Yes. It's the main reason Waver triggers panic attacks in other mages, despite not being particularly great as a mage. The thing that makes him dangerous is that he will analyze the shit out of somebody's magecraft and expose its mechanics to the point where it looses all its Mystery and becomes useless.Another question, so Magecraft basically gets weaker the more it's known/analyzed right?
No, because you basically can't analyze the impossible . It just operates outside human understanding.And this doesn't apply to True Magic I'm assuming?
So if someone hypothetically had the capability of "downloading" their opponents history and analysing it, that'd be pretty bad for any sort of Magecraft user?
So if someone hypothetically had the capability of "downloading" their opponents history and analysing it, that'd be pretty bad for any sort of Magecraft user?
By the by, the Greek Gods/Olympians weren't the only Deities to come from off-world (well, another Universe in their case) right?
I know the Mayans/Quetz did iirc.
| Caenis | If you only need to move one person around,I can take 'em myself. Having Authority over the sea means I've also got the power to navigate it. Basically means I can cross any border, Lostbelt or not. But hey, it's up to you. 'Sides, I'm not gonna lie; it can be a rough way to travel. |
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A mad doctor who is only interested in the advancement of medicine.
His medicine encompasses all fields including clinical pharmacology, surgery, as well as medical magecraft, and is highly effective. However, his fundamental goal isn’t “to relieve people of their suffering” or “to be thanked for healing people” but “to advance his skill at medicine”, making him completely different from an ordinary “doctor”.
He would gladly treat novel illnesses that could potentially advance medicine, but would rather not spare a moment to examine mundane illnesses. He often performs unnecessarily experimental and dangerous treatments, the likes that would make another doctor’s blood run cold.
Because of his own genius abilities, his treatments still end up in success. Patients with no medical knowledge would simply exclaim, “I’m healed! This man really is an amazing doctor!” This is the reason behind his reputation.
His one and only goal is “to continue devoting himself to his medicine in order to advance it”. But there’s one thing he can never forgive: Zeus' cruel treatment of him. Even after manifesting as a Servant, he still bears anger and hatred due to the fact that he was killed by a god.
Why did I have to die?
All I wanted was to devote myself to medicine. I excelled in medicine, that’s all. Why did I have to be killed?
You turned me into a constellation and a god after my death. Do you think I’d forgive you because of that?
The flames of rage directed at that god’s selfish and unfair treatment will never die down.
Having been summoned by the King of the Indian Lostbelt who aimed to reach “a perfect utopia” by eliminating all impurities and embedded a divinity he stole in Asclepius, his rage intensified and went berserk.
Rejecting those who excel for their superiority must not be allowed.
Between things superior and things inferior, those superior ought to remain.
That is the inherent and proper nature of the world—
Adhering to the extreme tenet of this Lostbelt, he began to act as a Servant of the King—a Lōkapāla.
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If you ask him, “Why are you so intent on advancing medicine?” his first reaction would be puzzlement.
He himself probably hasn’t realized that the answer is right there. It might have been an initial impulse to him, but he himself has forgotten about it. The reason is so natural to him that he himself has forgotten about it. That’s why he will never say it.
The answer is clear and simple: “I aimed to advance medicine for the future. In other words, for posterity.” His love for humanity.
If you have stayed by his side and spent time with him, the answer might come to you naturally. At the very least, the heroes who sailed with him in the Argo had more or less realized it. Telling him would put him in a sour mood, though. It will bring out his orneriness, and there’s a possibility that he would head in the wrong direction so they made sure not to tell him.
Going deeper, the reason for that initial impulse might be a personal one.
By advancing medicine even further and successfully conquering death, no one will have to meet a pitiful end due to the gods’ foolishness just like my mother...
In other words, his reason might be “(indirect) salvation for the mother I never met, whose death at the hands of the gods left me bereaved”.
As a mage, he can create a “workshop”, a territory advantageous to him.
Because he possesses an A-rank skill, it is also possible for him to create a “temple” which surpasses a “workshop”.
Naturally, such a place is nothing but a consultation room, a treatment room, or an operating room for the sake of medical practice to him.
Although he can only create items related to medicine, the items he creates are of extremely high quality. These items are, in most cases, more or less effective on his target injuries or diseases. However, the same cannot be guaranteed for everything else.
Here, it's because of this and God Arjuna adding in another Divinity into Asclepius as he asked, he overloaded his Spirit Origin due to not being an actual Divine Spirit in this form.He (grudgingly) possesses high divinity as a son of Apollo.
A skill that proves his existence as the founder of the concept of “medical care”, which has been handed down until present times, and as the god of medicine.
In one myth version, the first to use herbs for treatment was Chiron, but the one who studied and developed that knowledge and the first to practice clinical medicine was Asclepius.
A skill that proves his lineage to the Greek god Apollo. Apollo is the god of many fields such as archery, performing arts, prophecies, and the sun. He is also the god of plagues as well as healing, a manifestation of duality.
Asclepius would very much want to forget about this skill. However, if there are patients he can only save through the power of this blood… It’s likely that, while clicking his tongue, he will not hesitate to make use of this power.
He employs a serpent which is a symbol of immortality and also used in medical care.
In Ancient Greece, serpents were regarded as sacred messengers of the gods.
Asclepius, killed by a thunderbolt thrown by Zeus as punishment for resurrecting the dead, became the constellation Ophiuchus/Serpent Bearer after death—something he may or may not have wished for.
“The Rod of Asclepius” has a serpent wrapped around it and is still used as a symbol of medicine today.
Resurrection Fraught Hades
The resurrection medicine Asclepius created to bring back the dead. Hades, the god of the Underworld, felt his territory was invaded when Asclepius resurrected the dead, so he turned to Zeus to punish him which brought about his end.
...However, this Noble Phantasm is not the “genuine” medicine and simply an imitation he created.
The resurrection medicine he once created and used was made from a unique raw material. Even as a Heroic Spirit, it is not a Noble Phantasm he can bring forth automatically. Thus, in regular Holy Grail Wars, he can only use this emulated medicine. Its effects are less pronounced, and several conditions must be met to be able to bring back the dead through this medicine, such as the post-mortem interval as well as the body’s condition. Having acquired modern medical knowledge, he self-deprecatingly compares this to “a slightly better AED”.
To add, this emulated medicine is quite valuable as is and its usage is limited.
Resurrection Fraught Hades
His true Noble Phantasm which he generally does not use (cannot use).
The very resurrection medicine that once invaded Hades’ territory and angered Zeus, capable of fully resurrecting humans and demigods even from extreme conditions. It is said that he used this to resurrect Glaucus, son of King Minos, and Hippolytus, son of Theseus.
This medicine was created with Gorgon’s blood given to him by Athena (which was an offering from Perseus). Blood from Gorgon’s left side had the power to destroy men, while blood from her right side had the power to save men. In truth, simply taking blood from Gorgon was not enough for it to work, as resurrecting Hippolytus was said to have been possible “with Artemis’ power”. The resurrection medicine was first completed because the blood was incorporated with the power of a pure god (Athena and Artemis-class). Some minor factors might have played a role as well.
Simply put, creating the resurrection medicine was made possible not just through his medical skills alone, but also by several factors and coincidences. Asclepius himself has yet to fully master its creation.
It goes without saying that Asclepius wants to create the true resurrection medicine once more.
Can I create it through my own abilities alone? Is it impossible to achieve it through simpler means? How do I mass-produce it?— He is, as expected, only thinking about the advancement of medicine.
Really specific question, but who would be the "oldest" entity in all of the Nasuverse?
Types?
So Tiamat is the progenitor of most Gods on Earth (obviously excluding those that came from off-world like the Greeks and the Aztecs/Mayans) and the various Textures on the Planet?Probably be the Primordial Daemons but to be real with you, the closest we got with actual numbers is Tiamat(Who would have to be billions of years old as she showed up on Primordial Earth and added her Sea of Life/Primordial Sea which gave us what we see now as Textures/Layered Worlds) and Albion(who is explicitly stated to be older than the Earth itself, this doesn't contradict Tiamat either as Albion was before that happened and Tiamat just wandered in from Space).
So Tiamat is the progenitor of most Gods on Earth (obviously excluding those that came from off-world like the Greeks and the Aztecs/Mayans) and the various Textures on the Planet?
Interesting.
Did the various Gods come first or did Textures?
So Quetz (who is the chief god of the Aztecs right?) is the only one who came from off-world, but the rest of the Mayan/Aztec pantheons didn't?I believe it was Textures for most(Outside of the Machine Gods but they come from a different Universe entirely so...) then the Gods showed up afterwards. Quetzalcoatl explicitly showed up as the Meteor that killed the Dinosaurs(As she was just space bacteria/parasite then) but other than that, none of the others we've seen comes from Space... well aside from The White Titan/Sefar.
The first point in the Timeline is the creation of the Mooncell,4.6 Billion BC so going by that , the race of Aliens that created it.Really specific question, but who would be the "oldest" entity in all of the Nasuverse?
So Quetz (who is the chief god of the Aztecs right?) is the only one who came from off-world, but the rest of the Mayan/Aztec pantheons didn't?
Weird.
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