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To Aru Majutsu No Index Feats/Discussion/Analysis Thread - One Othinus To Rule Them All

Tezcatlipoca created spears of light described like the stars in the sky, not actually stars that he bombarded Nephthys and Niang Niang with
 
White Queen from Unexplored Summon Blood Sign with those Multiversal+ gains.



She’s stronger than Othinus both in two crossovers including one where she outright kills a then confirmed full power Othinus at the time as well as in Blood Sign itself where Othinus is summoned in a whole class lower than her.

And in general she’s one of the most overpowered entities Kamachi has ever put in a book.
 
Nope

@Mr.OMG This it?

 
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Alright, let clear some things up, showing irrefutable proof and even more importantly, putting to rest decade long hoaxes about Magic Gods and the cosmology of the verse.
All the following quotes are taken straight from Baka Tsuki’s js06’s translation of the series + one translation taken straight from Japanese at the end.

Toaru’s Cosmology is made up of Phases


The other important thing to consider is what world is in this context.



Phases are referred to as worlds and dimensions based on Curtana Original.


Also according to Curtana Original, there’s as many Phases / dimensions as what can be counted with whole numbers




Quoting one more piece of information again because it’s important for the next part

Assuming it could hit, that extraordinary power could penetrate the barrier between worlds and kill a being lurking in a different phase… for example, Holy Guardian Angel Aiwass who stayed in the layer of physical laws at the very bottom.

This specific part disproves the notion I often hear of the Pure World being the one universe of the setting while Phases are just layers over it. This is blatantly false as Carissa or Queen Elizard within the universe their in are cutting through countless dimensional barriers in order to reach the universe Aiwass resides in. Aiwass in turn is an extra-dimensional Angel who can’t even properly exist in the universe without first being summoned and with preparations to be able to manifest

Coronzon confirming both the main setting’s universe and the Pure World are all Phases too.


TL;DR The Pure World is the Phase / Layer at the very bottom / center where all the other Phases revolve around. Coronzon destroying the Pure World would cause all the other Phases to lose their stability and the slight bumps and scapes between Phases from before which already twist the laws of cause and effect and create future changing phenomenon in the series will become full on collisions and simultaneous destruction between Phases

Think this pretty much sums up everything that needs to be known about Phases. Now to Othinus and other Magic God feats:



Othinus controlling every Phase at once, controlling and remaking existing universes or creating new ones.




^ To further explain the above context, Thor is comparing his own command over the world as Almighty Thor to the range and scope of Othinus. And Almighty Thor makes him the Magic side equivalent of a Holistic Esper




Othinus destroying every Phase at once



Once more reiterated that she destroyed (almost) every Phase at that the black void left behind is the result of destroying every Phase, meaning she’s done this multiple times throughout NT9


Rest of the Magic Gods are far stronger than her and reside the last remaining Phase even she couldn’t reach.




Said Phase is so vast, even the slightest gaps extend infinitely since anything less would be insufficient to contain True Magic Gods




Magic Gods need to reduce their power infinitely to put themselves down to such a level where they don’t destroy the universe they step into by moving a limb


And finally, to put the “Kamachi says there’s only one universe!!” hoax to rest

The following comes from NT13’s epilogue:

Another Possible Beginning — The_End_is_Named...

And it’s when Kamisato confronts Nephthys and uses World Rejector on her and we get this exchange:

“You can’t. You can’t possibly. Parallel worlds don’t-…”

“Yes, the world is ultimately a straight line like the rubber string nailed onto pachinko machines. There is no infinite expanse of parallel worlds.

^ This is the js06 translation that’s been bandwagoned for over a decade now to argue that Kamachi said there are no parallel worlds (completely ignoring every other feat and statements that say otherwise.)

But now we know for sure that no such thing was said.



並行する世界が無限にある訳じゃない.

"Heikō suru sekai ga mugen ni aru wake janai"

“There are not an infinite number of parallel worlds.”

^ It’s not there are no Parallel Worlds that was stated, just that there isn’t an infinite amount of them in the sense that they don’t occupy every spot of the infinite expanse of the settings multiverse. Even with the endless Phases that make up the verse, there’s still unused space in between them.

World Rejectors takes advantage of those still unused spaces between worlds to send people to, and said unused space becomes its own isolated timeline.


The unused space becoming it’s own isolated timeline.

Those two were true Magic Gods. So who in this isolated timeline could concern them?



And likewise, Nephthys herself also never denied the existence of parallel worlds, here’s the above exchange translated from the Japanese text

Nephthys: i can't believe it. The parallel world is...
Kamisato: Yeah, they don't exist infinitely.

^ Credit to Piamma for this part

And that concludes my thread. Any questions?

 
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Fuck it. Since we don't have someone who speaks Japanese here on the forum I went with the next best thing. An Ai

So here ya go

And just for added context

Could this be wrong? Who knows, is it coherent? Yeah. Should we wait for someone to fact check the ai? 100%
 
時間は一本道だ。
過去も現在も未来もつながっている. パラレルワールドとは、 多くの世界があるの ではない. 時間というゴムヒモを、パチンコ台のように 無数の釘を打った台の.「どこの釘』に引っかけていくか、という事で しかない

Quote from the game if anyone is interested