning SCUM.

Sparkles
Reasons Sparkles is Town:
  • Has been actively engaging in discussions and questioning other players' reasoning.
  • Has expressed genuine frustration with the way the game is going.
  • Has provided some analysis of the game state, even if it's not always accurate.
  • She's been proactive in trying to get claims from players and has been trying to push for lynches she believes are beneficial for the town.
  • She claimed one shot cop, which is a risky claim for scum to make unless they have a good reason to believe they can get away with it.
Reasons Sparkles is Mafia:
  • Her immediate acceptance of Dr. Professor83 as a "protagonist" (even if intended to be humorous) could be seen as a wolf trying to pocket a townie.
  • Her push for Ali's lynch could be an attempt to eliminate a townie who suspects them.
  • She has made several posts that could be interpreted as trying to manipulate the town's perception of the game state, such as suggesting that there might be too many protective roles.

VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.
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Alexis2282AE said:
SORT

Sigismund
Dr_Professor83
Sparkles
Luka
Mr. Reloaded

Flower/Pqwerty
The X
Ali
Pot Goblin
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Chills...
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Pqwerty said:
all im gonna say tho is my wagon had 2 votes D1 and everyone was sus of it yesterday and everyone is sus of it today.

Like I should've been voted out yesterday and I feel like you, Sparkles, and Prif certainly had enough pull to make ppl go my way over OLU.

I'm not saying all 3 of you are scum, but isn't it possible that scum snuck in to that towncore and was so confident they'd be watched/wouldn't get tracked that they chose a kill that keeps all the top trs alive and leaves ppl relatively unchanged with their POE?
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Prof and Sparkles wanted Ali or Always D1.
 
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