The Ark's Speed and Eternal Darkness
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The official English leaves out the "fires its main laser straight through the planet along with the enemy" bit for some fucking stupid reason shrugs
Any rate?
Panel Height = 768 pixels
Moon = 659 pixels
2*atan(Object_Size/(Panel_Height/tan(FoV/2))) = object degree size
2*atan(659/(768/tan(70/2 deg)))
Moon = 61.997 degrees
Moon Diameter = 3,474,000 meters
Ark Travel Distance = 2,891,000 meters
Time Frame = 5.69 seconds (here and here)
The Ark's Speed = 508,084 m/s or mach 1,493.091
Gaia = 865 pixels
Eternal Darkness Travel = 554 pixels
Eternal Darkness Diameter = 165 pixels
Eternal Darkness Travel/Gaia = 0.64
Eternal Darkness Diameter/Gaia = 0.191
Gaia = 12,742,000 meters
Eternal Darkness Travel = 8,154,880 meters
Time Frame = 0.03 seconds (here and here)
The Ark's Eternal Darkness Speed = 271,829,333 m/s or 0.906C
Eternal Darkness Diameter = 2,433,722 meters
So?
Post merger with Terra, the planet Gaia is technically hollow.... with the surface of Terra somehow being inverted into the core? Fuck if I know.
That said, we also know from this diagram that the center is treated like a separate dimension?
So I'll have 2 possible models to work with. One where the Ark punches through the dimensional wall like the Iifa Tree manages and one where it doesn't and has to drill through an intact internal structure. Because the mass of rock is being pushed out of the way as fast as the laser is tunneling through the planet's crust.
Any rate?
The minimum thickness of the planetary crust tunneled through would be about the size difference in radius between Terra and Gaia.
Gaia = 12,742,000 meters
Terra = 11,518,768 meters (derived above)
Subtract both and...
Destruction Depth (Hollow Planet; Low End) = 1,223,232 meters
Destruction Depth (Whole Planet; High End) = 12,742,000 meters
Volume = PIr^2*H
r = Eternal Darkness Diameter/2
H = Destruction Depth
Destruction Volume (Hollow Planet; Low End) = 5,687,487,124,770,241,000 m^3
Destruction Volume (Whole Planet; High End) = 59,244,657,549,690,010,000 m^3
Mantle Density (Hollow Planet; Low End) = 4,500 kg/m^3 (here)
Average Planet Density (Whole Planet; High End) = 5,513 kg/m^3 (here)
Destruction Mass (Hollow Planet; Low End) = 25,593,692,061,466,080,000,000 kilograms
Destruction Mass (Whole Planet; High End) = 326,615,797,071,441,000,000,000 kilograms
Time Frame (Hollow Planet; Low End) = 2.16 seconds (here and here)
Time Frame (Whole Planet; High End) = 4.2 seconds (here and here)
Destruction Speed (Hollow Planet; Low End) = 566,311.111 m/s
Destruction Speed (Whole Planet; High End) = 3,033,809.524 m/s
KE = 0.5mv^2
m = Destruction Mass
v = Destruction Speed
The Ark's Eternal Darkness Yield (Hollow Planet; Low End) = 4,104,054,408,817,046,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules or 980.893 zettatons
The Ark's Eternal Darkness Yield (Whole Planet; High End) = 1,503,085,935,342,782,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules or 359.246 yottatons
Generally should scale to better. It's a Terran Warship like the Invincible, which nuked Alexander (a peer to Garland in general).
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It's also a clear foil to Alexander as its Eternal Darkness is essentially the opposite of Alexander's Divine Judgment.
Either way, Zidane and company kick its ass in the Oeilvert without the ability to use magic, so raw physicals and shit.
Necron's Grand Cross
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I've hated this feat for a while because I thought it was the camera making the shit around Gaia shift.
Then I noticed Gaia's front faces the exact same way the entire time as both Space and the Orbiting Planets continue to move, so that tells me that at the very least the orbiting planets are not just a camera thing and there's room to discuss Space shifting too.
Any rate?
Gaia = 408 pixels
Planet = 162 pixels
Gaia/Planet = 0.397
Gaia = 12,742,000 meters
Planet = 5,058,574 meters
It's most similar to Mercury, so a G of 0.378 will be what I use
Planet Mass = 3.554 * 10^23 kilograms
There are 4 planets.
Total Planet Mass = 1.4216 * 10^24 kilograms
Image 1
Planet = 335 pixels
Distance 1 = 309 pixels
Distance 1/Planet = 0.922
Distance 1 = 4,664,005.228 meters
Image 2
Planet = 282 pixels
Distance 2 = 99 pixels
Distance 2/Planet = 0.351
Distance 2 = 1,775,559.474 meters
Subtract both distances to determine...
Total Distance Planets Moved = 2,888,445.754 meters
Time Frame = 1 second (here and here)
Planet Speed = 2,888,445.754 m/s
KE = 0.5mv^2
m = Total Planet Mass
v = Planet Speed
Necron's Grand Cross Yield = 5,930,288,895,497,487,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules or 1.417 ninatons or 1,417 yottatons
Now some magic speeds
Gaia = 282 pixels
Lightning Distance = 1322 pixels
Lightning Distance/Gaia = 4.688
Lightning Distance = 59,734,496 meters
Time Frame = 0.03 seconds (here and here)
Necron's Lightning Magic Speed = 1,991,149,867 m/s or 6.637C
Next?
Gaia = 280 pixels
Fire Distance = 520 pixels
Fire Distance/Gaia = 1.857
Fire Distance = 23,661,894 meters
Time Frame = 0.03 seconds (here and here)
Necron's Fire Magic Speed = 788,729,800 m/s or 2.629C
No, seriously though, fuck this animation.
Vivi Ornitier's Magic and Meteor Speed
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Basically, Vivi's magic has to travel to, on average, the asteroid belt and drag a meteor to attack with.
This is also essentially corroborated by Doomsday and how the giant fucking meteor is created by using some kind of gravity well to suck in those asteroids from well off into space.
So this is both the speed of his magic and the speed of the meteor.
Other than the time frames, I'd hazard a guess just about any meteor type spell in FF can justify using the asteroid belt given typical descriptions and portrayal shrugs
Asteroid Distance From Gaia = 179,500,000,000 meters (here)
Time Frame 1 = 2.18 seconds (here and here)
Vivi Ornitier's Magic Speed (Travel To Meteor) = 82,339,449,541 m/s or 274.465C
Time Frame 2 = 3.3 seconds (here and here)
Vivi Ornitier's Meteor Speed = 54,393,939,394 m/s or 181.313C
Neat.
Vivi Ornitier's Doomsday and Adelbert Steiner's Doomsday Sword
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So, the idea of this will be kind of like how I measured Exodus' own feat in FFXII here. Except I have lightning to use as a measuring stick instead of various meteor speeds.
Obviously, nothing is to scale respective to the animation outside the animation, but it beats not trying to do this feat at all shrugs
Second Image
Lightning = 463 pixels
Large Meteor Portion = 522 pixels
Small Meteor Portion = 268 pixels
Meteor Distance 2 (Y Axis) = 30 pixels
Meteor Distance 2 (X Axis) = 548 pixels
Large Meteor Portion/Lightning = 1.127
Small Meteor Portion/Lightning = 0.579
Meteor Distance 2 (Y Axis)/Lightning = 0.065
Meteor Distance 2 (X Axis)/Lightning = 1.184
Time Frame = 0.03 seconds (here and here)
Wikipedia cites some study that found an average speed for a stepped leader to be about 440 km/sec. While I can only get the abstract for it without paying for the damn thing, I miss being a student as a tangent, but this other article (web and pdf views) appears to corroborate it as well as listing a minor meta analysis worth of other corroborative past research findings in both its introduction and its own later findings presented in the results/discussion.
As an aside, I find it amusing they give a range of values for the distances they're discussing as of course capturing video to measure the speed of lightning won't have some kind of convenient measuring stick the strikes always land near and in the same field of visual depth for.
All that to say? I'm all for 440 km/sec if only because I can actually cite and find it beyond the research findings of a harem manaka's bullshit.
Lightning Speed = 440,000 m/s
Lightning = 13,200 meters
Large Meteor Portion = 14,876.4 meters
Small Meteor Portion = 7,642.8 meters
Meteor Distance 2 (Y Axis) = 858 meters
Meteor Distance 2 (X Axis) = 15,628.8 meters
Thus, using the Pythagorean Theorem you get?
Total Meteor Distance 2 = 15,652.334 meters
First Image
Small Meteor Portion = 280 pixels
Meteor Distance 1 (Y Axis) = 54 pixels
Meteor Distance 1 (X Axis) = 584 pixels
Meteor Distance 1 (Y Axis)/Small Meteor Portion = 0.193
Meteor Distance 1 (X Axis)/Small Meteor Portion = 2.086
Meteor Distance 1 (Y Axis) = 1,475.06 meters
Meteor Distance 1 (X Axis) = 15,942.881 meters
Total Meteor Distance 1 = 16,010.973 meters
Total Meteor Travel = Total Meteor Distance 1 - Total Meteor Distance 2 = 358.639 meters
Time Frame = 0.03 seconds (here and here)
Doomsday Speed = 11,954.633 m/s
Large Meteor Portion = 46 pixels
Meteor Diameter 1 = 157 pixels
Meteor Diameter 2 = 216 pixels
Meteor Diameter 1/Large Meteor Portion = 3.413
Meteor Diameter 2/Large Meteor Portion = 4.696
Meteor Diameter 1 = 50,773.153 meters
Meteor Diameter 2 = 69,859.574 meters
Volume = (4/3)PIr1^2r2
r1 = (Meteor Diameter 1)/2
r2 = (Meteor Diameter 2)/2
Meteor Volume = 94,248,098,817,857.31 m^3
Meteor Density = 3,000 kg/m^3
Meteor Mass = 282,744,296,453,571,900 kilograms
KE = 0.5mv^2
m = Meteor Mass
v = Doomsday Speed
Vivi Ornitier's Doomsday and Adelbert Steiner's Doomsday Sword Yield = 20,203,953,185,854,160,000,000,000 joules or 4.829 petatons
Obviously, they scale to significantly better given they not only defeated Tiamat on their own?
Literally everyone can take credit for enduring shit like Ultima, even if it does kick their asses twice.
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Ark.mp4
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Final Fantasy 25th Memorial Ultimania Vol. 2 Art Book p300 said:
The official English leaves out the "fires its main laser straight through the planet along with the enemy" bit for some fucking stupid reason shrugs
Any rate?
![3zVN5qd.png](https://i.imgur.com/3zVN5qd.png)
![iavUfHd.png](https://i.imgur.com/iavUfHd.png)
Panel Height = 768 pixels
Moon = 659 pixels
2*atan(Object_Size/(Panel_Height/tan(FoV/2))) = object degree size
2*atan(659/(768/tan(70/2 deg)))
Moon = 61.997 degrees
Moon Diameter = 3,474,000 meters
Ark Travel Distance = 2,891,000 meters
Time Frame = 5.69 seconds (here and here)
The Ark's Speed = 508,084 m/s or mach 1,493.091
![JJIYtLC.png](https://i.imgur.com/JJIYtLC.png)
Gaia = 865 pixels
Eternal Darkness Travel = 554 pixels
Eternal Darkness Diameter = 165 pixels
Eternal Darkness Travel/Gaia = 0.64
Eternal Darkness Diameter/Gaia = 0.191
Gaia = 12,742,000 meters
Eternal Darkness Travel = 8,154,880 meters
Time Frame = 0.03 seconds (here and here)
The Ark's Eternal Darkness Speed = 271,829,333 m/s or 0.906C
Eternal Darkness Diameter = 2,433,722 meters
So?
Post merger with Terra, the planet Gaia is technically hollow.... with the surface of Terra somehow being inverted into the core? Fuck if I know.
That said, we also know from this diagram that the center is treated like a separate dimension?
![U9xnI5I.png](https://i.imgur.com/U9xnI5I.png)
![sPEAkev.png](https://i.imgur.com/sPEAkev.png)
So I'll have 2 possible models to work with. One where the Ark punches through the dimensional wall like the Iifa Tree manages and one where it doesn't and has to drill through an intact internal structure. Because the mass of rock is being pushed out of the way as fast as the laser is tunneling through the planet's crust.
Any rate?
The minimum thickness of the planetary crust tunneled through would be about the size difference in radius between Terra and Gaia.
Gaia = 12,742,000 meters
Terra = 11,518,768 meters (derived above)
Subtract both and...
Destruction Depth (Hollow Planet; Low End) = 1,223,232 meters
Destruction Depth (Whole Planet; High End) = 12,742,000 meters
Volume = PIr^2*H
r = Eternal Darkness Diameter/2
H = Destruction Depth
Destruction Volume (Hollow Planet; Low End) = 5,687,487,124,770,241,000 m^3
Destruction Volume (Whole Planet; High End) = 59,244,657,549,690,010,000 m^3
Mantle Density (Hollow Planet; Low End) = 4,500 kg/m^3 (here)
Average Planet Density (Whole Planet; High End) = 5,513 kg/m^3 (here)
Destruction Mass (Hollow Planet; Low End) = 25,593,692,061,466,080,000,000 kilograms
Destruction Mass (Whole Planet; High End) = 326,615,797,071,441,000,000,000 kilograms
Time Frame (Hollow Planet; Low End) = 2.16 seconds (here and here)
Time Frame (Whole Planet; High End) = 4.2 seconds (here and here)
Destruction Speed (Hollow Planet; Low End) = 566,311.111 m/s
Destruction Speed (Whole Planet; High End) = 3,033,809.524 m/s
KE = 0.5mv^2
m = Destruction Mass
v = Destruction Speed
The Ark's Eternal Darkness Yield (Hollow Planet; Low End) = 4,104,054,408,817,046,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules or 980.893 zettatons
The Ark's Eternal Darkness Yield (Whole Planet; High End) = 1,503,085,935,342,782,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules or 359.246 yottatons
Generally should scale to better. It's a Terran Warship like the Invincible, which nuked Alexander (a peer to Garland in general).
Invincible vs Alexander 2.mp4
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It's also a clear foil to Alexander as its Eternal Darkness is essentially the opposite of Alexander's Divine Judgment.
Either way, Zidane and company kick its ass in the Oeilvert without the ability to use magic, so raw physicals and shit.
Necron's Grand Cross
Grand Cross.mp4
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I've hated this feat for a while because I thought it was the camera making the shit around Gaia shift.
Then I noticed Gaia's front faces the exact same way the entire time as both Space and the Orbiting Planets continue to move, so that tells me that at the very least the orbiting planets are not just a camera thing and there's room to discuss Space shifting too.
Any rate?
![XlL0JpF.png](https://i.imgur.com/XlL0JpF.png)
Gaia = 408 pixels
Planet = 162 pixels
Gaia/Planet = 0.397
Gaia = 12,742,000 meters
Planet = 5,058,574 meters
It's most similar to Mercury, so a G of 0.378 will be what I use
Planet Mass = 3.554 * 10^23 kilograms
There are 4 planets.
Total Planet Mass = 1.4216 * 10^24 kilograms
![fd4PkjT.png](https://i.imgur.com/fd4PkjT.png)
![3LHSb3r.png](https://i.imgur.com/3LHSb3r.png)
Image 1
Planet = 335 pixels
Distance 1 = 309 pixels
Distance 1/Planet = 0.922
Distance 1 = 4,664,005.228 meters
Image 2
Planet = 282 pixels
Distance 2 = 99 pixels
Distance 2/Planet = 0.351
Distance 2 = 1,775,559.474 meters
Subtract both distances to determine...
Total Distance Planets Moved = 2,888,445.754 meters
Time Frame = 1 second (here and here)
Planet Speed = 2,888,445.754 m/s
KE = 0.5mv^2
m = Total Planet Mass
v = Planet Speed
Necron's Grand Cross Yield = 5,930,288,895,497,487,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules or 1.417 ninatons or 1,417 yottatons
Now some magic speeds
![7XrIo6h.png](https://i.imgur.com/7XrIo6h.png)
![0w4WOhX.png](https://i.imgur.com/0w4WOhX.png)
Gaia = 282 pixels
Lightning Distance = 1322 pixels
Lightning Distance/Gaia = 4.688
Lightning Distance = 59,734,496 meters
Time Frame = 0.03 seconds (here and here)
Necron's Lightning Magic Speed = 1,991,149,867 m/s or 6.637C
Next?
![QQH34LB.png](https://i.imgur.com/QQH34LB.png)
![4sucYex.png](https://i.imgur.com/4sucYex.png)
![wElQqBL.png](https://i.imgur.com/wElQqBL.png)
Gaia = 280 pixels
Fire Distance = 520 pixels
Fire Distance/Gaia = 1.857
Fire Distance = 23,661,894 meters
Time Frame = 0.03 seconds (here and here)
Necron's Fire Magic Speed = 788,729,800 m/s or 2.629C
No, seriously though, fuck this animation.
Vivi Ornitier's Magic and Meteor Speed
Meteor.mp4
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Basically, Vivi's magic has to travel to, on average, the asteroid belt and drag a meteor to attack with.
This is also essentially corroborated by Doomsday and how the giant fucking meteor is created by using some kind of gravity well to suck in those asteroids from well off into space.
So this is both the speed of his magic and the speed of the meteor.
Other than the time frames, I'd hazard a guess just about any meteor type spell in FF can justify using the asteroid belt given typical descriptions and portrayal shrugs
Asteroid Distance From Gaia = 179,500,000,000 meters (here)
Time Frame 1 = 2.18 seconds (here and here)
Vivi Ornitier's Magic Speed (Travel To Meteor) = 82,339,449,541 m/s or 274.465C
Time Frame 2 = 3.3 seconds (here and here)
Vivi Ornitier's Meteor Speed = 54,393,939,394 m/s or 181.313C
Neat.
Vivi Ornitier's Doomsday and Adelbert Steiner's Doomsday Sword
Doomsday.mp4
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Doomsday Sword.mp4
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So, the idea of this will be kind of like how I measured Exodus' own feat in FFXII here. Except I have lightning to use as a measuring stick instead of various meteor speeds.
Obviously, nothing is to scale respective to the animation outside the animation, but it beats not trying to do this feat at all shrugs
![53XcEYz.png](https://i.imgur.com/53XcEYz.png)
![uyK15sL.png](https://i.imgur.com/uyK15sL.png)
Second Image
Lightning = 463 pixels
Large Meteor Portion = 522 pixels
Small Meteor Portion = 268 pixels
Meteor Distance 2 (Y Axis) = 30 pixels
Meteor Distance 2 (X Axis) = 548 pixels
Large Meteor Portion/Lightning = 1.127
Small Meteor Portion/Lightning = 0.579
Meteor Distance 2 (Y Axis)/Lightning = 0.065
Meteor Distance 2 (X Axis)/Lightning = 1.184
Time Frame = 0.03 seconds (here and here)
Wikipedia cites some study that found an average speed for a stepped leader to be about 440 km/sec. While I can only get the abstract for it without paying for the damn thing, I miss being a student as a tangent, but this other article (web and pdf views) appears to corroborate it as well as listing a minor meta analysis worth of other corroborative past research findings in both its introduction and its own later findings presented in the results/discussion.
As an aside, I find it amusing they give a range of values for the distances they're discussing as of course capturing video to measure the speed of lightning won't have some kind of convenient measuring stick the strikes always land near and in the same field of visual depth for.
All that to say? I'm all for 440 km/sec if only because I can actually cite and find it beyond the research findings of a harem manaka's bullshit.
Lightning Speed = 440,000 m/s
Lightning = 13,200 meters
Large Meteor Portion = 14,876.4 meters
Small Meteor Portion = 7,642.8 meters
Meteor Distance 2 (Y Axis) = 858 meters
Meteor Distance 2 (X Axis) = 15,628.8 meters
Thus, using the Pythagorean Theorem you get?
Total Meteor Distance 2 = 15,652.334 meters
First Image
Small Meteor Portion = 280 pixels
Meteor Distance 1 (Y Axis) = 54 pixels
Meteor Distance 1 (X Axis) = 584 pixels
Meteor Distance 1 (Y Axis)/Small Meteor Portion = 0.193
Meteor Distance 1 (X Axis)/Small Meteor Portion = 2.086
Meteor Distance 1 (Y Axis) = 1,475.06 meters
Meteor Distance 1 (X Axis) = 15,942.881 meters
Total Meteor Distance 1 = 16,010.973 meters
Total Meteor Travel = Total Meteor Distance 1 - Total Meteor Distance 2 = 358.639 meters
Time Frame = 0.03 seconds (here and here)
Doomsday Speed = 11,954.633 m/s
![kk977n9.png](https://i.imgur.com/kk977n9.png)
Large Meteor Portion = 46 pixels
Meteor Diameter 1 = 157 pixels
Meteor Diameter 2 = 216 pixels
Meteor Diameter 1/Large Meteor Portion = 3.413
Meteor Diameter 2/Large Meteor Portion = 4.696
Meteor Diameter 1 = 50,773.153 meters
Meteor Diameter 2 = 69,859.574 meters
Volume = (4/3)PIr1^2r2
r1 = (Meteor Diameter 1)/2
r2 = (Meteor Diameter 2)/2
Meteor Volume = 94,248,098,817,857.31 m^3
Meteor Density = 3,000 kg/m^3
Meteor Mass = 282,744,296,453,571,900 kilograms
KE = 0.5mv^2
m = Meteor Mass
v = Doomsday Speed
Vivi Ornitier's Doomsday and Adelbert Steiner's Doomsday Sword Yield = 20,203,953,185,854,160,000,000,000 joules or 4.829 petatons
Obviously, they scale to significantly better given they not only defeated Tiamat on their own?
Literally everyone can take credit for enduring shit like Ultima, even if it does kick their asses twice.
Trance Kuja vs Party 2 Ultima 2.mp4
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Final Tally
The Ark's Speed = 508,084 m/s
The Ark's Eternal Darkness Speed = 0.906C
The Ark's Eternal Darkness Yield (Hollow Planet; Low End) = 980.893 zettatons
The Ark's Eternal Darkness Yield (Whole Planet; High End) = 359.246 yottatons
Necron's Grand Cross Yield = 1.417 ninatons or 1,417 yottatons
Necron's Lightning Magic Speed = 6.637C
Necron's Fire Magic Speed = 2.629C
Vivi Ornitier's Magic Speed (Travel To Meteor) = 274.465C
Vivi Ornitier's Meteor Speed = 181.313C
Vivi Ornitier's Doomsday and Adelbert Steiner's Doomsday Sword Yield = 4.829 petatons