well we started with 12. and after the first NK and vote we have 10. if vig kills town N2 and scum kills town as well, after the vote we're down to 7 D3. if the game isn't over then, then it could be if vig misfires again. idk how many shots the vig has but like, if it's more than 1 then if they kill too many town, town loses instantly. so to protect town from vig shooting incorrectly i think my role exists, especially if reloaded is more than one shotHow does this make sense?
That requires vig to shoot exactly your role lol. Out of 11 people. (Presumably out of 9 town). That doesn’t make much sense to be the reason it’s included lolwell we started with 12. and after the first NK and vote we have 10. if vig kills town N2 and scum kills town as well, after the vote we're down to 7 D3. if the game isn't over then, then it could be if vig misfires again. idk how many shots the vig has but like, if it's more than 1 then if they kill too many town, town loses instantly. so to protect town from vig shooting incorrectly i think my role exists, especially if reloaded is more than one shot
ok so if you're actually a town protective role, then i think it's probably something like Sigi X Luka. If you're wolf then it's probably something like Sigi you Pot.I asked you politely to solve for multiple scenarios here and I’m not seeing even an attempt at that
well it's probably in addition to whatever protectives we have imo. like if we have a 2shot vig then game prob ends on a misfire so protectives are there to prevent that a little bit.That requires vig to shoot exactly your role lol. Out of 11 people. (Presumably out of 9 town). That doesn’t make much sense to be the reason it’s included lol
I did not.You said you had mech both of the roles aren't real. Did I misinterpret that post lol
Oh fuck. I didn't even think about AI in Mafia games.He’s using AI lol.
From my PoV one of you/X/Reloaded are scum.ok so if you're actually a town protective role, then i think it's probably something like Sigi X Luka. If you're wolf then it's probably something like Sigi you Pot.
idk i just don't buy that town has this many protective roles so i think there's always a wolf among you and X in the same way that you think there's a wolf among the investigatives. and i think unless sigi has a good reason to not target someone N1 then he might be a ninja
like im trying to keep an open mind here but like
(1) watson already flipped 1-shot doc so how many other protective roles even are there for you and X to be? JK, RB, and i think there's like one more kind of doc?
(2) if everyone has a role then why is sigi not visiting someone?
The future is now old manOh fuck. I didn't even think about AI in Mafia games.
Are you not an indie?Why?
Funny thing is that I've never watched the show lmao I just really dig this fella's styleIm reading Shangri la Frontier rn, its sooo good
Just raelized where your PFP is from
On that note this is kind of giving me more fuel to vote Ali (with love)
PROS/CONS - Reads
Sigismund
Reasons Sigismund is Town:
Reasons Sigismund is Mafia:
- He's been mostly quiet, which doesn't fit the usual profile of a wolf trying to manipulate the game early on.
- When questioned, he confirmed he didn't visit anyone N1, which aligns with Ali's Tracker claim if Ali is to be believed.
- He stated he has no reads, this could be seen as townie since he is not forcing reads.
- States his posting aligns with his character's.
- His lack of reads and minimal participation could be interpreted as lurking, especially since he claims to have skimmed the thread while drinking a beer.
- Could be lying low to prevent from being read.
- Pot Goblin and I both have Sigismund on our scum reads.
VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.
Dr_Professor83
Reasons Dr_Professor83 is Town:
Reasons Dr_Professor83 is Mafia:
- He's been actively trying to guide the discussion and push for productive actions, which generally aligns with town behavior.
- He claimed a Protector role, which is a believable claim in a game with multiple investigative roles, and it would make sense for town to have strong power roles to counter the scum team.
- He openly admitted to being wrong about thinking Ali was town due to meta, showing a willingness to adjust his views.
- He is the highest poster and seems genuinely invested in solving the game.
- He acknowledged that Sparkles might be right about Pqwerty.
- His initial push against Flower, followed by a quick acceptance of her as town, could be seen as an attempt to manipulate the town's perception of her.
- His questioning of Sparkles about the number of shots for her claimed role could be interpreted as fishing for information.
- He has suggested that both he and The X might be on a scum team with Sparkles, which could be an attempt to deflect suspicion from himself.
VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.
The X
Reasons The X is Mafia:
Reasons The X is Town:
- His initial aggressive push against Flower, followed by a quick shift to targeting Ali, could be seen as an attempt to create chaos and distract from his own actions.
- His claim of being a protective role is convenient, as it provides a reason for him not to disclose his target.
- He's been accused by multiple players of being disingenuous and misrepresenting Flower's actions.
- He voted for Pot Goblin seemingly out of nowhere, which could be an attempt to bus a teammate.
- When asked if he was going after players who pushed him, he said yes to Luka.
- He has been actively analyzing the game and trying to identify inconsistencies, even if his conclusions are debatable.
- He's shown a willingness to work with others, even if he expresses doubts about their reads.
- He has acknowledged that his initial push against Flower might have been misguided.
VERDICT: Leaning SCUM.
Pot Goblin
Reasons Pot Goblin is Mafia:
Reasons Pot Goblin is Town:
- His initial posts were mostly jokes and off-topic chatter, which could be a way to avoid making concrete reads or taking a firm stance.
- He voted for OLU (One Last Username) at the end of Day 1, despite earlier expressing uncertainty about whether OLU was scum. This could be seen as a last-minute attempt to avoid suspicion, especially considering his earlier defense of Flower.
- He claimed to have not known about the earlier discussion on Ali and Sparkles, needing to be told, which could be a sign of trying to distance himself.
- He has shown an increased level of engagement as the game progressed.
- He has acknowledged that some of his earlier reads were based on misunderstandings.
- He has provided a list of scum reads, even if it wasn't very detailed.
- He has pointed out that me and Sigismund are unlikely to be on the same team, which is a reasonable observation.
VERDICT: Leaning SCUM.
Dr. Watson
Reasons Dr. Watson is Town:
Reasons Dr. Watson is Mafia:
- They were killed on Night 1, which confirms them as a townie.
- N/A
VERDICT: Confirmed TOWN.
Flower/Pqwerty
Reasons Flower/Pqwerty is Mafia:
- Flower's early bulletproof claim could be seen as a risky move for a townie.
- Flower's aggressive and emotional reactions to being questioned could be interpreted as a wolf trying to deflect suspicion.
- Pqwerty's immediate defense of Flower after subbing in could be seen as suspicious.
- Pqwerty seemed to have no read on OLU, despite the earlier conversation.
Reasons Flower/Pqwerty is Town:
- Flower has been very active and has provided a lot of content, even if some of it is based on meta.
- Pqwerty has expressed skepticism about the number of protective roles in the game, which could be a genuine town concern.
- Pqwerty has provided a list of scum reads, even if it's not fully developed.
- Flower was later replaced by Pqwerty.
- Pqwerty made a post that could be seen as town-motivated, trying to understand the reasoning behind previous votes.
VERDICT: Leaning SCUM.
Mr. Reloaded
Reasons Mr. Reloaded is Town:
- He claimed to be a conditional Vig, which could be a genuine attempt to be transparent.
- His posts have become more game-related as Day 2 progresses.
Reasons Mr. Reloaded is Mafia:
- His early posts were mostly jokes and off-topic chatter.
- His claim of being a conditional Vig could be a way to avoid scrutiny or to set up a fake claim later.
VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.
One Last Username
Reasons One Last Username is Town:
- They were lynched on Day 1 and flipped as Bella, a town role with a 1-shot ability to destroy another player's one-shot ability. This confirms them as town.
Reasons One Last Username is Mafia:
- N/A
VERDICT: Confirmed TOWN.
Luka
Reasons Luka is Town:
- Has been actively engaging in discussions and questioning other players' reasoning.
- Has expressed genuine frustration with the game and with specific players' actions.
- Has provided a list of scum reads, even if it's based on limited information.
- Has pointed out inconsistencies in other players' arguments and actions.
Reasons Luka is Mafia:
- Their defense of Flower could be seen as a wolf trying to protect a teammate.
- Their focus on The X's actions could be a way to deflect suspicion from their own actions.
- His claim that the other players were not giving reasons for their suspicions on The X could be interpreted as a wolf trying to defend a teammate.
VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.
Ali
Reasons Ali is Mafia:
Reasons Ali is Town:
- Claimed to be a Tracker, which could be a lie to gain town's trust.
- Their reaction to being questioned by Sparkles could be seen as defensive and evasive.
- His explanation for targeting Sigi on Night 1 (because he didn't visit anyone) could be seen as a weak justification.
- His reads are inconsistent, originally claiming to have town reads on Dr. Professor83 and The X, then later claiming not to have any reads.
- Has been actively participating in discussions and trying to explain his reasoning.
- Has expressed genuine frustration with the way the game is going.
- Has provided a tracker result that could potentially clear Sigismund.
VERDICT: Leaning SCUM.
Sparkles
Reasons Sparkles is Town:
Reasons Sparkles is Mafia:
- Has been actively engaging in discussions and questioning other players' reasoning.
- Has expressed genuine frustration with the way the game is going.
- Has provided some analysis of the game state, even if it's not always accurate.
- She's been proactive in trying to get claims from players and has been trying to push for lynches she believes are beneficial for the town.
- She claimed one shot cop, which is a risky claim for scum to make unless they have a good reason to believe they can get away with it.
- Her immediate acceptance of Dr. Professor83 as a "protagonist" (even if intended to be humorous) could be seen as a wolf trying to pocket a townie.
- Her push for Ali's lynch could be an attempt to eliminate a townie who suspects them.
- She has made several posts that could be interpreted as trying to manipulate the town's perception of the game state, such as suggesting that there might be too many protective roles.
VERDICT: Leaning TOWN.
Chills...SORT
Sigismund
Dr_Professor83
Sparkles
Luka
Mr. Reloaded
Flower/Pqwerty
The X
Ali
Pot Goblin
Me typing into ChatGPT: “make a case for me why Pqwety is scum”It's a damning case, if I do say so myself.
Prof and Sparkles wanted Ali or Always D1.all im gonna say tho is my wagon had 2 votes D1 and everyone was sus of it yesterday and everyone is sus of it today.
Like I should've been voted out yesterday and I feel like you, Sparkles, and Prif certainly had enough pull to make ppl go my way over OLU.
I'm not saying all 3 of you are scum, but isn't it possible that scum snuck in to that towncore and was so confident they'd be watched/wouldn't get tracked that they chose a kill that keeps all the top trs alive and leaves ppl relatively unchanged with their POE?
He’s using AI lol.
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