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TYPE-Moon/Nasuverse Feats/General Thread - People Die If They Are Killed Edition

So yeah, it confirms a few things:

1) Narita basically turned Alcides completely into Wankpachi. It was well known but it's fully documented now that's the case.

2) Reincarnation Pandora legit has no limits to what it can steal compared to what we believed beforehand(Where it could only do Noble Phantasms, stealing a Divine Core completely is a whole ass different can of worms)

3) So even in it's death throes, Gugulanna is well above Planetary+
 
yeah, and it probably scales to Alter Ego Gil at least, cuz he just straight up crushes Alcides with the bull's power with a hand later on iirc
 
i do wanna wait for comun to translate the shit 'fore sayin anythin' for sure, but yeah, it's not surprising. alter ego gil's prolly the strongest fucker left in the war atm
 
since he's some version of Gil that completed his journey w/out Enkidu (if im remembering You's summary right), he might just be straight up stronger than Archer Gil. if the big events stay the same, he 1 v. 1'd Humbaba and the Bull, maybe w/out Ea or the Chains cuz he straight up removed his divinity at some point
 
To go on another topic, I finished the Event and hilariously, Nasu and the writers most likely decided that they REALLY wanted to just go tell SB and other downplayers to go fuck themselves lol(While proving their words in the Sea Monsters Event was true):

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The Event takes place in the Singularities that are the mythological Ryukyu Islands which is stated to be an Archipelago. Right before this, Tametomo and Super Orion basically clash NPs(Tametomo with his "2nd shot" and Super Orion with Artemis Agnos) and their clash was so powerful, some of the leftover energy actually destroyed 3 Islands and caused a horrific, damn near unending storm at Shimousa:

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While Tametomo did have the energy from the Holy Beads to do this, they never actually powered up his shots, just basically gave him the energy to basically augment his arrows to absolutely insane degrees(Basically being able to adapt while still being in flight to absolutely ludicrous degrees from multiple different fighters).
It got to the point William Tell was the only one able to destroy the final arrow BECAUSE his shot cannot miss under any circumstances(Thank you conceptual bullshit).

Tametomo in his boss battle even has a line that comes off similar to what Machine God Artemis can do which is relevant since he is the remains of her Machine God form. So yeah, Event basically gave the biggest fuck you it can to downplayers(Who will still try anyway):

Anti-Army Noble Phantasms can destroy Archipelagos because Tametomo's aftershocks literally blew up 3 islands and completely fucked over a 4th, Orion is still nonsense for being able to fuck it up to that degree and even Fusehime gets some kudos which makes sense considering how the whole thing started and whose it's connected to.
 
i do wanna wait for comun to translate the shit 'fore sayin anythin' for sure, but yeah, it's not surprising. alter ego gil's prolly the strongest fucker left in the war atm
since he's some version of Gil that completed his journey w/out Enkidu (if im remembering You's summary right), he might just be straight up stronger than Archer Gil. if the big events stay the same, he 1 v. 1'd Humbaba and the Bull, maybe w/out Ea or the Chains cuz he straight up removed his divinity at some point

Aw great, is he gonna make ANOTHER Wankpachi? Alcides was already ridiculous and Heretic Hassan was pushing it as is...
 
unno. ain't none of those parts translated, but You says that this version of Gil basically exists as a system to raise humans to the level of gods, and i don't think Narita's talkin metaphorically
 
I can get it, I guess...
Gilgamesh was made to tether humans to the Age Of The Gods, Alter-Ego Gil, if he's a What If of who Gilgamesh is like the Alter-Ego Class should be.
He would absolutely be the one who decided not just follow through with it, but make them become gods to fit his parameters in his own ridiculous way.
 
tbh even if he ain't got more raw power than archer, he'd prolly still have a way cleaner record cuz he's the theoretical bloodlusted gil by default
 
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New DLC time and it's fucking ZHAO YUN!
 
Alright, I decided to go tour the Beast's Lair Tsukihime Remake Page for the game and the localization is stated to be a step up from Witch On The Holy Night(Which did have some issues(I remember one being that a certain proverb couldn't work well at all translated but they tried and failed) but was otherwise solid.

They also renamed alot of things from the fan translation so yeah...
SHIKI is now Shiki(Yes, it's meant to be Italics) and if Shiki is meant to be emphasized, it's now in Capslock(the unironic switching)
Event Storage is now Phenomena Containment(I have seen mixed reception to this, it's either too long or it doesn't seem like it adds the temporal aspect like Event does compared to Phenomena. I'm fine with it.)
Luminary is now Lumina(This is less so, I think Luminary works better but looking at Google, I think they went with the Latin version of Light which if we go by how it's stated:
LUMINA is the Latin word to describe the LIGHT, origin of knowledge and of great historical movements.
I think it can work) Also, I guess they did a name drop with the latest Melty Blood game the entire time...
EDIT: I'm pretty certain Lumina is meant to be another fashion to close to how Archetypes are described to work in Lostbelt 7 as basically those who chronicle the life of the Prime Species that live on the Planet and otherwise... but then you have other True Ancestors being able to hit this form as well but then they are also the split off essences of Type-Moon so whatever.
Andrei Godbivouac is now Andrei Godbevach

Further grabbing from it from the Artbook(Which I plan on getting in a few days with the limited edition for the Switch):
Shadow Stitching is Shadow Binding, and The Plating Effect is now The Iron Bore.
Rank I DAs are now Zombies to differentiate from how RanK I-III are all together as “The Dead”. Rest of the ranks are unchanged.
I think Twenty-Seven Dead Apostle Ancestors was just completely shortened to Twenty-Seven Ancestors.
Castle-therefore-Kingdom is Castle-Ergo-Kingdom
The Material didn’t bring up the word Principle at all (in the translation anyway, they just avoided the subject and called them Idea Bloods mostly) so I’ll have to play the game to check what they did there.
Old Blood and Young Blood are Elders and Neophytes
Kind of a minor thing but they changed Shikiller’s Natural Enemy of Perfection to “completeness”

So yeah, I'll confirm it in a few days if no one else does but it is Beast's Lair and they got more credibility than most sites on this stuff so...
 
How strong and capable is actually Kriemhild? As in how would she fare in normal grail war? I assume she'd be tactician due to "Revenge Plan", how effective is that skill exactly?
 
How strong and capable is actually Kriemhild? As in how would she fare in normal grail war? I assume she'd be tactician due to "Revenge Plan", how effective is that skill exactly?

Kriemhild theoretically should be strong as hell due to being more or less a no nonsense Servant, smarter than she looks and has Balmung and can use it in creative fashions so she can get a hit off.
In execution, Kriemhild is limited as hell in that while she has the broken as shit Balmung, she cannot use it to anywhere near the degree Siegfried or even Sieg can use it. Her "swordsmanship" is nothing to write home about and she's not all that durable even compared to the stronger of Heroic Spirits.

She's not Don Quixote level but she's not as strong as her husband for absolute, she's above average.
 
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