Transformers feats/discussion

[grillmaster]

so this is the Omega Wave (Omega Whip is a mistranslation) Cannon

its an enormous electromagnetic cannon, which shown here destroys an entire city in one shot
the entire city is being magnetically ripped asunder and swirling around a giant sphere (i assume a literal death ball of magnetic fuckery)

 

[grillmaster]

im skipping through this a little bit, but the cannon actually gets used to target superion

he is hit dead on multiple times and survives, fighting on through SHEER FORCE OF WILL (japanese transformers moment)
he is damaged however and rendered unable of changing his configuration to defend against menasor, but things work out
a girl... seduces starscream?? hugs him and makes him drop his guard??? i dont understand this, but she puts a thing on him to mind control him and he blows up the cannon, and then metroplex shows up and the autobots just bum rush the decepticons

 

[Doronbo_Shirake]

19:35

In the Japanese version, A.I says that Blizzard Storm shoots ice particles at sound speed. The explosion is impressive, with Sky-byte surviving it.

 

[Doronbo_Shirake]

i wonder if its possible to find the speed of the missile and nexus from this btw

Maybe sound speed or light speed?
The thing with the missile reminds me of Ohranger, where Baranoia has a missile that can destroy the sun.

 

[grillmaster]

im skipping through this a little bit, but the cannon actually gets used to target superion

he is hit dead on multiple times and survives, fighting on through SHEER FORCE OF WILL (japanese transformers moment)
he is damaged however and rendered unable of changing his configuration to defend against menasor, but things work out
a girl... seduces starscream?? hugs him and makes him drop his guard??? i dont understand this, but she puts a thing on him to mind control him and he blows up the cannon, and then metroplex shows up and the autobots just bum rush the decepticons

i mention this as in the Animated Almanacs, we find the Animated version of Kalis' Lament

Kalis' Lament (Animated) - Transformers Wiki

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The Kalis' Lament is one of the Thanatos-class of starships that the Decepticons have built after they lost the Great War. It is the personal starship of Strika. While not as powerful as older ships such as the Nemesis, they are still potent. They are armed with eight omega whip cannons, starblitz torpedoes, and energy shields, which are unfortunately not that effective due to the ship's small size. The size, however, does permit them to reach unmatched acceleration.

Cool detail I like, its named the Thanatos-class, after Razorclaw's ship in Stormbringer, it even has Starblitz torpedoes
In Stormbringer, Razorclaw was under orders from Megatron to use them to destroy Cybertron if he had to in order to stop Thunderwing

 

[grillmaster]

on the note of references as well, the Nemesis in Animated is named a Doomsday-class warship, the Doomsday being the flagship of the Decepticons in Transformers Armada

it was only named in Micron Legend however

 

[grillmaster]

i just thought about this, have we seen any calcs of the destruction of moonbase 2?
could be pretty nuts for scaling, considering unicron quite literally eats the explosion

 

[grillmaster]

moonbase two is the larger moon next to cybertron

 

[OtherGalaxy]

it's funny that the autobots also just already had their moon rigged to self destruct

why the fuck would you do that???

 

[grillmaster]

okay doing pixel measurements i got a size for the moon of 1,440.4 kilometers in diameter
not bad, not bad
now the troublesome part, mass

 

[grillmaster]

it's funny that the autobots also just already had their moon rigged to self destruct

why the fuck would you do that???

in fairness, the decepticons were right next door

 

[grillmaster]

okay doing pixel measurements i got a size for the moon of 1,440.4 kilometers in diameter
not bad, not bad
now the troublesome part, mass

i got a mass of 1.236161039589056e+22 kg as a low end (assume that moonbase two actually does have gravity generators of some kind; i do not assume this for cybertron because cybertron is a decimated wasteland and they would not have had any energon for that at the time

 

[grillmaster]

i just thought about this, have we seen any calcs of the destruction of moonbase 2?
could be pretty nuts for scaling, considering unicron quite literally eats the explosion

okay this
this is fucking insanity
so going frame by frame, going from the beams of light of the explosion, the first elements of debris reach the screen four frames after
the film presumably runs at 24 FPS
the actual fireball of the blast that we see takes two frames, but its entirely possible it was slowed down because it was half consumed by unicron, but in those two frames it explodes out so fast its almost as big as unicron himself

 

[grillmaster]

this is certainly


a method of doing this



look it was either this or trying to angsize the camera or something i cant do all that rn

 

[grillmaster]

using the edge here. it went 52 pixels, in 4 frames
312 pixels per second debris speed
17,284 km per second
17,284,800 m/s

Using low end, calculated mass (1.236161039589056e+22 kg):
1.8466040066366E36 J (441.348 Yottatons, round up maybe to 441.35 if you wish idk, but I think Large Planet Level)

High end (using earth mass because lmao):
8.9270776138752E+38 J (213 Ronnatons, or Dwarf Star level)

 

[grillmaster]

whichever you believe is more accurate, im tending toward the lower end though if you wanna be absurd you could use the high one, considering spike walks around in his exosuit seemingly without any magnetism going on so you could argue its got earth mass, but its so small and he needs an exosuit so i really doubt that

scaling wise the high end would fit with the high tier characters at least, but its so shaky eerghhhh

 

[grillmaster]

either way its huge scaling for unicron since i just went off of the explosion that WE SAW, it COULD be stronger than this but unicron ate like 90% of it

 

[grillmaster]

Unicron tanked this with 0 damage, it didnt even smudge his armor with looney toons soot or anything, meanwhile later in the film we see he is able to inflict physical damage upon himself with his bare hands, meaning his AP is obviously higher than this explosion
and obviously, the matrix was able to blow him the fuck apart, ACTUALLY WAIT I COULD CALCULATE UNICRONS DESTRUCTION
IT NEVER ENDS

 

[grillmaster]

for anyone wondering, i did try to calculate it, only its faster than the speed of light and was thus immeasurable lmfao

 

[grillmaster]

so this is the Omega Wave (Omega Whip is a mistranslation) Cannon

its an enormous electromagnetic cannon, which shown here destroys an entire city in one shot
the entire city is being magnetically ripped asunder and swirling around a giant sphere (i assume a literal death ball of magnetic fuckery)

i wonder if its possible to calculate the strength of this magnetic field, that looks insane