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Flower

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Assuming Rugrat flips scum, Tweet is also likely Town here. No reason to make himself look bad as his mate and he called RDK Town earlier. RDK was also white knighting him against me Day 1 which could be an attempt from a scum RDK to buddy a Town Tweet.
 

Emil

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Nah these games are on a whole new offensively level of stupid. If you can deal with it, more power to you but my cup runneth over. Will be the last i play for a while.
bookmarking to revisit if town wins this one ^^
 

Emil

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also feel free to take lead with something not "offensively level of stupid"
 

Grammaton

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no, because the impression i have is mafia is okay with bussing rugrat

if alco town reads rugrat id read him slightly better for it, because it goes against what mafia wants to do right now

it may make me get a false positive read on a player, similar to why i read dalton town in elden ring day 1

entire scum was okay with bussing aurelian, dalton was not

I will just let that post speak for itself
 

Ratchet

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Anyway, to bring us back on point, so I don't really agree that Phenom claim is bad here. To summarise, I think he is attaching a level of risk to his claim that in his position he really doesn't need to make. I will acknowledge it's a potential blindspot.

Don't think Alco is scum. Would require him and Phenom and that's suicidal.

Nothing to read Prof from so far. Had a scum read on Chadwick.

Ditto with Fuji, he is mostly here because I don't have any better name, but his whole game has been pretty tame so far.

Rugrat has basically stopped playing, probably scum and should be the lynch.

I think T Pein claiming he would never be lynched while also having an innocent is a pretty good look for him. Could be Godfather, but I don't believe he would be told he was investigated, so probably has a claim that can bail him out.

Dalton/Sworder wre just lean town by virtue of cop, otherwise nothing there.

Aurelian is a potential blindspot, I think his play has been different from his recent scum games here but I also think they aren't fully accurate in terms of how he plays as scum vs town. Would like to see more.

I think X is town by play, CP by claim, Ekko by play (at least, not mafia), Flower town due to not hiding away in her scum chat.

That leaves Tweet, Gad and Doddsy. I lean town on Doddsy by claim, Tweet by play and Gad, mostly null.

The problem I have is I'm expecting about 5 mafia and I only have Rugrat/Prof/Fuji. Could potentially throw Tweet, Aurelian, Gad in there but I feel like I'm overlooking at least 2 scum slots entirely.
 

Emil

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Anyway, to bring us back on point, so I don't really agree that Phenom claim is bad here. To summarise, I think he is attaching a level of risk to his claim that in his position he really doesn't need to make. I will acknowledge it's a potential blindspot.

Don't think Alco is scum. Would require him and Phenom and that's suicidal.

Nothing to read Prof from so far. Had a scum read on Chadwick.

Ditto with Fuji, he is mostly here because I don't have any better name, but his whole game has been pretty tame so far.

Rugrat has basically stopped playing, probably scum and should be the lynch.

I think T Pein claiming he would never be lynched while also having an innocent is a pretty good look for him. Could be Godfather, but I don't believe he would be told he was investigated, so probably has a claim that can bail him out.

Dalton/Sworder wre just lean town by virtue of cop, otherwise nothing there.

Aurelian is a potential blindspot, I think his play has been different from his recent scum games here but I also think they aren't fully accurate in terms of how he plays as scum vs town. Would like to see more.

I think X is town by play, CP by claim, Ekko by play (at least, not mafia), Flower town due to not hiding away in her scum chat.

That leaves Tweet, Gad and Doddsy. I lean town on Doddsy by claim, Tweet by play and Gad, mostly null.

The problem I have is I'm expecting about 5 mafia and I only have Rugrat/Prof/Fuji. Could potentially throw Tweet, Aurelian, Gad in there but I feel like I'm overlooking at least 2 scum slots entirely.
tempted to play ball here. maybe i shud

we can call it a truce for 1 day since ur atleast actively engaging
 

Flower

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Ig I can play ball here as well. Phenom claimed unprotectable, so scum have no reason to let that role live for much longer. If he doesn't self resolve we off him after like 2 scum flips.
 

Emil

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i guess some pointers

1. i honestly missed / overlooked tpein saying he wont be lynched. he could have a strong verifiable scum claim. its not entirely clearing statement on its own. the innocent check can also be explained via lawyer / GF. this and dalton (sworder) are more blindspots than fang imo.

2. does scum have to be legion? could alco be a non legion scum? in the event phenom is saying the truth, this is a possibility for alco to be scum. also maybe a godfather doesnt scan as legion. if alco is godfather then tpein/dalton almost cleared, unless we go into assumption of cp being partnered with them and lying (which i doubt) or lawyers

3. what r the chances doddsy's claim is a scum role? cucking the serial's double vote power benefits scum just as much. u just came from a game where a similar mass stop ability was given to scum so idk what has doddsy earned to give him town by virtue of claim

4. did u talk about why u scum read chadwich? i can see prof being scum

5. down to get a claim from fuji asap. hes likely green indie
 

Aurelian

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Gonna keep my vote on Rugrat for now, heading to work and won't be back for 9-10ish hours or so.
 

Ratchet

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Ig I can play ball here as well. Phenom claimed unprotectable, so scum have no reason to let that role live for much longer. If he doesn't self resolve we off him after like 2 scum flips.
Where did he claim this? I recall him saying he didn't need it, I think I vaguely remember something like what you're saying, but the quote would be nice.
1. i honestly missed / overlooked tpein saying he wont be lynched. he could have a strong verifiable scum claim. its not entirely clearing statement on its own. the innocent check can also be explained via lawyer / GF. this and dalton (sworder) are more blindspots than fang imo.
I acknowledge this, but T-Pein was saying this before CP claimed, which means his claim will have to stand alone. I will give you Sworder, that's entirely from the result.
2. does scum have to be legion? could alco be a non legion scum? in the event phenom is saying the truth, this is a possibility for alco to be scum. also maybe a godfather doesnt scan as legion. if alco is godfather then tpein/dalton almost cleared, unless we go into assumption of cp being partnered with them and lying (which i doubt) or lawyers
Seems like it, yes. I don't know the flavour and there appear to be lots of factions, but Alco would either be Mfia (probably Legion) or just Mr House.
3. what r the chances doddsy's claim is a scum role? cucking the serial's double vote power benefits scum just as much. u just came from a game where a similar mass stop ability was given to scum so idk what has doddsy earned to give him town by virtue of claim
Yes, but Ultra isn't RDK. I know for a fact Ultra hates misleading roles like that, hell he objects to Masons not sharing alignment, so I'd be very very surprised if it were included here.
4. did u talk about why u scum read chadwich? i can see prof being scum
I ISO'd him earlier in the day.
5. down to get a claim from fuji asap. hes likely green indie
I could see it, though then I'd need you to explain why you were so defensive of Psychic. I actully have you pencilled in for Mr House.
 

Ratchet

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I mean you gave a whole 2 minutes before posting this, which makes me think there is an at least partially performative element to this post?
You're assuming negative intent on my part with that post - I intended to put it at the end of the last one, specifically because my previous reads list and ISO has had next to no input given. It wasn't to imply "wow, you guys really aren't helping here".
 
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