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Sigismund
Reasons Sigismund is Town:
  • He's been mostly quiet, which doesn't fit the usual profile of a wolf trying to manipulate the game early on.
  • When questioned, he confirmed he didn't visit anyone N1, which aligns with Ali's Tracker claim if Ali is to be believed.
    Sigismund said:
    That dude was right I didn't visit anyone last night.
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  • He stated he has no reads, this could be seen as townie since he is not forcing reads.
    Sigismund said:
    Its day one, I don't have any real reads.
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  • States his posting aligns with his character's.
    Sigismund said:
    I am actually town this game, and on a character I actually like lol
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Reasons Sigismund is Mafia:

VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.

Dr_Professor83
Reasons Dr_Professor83 is Town:
  • He's been actively trying to guide the discussion and push for productive actions, which generally aligns with town behavior.
  • He claimed a Protector role, which is a believable claim in a game with multiple investigative roles, and it would make sense for town to have strong power roles to counter the scum team.
    Dr_Professor83 said:
    I also am a protect. :nicked
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  • He openly admitted to being wrong about thinking Ali was town due to meta, showing a willingness to adjust his views.
    Dr_Professor83 said:
    I was wrong about Ali
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  • He is the highest poster and seems genuinely invested in solving the game.
  • He acknowledged that Sparkles might be right about Pqwerty.
    Dr_Professor83 said:
    Yeah I agree.
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Reasons Dr_Professor83 is Mafia:
  • His initial push against Flower, followed by a quick acceptance of her as town, could be seen as an attempt to manipulate the town's perception of her.
  • His questioning of Sparkles about the number of shots for her claimed role could be interpreted as fishing for information.
    Dr_Professor83 said:
    You have such a charming way of requesting cooperation lol
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  • He has suggested that both he and The X might be on a scum team with Sparkles, which could be an attempt to deflect suspicion from himself.
    Dr_Professor83 said:
    I kinda think there’s a world where Flower & AM are both scum tbh lol.
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VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.

The X
Reasons The X is Mafia:
  • His initial aggressive push against Flower, followed by a quick shift to targeting Ali, could be seen as an attempt to create chaos and distract from his own actions.
    The X said:
    I asked for the wolf team. Should be easy enough for you to drop a team. I'm just asking for a few names.
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  • His claim of being a protective role is convenient, as it provides a reason for him not to disclose his target.
  • He's been accused by multiple players of being disingenuous and misrepresenting Flower's actions.
    Luka said:
    I am saying reads revolving around you from the player group are primarily based off of meta.
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  • He voted for Pot Goblin seemingly out of nowhere, which could be an attempt to bus a teammate.
    The X said:
    Vote Pot Goblin
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  • When asked if he was going after players who pushed him, he said yes to Luka.
    The X said:
    Luka, I never take anything serious in this game, that's why I can so casually tell someone to fuck off and fuck themselves. Ha. But I will apolgozie as well because the was uncouth behavior.
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Reasons The X is Town:
  • He has been actively analyzing the game and trying to identify inconsistencies, even if his conclusions are debatable.
  • He's shown a willingness to work with others, even if he expresses doubts about their reads.
  • He has acknowledged that his initial push against Flower might have been misguided.

VERDICT: Leaning SCUM.

Pot Goblin
Reasons Pot Goblin is Mafia:
  • His initial posts were mostly jokes and off-topic chatter, which could be a way to avoid making concrete reads or taking a firm stance.
  • He voted for OLU (One Last Username) at the end of Day 1, despite earlier expressing uncertainty about whether OLU was scum. This could be seen as a last-minute attempt to avoid suspicion, especially considering his earlier defense of Flower.
  • He claimed to have not known about the earlier discussion on Ali and Sparkles, needing to be told, which could be a sign of trying to distance himself.
    Pot Goblin said:
    What's the scoop on the fella? Or at least where can I read the beginning of this thread
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Reasons Pot Goblin is Town:
  • He has shown an increased level of engagement as the game progressed.
  • He has acknowledged that some of his earlier reads were based on misunderstandings.
  • He has provided a list of scum reads, even if it wasn't very detailed.
  • He has pointed out that me and Sigismund are unlikely to be on the same team, which is a reasonable observation.
    Pot Goblin said:
    If Sigi flips scum I'd put Alexis as town imo, I'm not familiar with their scumgame but I don't get the vibe that they'd bus a mate in these games
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VERDICT: Leaning SCUM.

Dr. Watson
Reasons Dr. Watson is Town:
  • They were killed on Night 1, which confirms them as a townie.
Reasons Dr. Watson is Mafia:
  • N/A

VERDICT: Confirmed TOWN.

Flower/Pqwerty
Reasons Flower/Pqwerty is Mafia:
  • Flower's early bulletproof claim could be seen as a risky move for a townie.
    Flower said:
    Oh my god.

    I‘m Jack Kline, I‘m bulletproof. Now stop voting me Jfc.
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  • Flower's aggressive and emotional reactions to being questioned could be interpreted as a wolf trying to deflect suspicion.
    Flower said:
    Yeah, talking to you is a waste of time. You find a way to call me scum no matter what I say, so good day to you.
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  • Pqwerty's immediate defense of Flower after subbing in could be seen as suspicious.
    Pqwerty said:
    i did this in a champs game where i sussed someone and they subbed out and i sussed the person bc of the sins of their sub despite them being super towny.

    they flipped town and ended up winning champs

    and i didn't even progress to the next round cuz i tunneled obv town

    so idk it's not the best thing to sus me bc of things i couldnt control
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  • Pqwerty seemed to have no read on OLU, despite the earlier conversation.
    Pqwerty said:
    i'm confused.

    what malice have i done? and why are ali and alexis still alive? why is watson dead?
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Reasons Flower/Pqwerty is Town:
  • Flower has been very active and has provided a lot of content, even if some of it is based on meta.
  • Pqwerty has expressed skepticism about the number of protective roles in the game, which could be a genuine town concern.
  • Pqwerty has provided a list of scum reads, even if it's not fully developed.
  • Flower was later replaced by Pqwerty.
  • Pqwerty made a post that could be seen as town-motivated, trying to understand the reasoning behind previous votes.
    Pqwerty said:
    Well I just thought there’d be like

    yknow

    resistance

    or a counterwagon
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VERDICT: Leaning SCUM.

Mr. Reloaded
Reasons Mr. Reloaded is Town:
  • He claimed to be a conditional Vig, which could be a genuine attempt to be transparent.
    Mr. Reloaded said:
    I am not the vig in the sense I can start blasting whenever. I have to wait before I can fire.
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  • His posts have become more game-related as Day 2 progresses.

Reasons Mr. Reloaded is Mafia:
  • His early posts were mostly jokes and off-topic chatter.
  • His claim of being a conditional Vig could be a way to avoid scrutiny or to set up a fake claim later.

VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.

One Last Username
Reasons One Last Username is Town:
  • They were lynched on Day 1 and flipped as Bella, a town role with a 1-shot ability to destroy another player's one-shot ability. This confirms them as town.

Reasons One Last Username is Mafia:
  • N/A

VERDICT: Confirmed TOWN.

Luka
Reasons Luka is Town:
  • Has been actively engaging in discussions and questioning other players' reasoning.
  • Has expressed genuine frustration with the game and with specific players' actions.
  • Has provided a list of scum reads, even if it's based on limited information.
  • Has pointed out inconsistencies in other players' arguments and actions.

Reasons Luka is Mafia:
  • Their defense of Flower could be seen as a wolf trying to protect a teammate.
  • Their focus on The X's actions could be a way to deflect suspicion from their own actions.
  • His claim that the other players were not giving reasons for their suspicions on The X could be interpreted as a wolf trying to defend a teammate.
    Luka said:
    They only ever started suspecting me once I pushed him for poor logic, and the reason for suspecting me is just. not there?

    Pot goblin at the very least has a reason, as bad as it is - I cannot see the same applying for Destroya.
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VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.

Ali
Reasons Ali is Mafia:
  • Claimed to be a Tracker, which could be a lie to gain town's trust.
  • Their reaction to being questioned by Sparkles could be seen as defensive and evasive.
  • His explanation for targeting Sigi on Night 1 (because he didn't visit anyone) could be seen as a weak justification.
  • His reads are inconsistent, originally claiming to have town reads on Dr. Professor83 and The X, then later claiming not to have any reads.
Reasons Ali is Town:
  • Has been actively participating in discussions and trying to explain his reasoning.
  • Has expressed genuine frustration with the way the game is going.
  • Has provided a tracker result that could potentially clear Sigismund.
    Ali said:
    I tracked Sigi last night because he was in my sus list too, but after the results came in clean I’m less sus of him and more into pot/X
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VERDICT: Leaning SCUM.

Sparkles
Reasons Sparkles is Town:
  • Has been actively engaging in discussions and questioning other players' reasoning.
  • Has expressed genuine frustration with the way the game is going.
  • Has provided some analysis of the game state, even if it's not always accurate.
  • She's been proactive in trying to get claims from players and has been trying to push for lynches she believes are beneficial for the town.
  • She claimed one shot cop, which is a risky claim for scum to make unless they have a good reason to believe they can get away with it.
Reasons Sparkles is Mafia:
  • Her immediate acceptance of Dr. Professor83 as a "protagonist" (even if intended to be humorous) could be seen as a wolf trying to pocket a townie.
  • Her push for Ali's lynch could be an attempt to eliminate a townie who suspects them.
  • She has made several posts that could be interpreted as trying to manipulate the town's perception of the game state, such as suggesting that there might be too many protective roles.

VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.
 
Alexis2282AE said:
PROS/CONS - Reads

Sigismund
Reasons Sigismund is Town:
  • He's been mostly quiet, which doesn't fit the usual profile of a wolf trying to manipulate the game early on.
  • When questioned, he confirmed he didn't visit anyone N1, which aligns with Ali's Tracker claim if Ali is to be believed.
  • He stated he has no reads, this could be seen as townie since he is not forcing reads.
  • States his posting aligns with his character's.
Reasons Sigismund is Mafia:
  • His lack of reads and minimal participation could be interpreted as lurking, especially since he claims to have skimmed the thread while drinking a beer.
  • Could be lying low to prevent from being read.
  • Pot Goblin and I both have Sigismund on our scum reads.

VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.

Dr_Professor83
Reasons Dr_Professor83 is Town:
  • He's been actively trying to guide the discussion and push for productive actions, which generally aligns with town behavior.
  • He claimed a Protector role, which is a believable claim in a game with multiple investigative roles, and it would make sense for town to have strong power roles to counter the scum team.
  • He openly admitted to being wrong about thinking Ali was town due to meta, showing a willingness to adjust his views.
  • He is the highest poster and seems genuinely invested in solving the game.
  • He acknowledged that Sparkles might be right about Pqwerty.
Reasons Dr_Professor83 is Mafia:
  • His initial push against Flower, followed by a quick acceptance of her as town, could be seen as an attempt to manipulate the town's perception of her.
  • His questioning of Sparkles about the number of shots for her claimed role could be interpreted as fishing for information.
  • He has suggested that both he and The X might be on a scum team with Sparkles, which could be an attempt to deflect suspicion from himself.

VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.

The X
Reasons The X is Mafia:
  • His initial aggressive push against Flower, followed by a quick shift to targeting Ali, could be seen as an attempt to create chaos and distract from his own actions.
  • His claim of being a protective role is convenient, as it provides a reason for him not to disclose his target.
  • He's been accused by multiple players of being disingenuous and misrepresenting Flower's actions.
  • He voted for Pot Goblin seemingly out of nowhere, which could be an attempt to bus a teammate.
  • When asked if he was going after players who pushed him, he said yes to Luka.
Reasons The X is Town:
  • He has been actively analyzing the game and trying to identify inconsistencies, even if his conclusions are debatable.
  • He's shown a willingness to work with others, even if he expresses doubts about their reads.
  • He has acknowledged that his initial push against Flower might have been misguided.

VERDICT: Leaning SCUM.

Pot Goblin
Reasons Pot Goblin is Mafia:
  • His initial posts were mostly jokes and off-topic chatter, which could be a way to avoid making concrete reads or taking a firm stance.
  • He voted for OLU (One Last Username) at the end of Day 1, despite earlier expressing uncertainty about whether OLU was scum. This could be seen as a last-minute attempt to avoid suspicion, especially considering his earlier defense of Flower.
  • He claimed to have not known about the earlier discussion on Ali and Sparkles, needing to be told, which could be a sign of trying to distance himself.
Reasons Pot Goblin is Town:
  • He has shown an increased level of engagement as the game progressed.
  • He has acknowledged that some of his earlier reads were based on misunderstandings.
  • He has provided a list of scum reads, even if it wasn't very detailed.
  • He has pointed out that me and Sigismund are unlikely to be on the same team, which is a reasonable observation.

VERDICT: Leaning SCUM.

Dr. Watson
Reasons Dr. Watson is Town:
  • They were killed on Night 1, which confirms them as a townie.
Reasons Dr. Watson is Mafia:
  • N/A

VERDICT: Confirmed TOWN.

Flower/Pqwerty
Reasons Flower/Pqwerty is Mafia:
  • Flower's early bulletproof claim could be seen as a risky move for a townie.
  • Flower's aggressive and emotional reactions to being questioned could be interpreted as a wolf trying to deflect suspicion.
  • Pqwerty's immediate defense of Flower after subbing in could be seen as suspicious.
  • Pqwerty seemed to have no read on OLU, despite the earlier conversation.

Reasons Flower/Pqwerty is Town:
  • Flower has been very active and has provided a lot of content, even if some of it is based on meta.
  • Pqwerty has expressed skepticism about the number of protective roles in the game, which could be a genuine town concern.
  • Pqwerty has provided a list of scum reads, even if it's not fully developed.
  • Flower was later replaced by Pqwerty.
  • Pqwerty made a post that could be seen as town-motivated, trying to understand the reasoning behind previous votes.

VERDICT: Leaning SCUM.

Mr. Reloaded
Reasons Mr. Reloaded is Town:
  • He claimed to be a conditional Vig, which could be a genuine attempt to be transparent.
  • His posts have become more game-related as Day 2 progresses.

Reasons Mr. Reloaded is Mafia:
  • His early posts were mostly jokes and off-topic chatter.
  • His claim of being a conditional Vig could be a way to avoid scrutiny or to set up a fake claim later.

VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.

One Last Username
Reasons One Last Username is Town:
  • They were lynched on Day 1 and flipped as Bella, a town role with a 1-shot ability to destroy another player's one-shot ability. This confirms them as town.

Reasons One Last Username is Mafia:
  • N/A

VERDICT: Confirmed TOWN.

Luka
Reasons Luka is Town:
  • Has been actively engaging in discussions and questioning other players' reasoning.
  • Has expressed genuine frustration with the game and with specific players' actions.
  • Has provided a list of scum reads, even if it's based on limited information.
  • Has pointed out inconsistencies in other players' arguments and actions.

Reasons Luka is Mafia:
  • Their defense of Flower could be seen as a wolf trying to protect a teammate.
  • Their focus on The X's actions could be a way to deflect suspicion from their own actions.
  • His claim that the other players were not giving reasons for their suspicions on The X could be interpreted as a wolf trying to defend a teammate.

VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.

Ali
Reasons Ali is Mafia:
  • Claimed to be a Tracker, which could be a lie to gain town's trust.
  • Their reaction to being questioned by Sparkles could be seen as defensive and evasive.
  • His explanation for targeting Sigi on Night 1 (because he didn't visit anyone) could be seen as a weak justification.
  • His reads are inconsistent, originally claiming to have town reads on Dr. Professor83 and The X, then later claiming not to have any reads.
Reasons Ali is Town:
  • Has been actively participating in discussions and trying to explain his reasoning.
  • Has expressed genuine frustration with the way the game is going.
  • Has provided a tracker result that could potentially clear Sigismund.

VERDICT: Leaning SCUM.

Sparkles
Reasons Sparkles is Town:
  • Has been actively engaging in discussions and questioning other players' reasoning.
  • Has expressed genuine frustration with the way the game is going.
  • Has provided some analysis of the game state, even if it's not always accurate.
  • She's been proactive in trying to get claims from players and has been trying to push for lynches she believes are beneficial for the town.
  • She claimed one shot cop, which is a risky claim for scum to make unless they have a good reason to believe they can get away with it.
Reasons Sparkles is Mafia:
  • Her immediate acceptance of Dr. Professor83 as a "protagonist" (even if intended to be humorous) could be seen as a wolf trying to pocket a townie.
  • Her push for Ali's lynch could be an attempt to eliminate a townie who suspects them.
  • She has made several posts that could be interpreted as trying to manipulate the town's perception of the game state, such as suggesting that there might be too many protective roles.

VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.
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SORT

Sigismund
Dr_Professor83
Sparkles
Luka
Mr. Reloaded

Flower/Pqwerty
The X
Ali
Pot Goblin
 
Pqwerty said:
i already said i thought it was sigi x + 1. i didn't know the +1 would be you

i might be really wrong tho but like i really didn't like X pushing OLU and i really don't know what to think about sigi going nowhere last night in a role madness game
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I wanted you D1 but I wasn't getting my way. I played ball with Prof and Sparkles and cooperated with them by focusing on Always and Ali. Then Ali claimed tracker and I wasn't comfortable toasting that claim D1, so I said let's vote OLU and get it done with.

Kind of weak you're going to shade me for mislynching when OLU wasn't even my idea orb preferred direction, I was just pushing him to make sure we had a consensus.
 
Pqwerty said:
also i've been thinking about it but if alexis and ali both have 2 shots and they used one last night then maybe we should let them use their last shot tn so we don't waste our tracker and watcher? after that they become named townies so
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You think they're both town? Why are the wolves letting them get their shots off?
 
Pqwerty said:
Then again... luka seemed pretty sure watson redirected the wolf shot onto themselves so maybe we're in an unlucky timeline?

but that's really unlucky
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Mathematically speaking there's less than a one percent chance that happened. So...
 
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The X said:
I wanted you D1 but I wasn't getting my way. I played ball with Prof and Sparkles and cooperated with them by focusing on Always and Ali. Then Ali claimed tracker and I wasn't comfortable toasting that claim D1, so I said let's vote OLU and get it done with.

Kind of weak you're going to shade me for mislynching when OLU wasn't even my idea orb preferred direction, I was just pushing him to make sure we had a consensus.
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all im gonna say tho is my wagon had 2 votes D1 and everyone was sus of it yesterday and everyone is sus of it today.

Like I should've been voted out yesterday and I feel like you, Sparkles, and Prif certainly had enough pull to make ppl go my way over OLU.

I'm not saying all 3 of you are scum, but isn't it possible that scum snuck in to that towncore and was so confident they'd be watched/wouldn't get tracked that they chose a kill that keeps all the top trs alive and leaves ppl relatively unchanged with their POE?
 
also i think Prif said earlier that there could be ninjas. so maybe if we really do have 3 town invests then the big red herring here would be that mafia have ninjas and do not care if trackers track or watchers watch, and town just eats its investigative roles.

if that's the case it looks bad for Sigi to visit no one.
 
also we seem to be assuming there's 3 active protection roles just fine. why do ppl not question town having a vig and 3 protective roles after one just flipped town?

my protection is passive and i assume it exists to stop vig from ending the game if they misfire.
 
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