Transformers feats/discussion

[grillmaster]

mountain level megatron confirmed multiple times
i know this top scan has been posted before but i just wanted to pair it with this one

at a minimum i suppose this gives us Megatrons general DC, if not quite his full AP
so mountain level DC, not bad i think
edit: once again i just noticed even more mentions of particle beam weaponry as part of megatrons arsenal

 

[Crimson Dragoon]

i find it funny that Megatron while insane with brain damage is still > Predaking, and Galvatron obliterates the same Megatron (but less damaged) with superficial damage done to himself, and then he or Galvatron II (cant remember which) goes on to fight Piranacon (who going by his absurd bios lifting feat should be like 8,000x stronger than Predaking, which sounds ridiculous to me but thats g1 bios for ya) and then he steamrolls him UNDERWATER

i did actually have some absurd G1 cartoon stuff that i saw going through the episode scripts and summaries a while ago that i should get around to sharing the scans of, theyre absolutely insane and mostly just funny but do provide context to some scenes

Worth noting that the same Piranacon Galvatron beat was lifting Scorponok’s ship and was going to destroy it

 

[grillmaster]

Worth noting that the same Piranacon Galvatron beat was lifting Scorponok’s ship and was going to destroy it

oh god damn, i was wondering if piranacons strength was maybe just a typo its so egregious, but i guess its canon now lmao

 

[grillmaster]

food for thought;
the existence of Kiloton, Megatron, and Gigatron(Overlord), implies the existence of Teratron, Exatron, Zettatron, and Yottatron
should Megatrons be a unit of measurement, like Henry the 8ths foot

 

[grillmaster]

megatron being able to "atomize" his enemies at close enough range
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just out of curiosity, how do we treat molecular or atomic attack exactly, this adds up with megatron having a "particle beam cannon" as well as many other cybertronians having particle beam weaponry, which breaks down enemies on a molecular/atomic level, or what about like the molecular cannon, obliterating a moon down to protons
im curious, as this applies to lots of cybertronians, seemingly its a standard part of their arsenal

I just remembered these, i forgot to add them to the list of cybertronian weapons

Decrystallizer cannon - Transformers Wiki

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Glass gas - Transformers Wiki

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lol cliffjumper that is not how glass gas is meant to work
not to mention Galvatron's particle cannon

 

[grillmaster]

I really wish we knew how much stronger Galvatron actually is than Megatron, i think you could go by comparing him to Powermaster Prime, who is 4x stronger than standard optimus

problem is, its hard to gauge galvatrons performance here, considering hes damaged and insane, hallucinating the whole time

we do know that Galvatron II in Alignment, lacking the crippling insanity of the original Galvatron, is able to come back and destroy an upgraded G2 Megatron, before setting about having a fleet of Warworlds built, but again the problem comes up that we dont know how strong G2 Megatron is to the original, and Galvatron II is defeated in a near mutual kill by Optimus, but we don't know how much stronger he got either

 

[grillmaster]

one of my favorite, most nonsensical feats in the series

 

[grillmaster]

I really wish we knew how much stronger Galvatron actually is than Megatron, i think you could go by comparing him to Powermaster Prime, who is 4x stronger than standard optimus

problem is, its hard to gauge galvatrons performance here, considering hes damaged and insane, hallucinating the whole time

we do know that Galvatron II in Alignment, lacking the crippling insanity of the original Galvatron, is able to come back and destroy an upgraded G2 Megatron, before setting about having a fleet of Warworlds built, but again the problem comes up that we dont know how strong G2 Megatron is to the original, and Galvatron II is defeated in a near mutual kill by Optimus, but we don't know how much stronger he got either

this is part of what i mean by us needing some sort of tiers or something, at least without mixing continuities it could be somewhat more comprehensible, maybe if we went through we could find a placement, but thatd probably take a while to go through the marvel comics
so far, Galvatron > Piranacon > ?
Galvatron > Megatron >= Predaking
times like this make me wish tech spec stats actually made sense, maybe then theyd be finally useful for something

 

[OtherGalaxy]

expecting a single god damn thing in Transformers to make sense

 

[Thirteen prime]

Megatron once stood directly between Earth and Cyberton, experiencing their gravitational pull, which reaches trillions of tons of magnetic pull. All without a single scratch.

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Internal series tier lists shouldn’t be too hard though. Marvel will be the hardest, as long as IDW is, it’s actually pretty straightforward on tiering (D-Void/Shockwave>Titans>Phase Sixers>everybody else basically). Havent finished Dreamwave yet, but what I’ve read wasn’t super impressive anyways thus far

 

[grillmaster]

expecting a single god damn thing in Transformers to make sense

if you think about it, its possible at one point in time that we never got to see it all did make perfect sense, and the confusion is just more unicron singularity nonsense fucking up canon

 

[grillmaster]

Internal series tier lists shouldn’t be too hard though. Marvel will be the hardest, as long as IDW is, it’s actually pretty straightforward on tiering (D-Void/Shockwave>Titans>Phase Sixers>everybody else basically). Havent finished Dreamwave yet, but what I’ve read wasn’t super impressive anyways thus far

dreamwave having my boy superion die to a nuke man

 

[Thirteen prime]

I really wish we knew how much stronger Galvatron actually is than Megatron, i think you could go by comparing him to Powermaster Prime, who is 4x stronger than standard optimus

problem is, its hard to gauge galvatrons performance here, considering hes damaged and insane, hallucinating the whole time

we do know that Galvatron II in Alignment, lacking the crippling insanity of the original Galvatron, is able to come back and destroy an upgraded G2 Megatron, before setting about having a fleet of Warworlds built, but again the problem comes up that we dont know how strong G2 Megatron is to the original, and Galvatron II is defeated in a near mutual kill by Optimus, but we don't know how much stronger he got either

The funny thing is that the powermaster, even without amplification by a trader, is about 10 times superior to its basic counterpart.

Basic Optimus suffered Megatron's anti-matter blast, which destroyed everything within a few miles.

 

[grillmaster]

The funny thing is that the powermaster, even without amplification by a trader, is about 10 times superior to its basic counterpart.
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Basic Optimus suffered Megatron's anti-matter blast, which destroyed everything within a few miles.View attachment 1127

thank you for this man, i didnt even know about that scan, i was going off of his character bio stating when he combines with his trailer his strength is quadrupled
not me applying multipliers to powerscale tf characters
imagine, powermaster makes prime 10x stronger, and while i dont recall how much apex armor multiplies his strength by, god ginrai is a 5x amp on top of super ginrai if i remember correctly
wait a minute 5x10 = 50


now we add super energon weapons being 10-20 times stronger than normal

 

[Thirteen prime]

By the way, idw Optimus seems to defeat sixshot, and as stated, he is holding back somewhat.

IDW Publishing Forums :: View topic - SIMON FURMAN - Q&A Nov/Dec 2008 - ANSWERS UP NOW!!!

 

[grillmaster]

By the way, idw Optimus seems to defeat sixshot, and as stated, he is holding back somewhat.

IDW Publishing Forums :: View topic - SIMON FURMAN - Q&A Nov/Dec 2008 - ANSWERS UP NOW!!!

optimus prime world of cardboard speech when

 

[grillmaster]

Internal series tier lists shouldn’t be too hard though. Marvel will be the hardest, as long as IDW is, it’s actually pretty straightforward on tiering (D-Void/Shockwave>Titans>Phase Sixers>everybody else basically). Havent finished Dreamwave yet, but what I’ve read wasn’t super impressive anyways thus far

but yeah internal series tier lists was mainly what i was thinking, the multiverse is way too massive and variable to throw them in all at once
this also theoretically means if i were mentally deranged enough i could make a tier list for toy tech specs
i know scorponok can crush mountains in his claws and idk of any higher standard feats mentioned so hes up there, and jetfire is actually leader tier in terms of stats, at least iirc

 

[grillmaster]

The funny thing is that the powermaster, even without amplification by a trader, is about 10 times superior to its basic counterpart.
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Basic Optimus suffered Megatron's anti-matter blast, which destroyed everything within a few miles.View attachment 1127

ayo wait i just reread this again and i realized, it turned the optimus prime 4000,000 pounds typo and made it real
i was confused what you meant by him being 10 times stronger without the trailer at first, i forgot that error was there
so normal optimus is 200 tons (really closer to 500 at least going by megatron throwing that dump truck while running on fumes)
then his normal form post powermaster boost is 2,000 tons
then he gets 10x stronger AGAIN, 20,000 tons
and with apex armor i suppose hed finally be 100,000 tons
god damn
edit: i remember reading somewhere that apex armor/godbomber was 5x boost on top of the super mode, i wish i could find it but im struggling rn, i know its a bit funky to use what i think was godbombers boost for the apex armor, but theyre literally the same thing translated to the US, the same way G1 Gigatron is just Overlord before they called him Overlord in the US
also cause if we're being real the ginrai body was meant for optimus anyway iirc

 

[grillmaster]

I remember thinking this fight was so funny, galvatron runs armada megs for his foams, megatron only survives because he gets the fucking star saber air dropped to his location and then he stands up afterwards talking shit like he thinks hes him
bro like less than a minute ago galvatron was feeding you the dirt like he was about to feed unicron your universe

also if someone has the deets on armada megs' scaling w/ leader 1, along with the star saber, that'd be nice