• We're looking for artists. Direct message Dr. Watson for more info!

Game Ranked Tales of Arise Mafia - Game Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
So, the permutations are that killing Fuji only makes sense if the indie can win tonight. If I'm scum, then I know I have RDK primed and ready to hammer with me to win. So I don't need to kill Fuji to get his cores. If it's just RDK as the only non-town left though, he knows that he will get exposed once Fuji isn't speed hammered. Now from here he has two options. He waits it out and hopes paranoia gets me speedlynched. Or he kills Fuji and removes the angle where he gets outed. Does that make sense?

My assumption would be he either wins tonight by double kill/stealing etc or he's just making the most of a tough to win position and needs 2 lynches anyway.

@Poyser for your consideration too

This doesnt quite absolve you because in the world where youre scum, youd optimally want to kill RDK to remove an x factor after hammering fuji today - therefore the net result of the timeline is exactly the same
 
wtf u talking about ratchy

from ur PoV this guy shud have straight up lied to ur face and u shud just yeet him on that principle alone

im resisting my inner demons over here to not yeet you

lets get this phase over with asap before my demons win
My vote is on him. It is not me who I need to convince, it's one of Poyser or Gram.
 
This doesnt quite absolve you because in the world where youre scum, youd optimally want to kill RDK to remove an x factor after hammering fuji today - therefore the net result of the timeline is exactly the same
I would be working with him to win - historically that has always been the case. I will shoot what I need to kill to win. And I would have no reason to even really care about his role after we lynch Fuji - I'd be about to win. Lynching RDK doesn't further my scum win at all, either.
 
I would be working with him to win - historically that has always been the case. I will shoot what I need to kill to win. And I would have no reason to even really care about his role after we lynch Fuji - I'd be about to win. Lynching RDK doesn't further my scum win at all, either.

But this implies you know all of his capabilities - hes an indy and thus an unreliable narrator
 
As scum I kill Poyser/Ekko last night, hammer Fuji and kill the other the following night. That collects all the cores.
RDK however still has 3 people he needs to hammer or kill. And he would know I'm town, so he knows I won't be lynching Fuji. With Fuji not being counted on as a lynch, he needs to either kill him, or lynch him F3. He knows I have no cores.

So he has 4 chances to gain cores left including last night. And he has three people with cores. So his order would have to be kill Ekko/Poyser, hope that Ekko/Poyser (whomever survives) speedlynches me today, and then kills the other, and then lynches Fuji in F3. That's viable, but his thinking here will have been that if Poyser/Ekko don't speedlynch, he is outed because there is no lynch from me on Fuji. So to avoid that, he kills Fuji. From there, his path is difficult, but I don't know the full details of his role so I can't say he has no way to win tonight. Even if he doesn't, he may have decided needing to get two mislynches is easier than relying on a speedlynch.

In any case, this is a kill that only works, if you assume it is being played to a win con, if it comes from him. It would be mere style points from me.
TL;DR As long as you assume that the Fuji kill had some goal in mind, it makes no sense ever to have come from me. It was a mistake from RDK IMO - he should have gambled on you guys speedlynching me.
 
As scum I kill Poyser/Ekko last night, hammer Fuji and kill the other the following night. That collects all the cores.
RDK however still has 3 people he needs to hammer or kill. And he would know I'm town, so he knows I won't be lynching Fuji. With Fuji not being counted on as a lynch, he needs to either kill him, or lynch him F3. He knows I have no cores.

So he has 4 chances to gain cores left including last night. And he has three people with cores. So his order would have to be kill Ekko/Poyser, hope that Ekko/Poyser (whomever survives) speedlynches me today, and then kills the other, and then lynches Fuji in F3. That's viable, but his thinking here will have been that if Poyser/Ekko don't speedlynch, he is outed because there is no lynch from me on Fuji. So to avoid that, he kills Fuji. From there, his path is difficult, but I don't know the full details of his role so I can't say he has no way to win tonight. Even if he doesn't, he may have decided needing to get two mislynches is easier than relying on a speedlynch.

In any case, this is a kill that only works, if you assume it is being played to a win con, if it comes from him. It would be mere style points from me.
genuinely wtf r u doing
 
But this implies you know all of his capabilities - hes an indy and thus an unreliable narrator
But if I'm scum, I can be reasonably confident he's just a survivor. Possibly would have copped him earlier in the game to check. But 5 scum, or 4 plus Serial plus a Survivor, plus a Hated townie? Not very plausible. And if my wincon is core collecting like RDK is claiming it is (due to me having 4 cores) then I just win once I have the last core anyway.
 
But this implies you know all of his capabilities - hes an indy and thus an unreliable narrator
Tbf if ratchet is scum then his only real hope would be to trust haza is telling the truth and hope for the best. He’s never getting me you or Ekko lynched
 
TL;DR As long as you assume that the Fuji kill had some goal in mind, it makes no sense ever to have come from me. It was a mistake from RDK IMO - he should have gambled on you guys speedlynching me.
we cant make speculation about it based on threadplay. this is something to do with the remaining scum roles which is information we dont have

that or you are wifoming this

all of these posts r u making now look like u prewrote them as a defense and is now surprised people arent really pushing you as u expected, yet you post them anyway

they feel very out of place :hestonpls
 
Basically with all the info on the table I'm either flexing here or it's just RDK. There does not exist a plausible scenario where I'm scum doing this under some kind of overarching goal. It doesn't line up with the pieces you have.
 
you know what

ratchet is locked town guys, he's the towniest town in history of town

lets yeet RDK and call it a day
 
we cant make speculation about it based on threadplay. this is something to do with the remaining scum roles which is information we dont have

that or you are wifoming this

all of these posts r u making now look like u prewrote them as a defense and is now surprised people arent really pushing you as u expected, yet you post them anyway

they feel very out of place :hestonpls
You don't need to bother engaging with them - they're not for you.
 
i mean if u guys wud have waited yesterday id have been to find aurelian town for u. just need him to reply

anyway RDK clearly saw the writing on the wall and decided to hammer to get ahead of it. combine that with him not using his role to help end the game as soon as possible tells me clearly he isnt a survivor that wants this to end asap like he claims in thread

if ratchet's scum then it's entirely RDK's fault for trolling town late game and like i said i want to set a precedence for future with a 0 tolerance policy to any indie funny business
 
Sorry for the questions, ive paid no attention to the core stuff for now cause I was assuming they were red herrings
Basically RDK claims I have 4 cores. So any role or wincon I have would have to come from or be based upon them. This in addition to him being able to find them. Just from a design standpoint - a wincon that needs these cores having the ability to check if a player has them makes more sense than it not having this. But anyway. If I have 4 then my goal is to get the last two. I would have had two going into the night yesterday. So I kill Poyser/Ekko, and then I have 3. I lynch Fuji with RDK, and then I have 5. I kill the other of Poyser/Ekko, and then I have 6.
 
did aurelian have a core?
core of darkness history: started with CP, taken when sparkle killed him, then taken by flower when she dueled out sparkle, then lastly came to me when i hammered flower

core of fire history: started and is still in poyser's ownership

core of earth history: started with gad, transferred to fuji when he hammered gad, transferred to RDK when he killed fuji

core of water history: started with fuji, transferred to RDK when he killed fuji

core of light history: started with saber, transferred to lethal when he killed saber, then transferred to RDK when he killed lethal

core of wind history: missing. presumably started with RDK since the beginning, or with aurelian and was taken by RDK when he hammered aurelian


its also possible the cores are with ratchet btw, but i wanna stack the deck against RDK to get him yeeted
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top