Transformers feats/discussion

grillmaster said:

completely unrelated to scaling but i actually like this bit of music
it plays a lot for unicron idk what its called

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May 18, 2015​

Q: Dear Vector Prime,

As the Guardian of Time and Space you should know the Dark Spark, which is also capable of travel between times and places. Cybertronians in both Uniend and Tyran had theories but didn't know for sure what it is and where it comes from. So what exactly is the Dark Spark, who created it and why does it have so much power?
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A: Dear Dabbler in Darkness,

If you will pardon the pun, I am as in the dark as they are. I have never personally encountered this malevolent force. Perhaps it is the dark essence of the Chaos Bringer himself, a focused matrix of Angolmois energy. Perhaps it is a fragment of the D-Void, dripping with the strange and necromantic energies of the Dead Universe. Perhaps it was once a Matrix of Leadership, corrupted by Violen Jiger and unleashed on the Multiverse as a weapon. Perhaps it is the essence of Megatron himself, from a timeline where his plot to assimilate all of the sparks on Cybertron was not foiled by Optimus Primal's Maximals. Perhaps some fragment of Mortilus survived to the current age to sow destruction. Perhaps it is an artifact created by the sinister Ebon Knights in their inscrutable service to the Elder Gods. In the end, what matters is that good bots stand against it, and never allow it to fall into the hands of those who would use it to subjugate others.

What is certain is that it is a force most powerful. It was the Dark Spark which punched through the quantum membrane separating the Uniend Cluster from the rest of the Multiverse, causing significant dimensional bleed and allowing for the TransTech to begin to build the taxonomy of its various streams.

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grillmaster said:

oh yeah also this funny ass highlight i should share



The Dark Spark was able to pierce the barrier separating the Uniend cluster from the rest of the multiverse

Vector actively points out how powerful this is while also giving his guesses as to where the Dark Spark came from, his candidates being:

a fragment of the D-Void (?????)
a victorious Beast Machines Megatron (implying absorbing all the sparks of his universes cybertron would wield that kind of power)
Mortilus (???)
Unicron (of course)
Violen Jiger (!?!?!?!?)
Ebon Knights (sure)

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grillmaster said:

oh yeah also this funny ass highlight i should share



The Dark Spark was able to pierce the barrier separating the Uniend cluster from the rest of the multiverse

Vector actively points out how powerful this is while also giving his guesses as to where the Dark Spark came from, his candidates being:

a fragment of the D-Void (?????)
a victorious Beast Machines Megatron (implying absorbing all the sparks of his universes cybertron would wield that kind of power)
Mortilus (???)
Unicron (of course)
Violen Jiger (!?!?!?!?)
Ebon Knights (sure)

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Thirteen prime said:

By the way, logically, the tree of life can be comparable or even superior to the Omniverse?
And can thirteen Primes influence or be at the level of existence of the tree of life?
@OtherGalaxy
@grillmaster

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grillmaster said:

Я говорю, что какой-то случайный мужчина собирается получить случайное обновление мультивселенной+-мегавселенной

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grillmaster said:

Vector was within the Allspark/The Crown (the top of the tree, which we never actually reach in Ablyss) when he sensed Galvatron being pulled back to reality and so he jumped in to intervene and fight him

The Crown is possibly superior the Astral Plane or is relative to it at the very least, i lean toward it being relative as obviously thats where Primus' astral form manifested when he was fighting Unicron, before he trapped both of them in corporeal forms in the multiverse

idk about the Tree necessarily being Omniversal, personally i think it kind of depends on your definition of Omniversal
this is about to be a tangent but bigger than infinity cosmology stuff is super confusing and im pretty sure OG made a thread on it a while back

however, i will say, if you mean Omniversal as in just being somewhere beyond Megaversal...
i think the TF cosmology could get you there, possibly

so just one universe produces an uncountable infinity of branches, which iirc i asked OG and thatd be an extra cardinality up, so
universe+branches= multiverse+ - megaversal+
theres infinite of these universes in a cluster= megaversal++
theres like a dozen known clusters, and honestly theres probably clusters we havent seen but this is the low end, thats still multiple sets of infinite megaverses at LEAST

theres 17-22 higher dimensions each containing universes just like those beneath it
and then the Tree of Life is so vastly beyond all of that that it isnt even real by comparison, and thats all before you even REACH The Crown/Allspark

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Thirteen prime said:

I mean the Omniverse of Transformers and not a definition, and there can be much more dimensions since, as Vector Prime states, there are the wildest universes that have uncountable infinite dimensions, and this despite the fact that dimension and reality in this context are two different phenomena.View attachment 1782

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grillmaster said:

or i could just invoke this page and refuse to elaborate that works too

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