Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

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late on this but randomly found a guy saying Unicron could be killed by a spell in Overlord ????

This is what happens when you push wank into it's absolute maximum...
 

OtherGalaxy

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im assuming they mean the cartoon one but even then …….. he’s still very much able to do a little life after death nonsense there too


and in japan he’s very much still a part of the true god
 
im assuming they mean the cartoon one but even then …….. he’s still very much able to do a little life after death nonsense there too


and in japan he’s very much still a part of the true god

Like I'm not even sure HOW it should affect Unicron in the first place.
Yeah, it's Magic but again how far does that magic reach and extend and what is Unicron's defenses? Like there are so many questions and he's acting like Unicron's fucked and it's like... no.
 

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All the Goal of All Life Is Death does is strengthen all of Ainz’s Death Spells to some nebulous degree to where things that could resist it before can’t any longer.
 

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All the Goal of All Life Is Death does is strengthen all of Ainz’s Death Spells to some nebulous degree to where things that could resist it before can’t any longer.
While true the fact it they can now kill dirt and air is an impressive buff simply because it's complete bullshit, it takes his spells to the point of working on things that aren't even traditionally "Alive". Countering it's easy though, outrange ainzs spells, resurrect, just be totally out of context for overlord in general ect.

Why anyone thinks it'll affect some super massive god robot is beyond me.
 
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While true the fact it they can now kill dirt and air is an impressive buff simply because it's complete bullshit, it takes his spells to the point of working on things that aren't even traditionally "Alive". Countering it's easy though, outrange ainzs spells, resurrect, just be totally out of context for overlord in general ect.

Why anyone thinks it'll affect some super massive god robot is beyond me.

All that reminds me of is just not having a Concept of Death that Ainz can recognize...
 

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You not understanding consistency and how to judge it doesn't make it meaningless. From a narrative-portray standpoint novels Geralt is by any mean a low superhuman. There is several key scenes in the books in which a full capacity and ready to kill Geralt struggle with skilled fighters. He outright LOST a fistfight against half a dozen of guards in Season of storms.

In Sword of Destiny
he came to blows with Levecque, a regular human. The said human matched evenly Geralt swordsmanship speed and reflexes, he lost because Geralt outsmarted him.

Whenever you like it or not Geralt in the books is not that guy. He never was.



He display literally nothing above supersonic in the game. Geralt in the books fight nothing even close to supersonic , to put it in your words, you don't have to like that, but it is what it is.

The Djin showing and the bullshit scaling to Vilgefortz make no sense at all. As I have already covered in my previous post page one, magical lightning is almost never potrayed as real lightning in terms of speed. You may mock spacebattles but at least the people there have such a obvious and primary understanding of fantasy. Most of them anyway, and thanks god for that.


Geralt literally explained himself that he managed to do it by luck. He is a veteran with decades of experience both against human and monsters foes. If Geralt say that it is not within in standard capacity to block two arrows in a row in such way, I prefer to trust Geralt over some random internet guy who clearly have no realistic take on the verse.



He was lucky. He explained iit. There was no struggle because he pulled off a lucky move, in other words in any other scenario he would have either failed or injured himself doing it. The author literally choose to have the interaction with Cahir praise and Geralt outright saying that the praise is overblow for a reason.


Yes, he does. I quote And you’ll not see it again!

Geralt in the novels never pulled something more impressive than blocking two arrows coming in near simultaneous one after the other. In terms of a speed you can actually scale at least. Geralt in the novels have far more feats of struggling or being reacted to by humans than absolutely anything even approaching him of supersonic stuff, let alone the rest.

Here I will pull the definition of consistency for you since you are obviously unable to get it

conformity in the application of something, typically that which is necessary for the sake of logic, accuracy, or fairness.

Books Geralt being subsonic and peak human-low superhuman in physicals is reasonable. The rest is not. If we talk in numbers of feats alone without even considering narration and portrayal Geralt subsonic stuff far outstrip the other way in terms of examples in the books.


Lol.


This is why we judge consistenty and how feats make actually sense within the narration and the author intent about his story. This is why consistency is using the majority of feats we have at hand as opposed to some outliers which contradict everything. Something which you are incapable to do.. for reasons.


Again, Geralt in the novels being challenged or reacted-to by humans is something which happen literally in almost every single book. Even if you want to take your nonsense of lightning as a face value there is literally two scenes of it as opposed to more of a dozen indicating the other way not to mention statements.



Or because Geralt being unable to do it is actually consistent with his portrayal in the novels. Thus why scenes in the same vein are common.


You clearly have no fucking idea of how to judge consistency. Consistency judgement exist precisely because there is outliers and low showings here and there, by your ridiculous logic if a character who have 20 bullet timing showing suddently drops a feat which shoud make massively hypersonic without reasons, then the said character is MHS. Hell, debating comics characters must be funny with you.



Geralt massacring fodder on Thaned does not contradict the fact that Geralt have troubles against 4 excellent swordsmen. In no way, really.

As for the rest of the post I will just be repeating myself and pretty much explaining more or less similar kin of stuff I did for the Novels but now in the games, since your way of interpreting stuff is pretty hilarous , composite The Witcher was not my point so I will stick to adress what I actually argued about in the first place. Although as I said games Geralt is surely way more impressive. I will adress two last things for the rest.



Being able to react to lightning (which you literally claimed various times lmao) is by the common definition a lightning-timing feat. Maybe you should pay attention to what you actually say.


Yes, maybe it is the reason as to why OBD is often a mockery when not outright ignored across both comicvine and spacebattles and considered to be a lair of many wankers who took refuge here from both sites, I really wonder why. Understanding the difference between consistent showings, high end but still legit, outright low showings and outliers is a cornerstone of any reasonable debater. Every single big verse have many inconsistencies yes, this is why we gather stuff and analysis to see what actually does make sense and what does not.

But thanks god not every active debater on this site have this absurd reasoning. Anyway.
I'll just let the Witcher buffs deal with this. :maybe
 

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He would nuke everything with the Juubi and then enslave planet after planet by placing everyone under Infinite Tsukuyomi, harvesting chakra fruits and continuing this process
And he's not going to get killed by Halo rings, among other things at any point in this process because?

I mean admittedly I don't know much about Halo itself or its extended universe (more a Red vs Blue fan), but I'm pretty fucking sure that tech-wise at least, it should be more than capable of dealing with Naruto verse as a whole, let alone one Uchiha and his pet.

Am I right? :kobeha
 

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And he's not going to get killed by Halo rings, among other things at any point in this process because?

I mean admittedly I don't know much about Halo itself or its extended universe (more a Red vs Blue fan), but I'm pretty fucking sure that tech-wise at least, it should be more than capable of dealing with Naruto verse as a whole, let alone one Uchiha and his pet.

Am I right? :kobeha
The man gets lasered to death by the crazy ass orb the minute he steps foot on a halo ring cause he isnt master chief.
:hestonpls
 

Masterblack06

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:mjlol
And the wank begins

"HES 5D GUYS!"
What the fuck is that even supposed to do in a vs debate? How does being 5D stop you from getting dog walked across the universe and back

Myx is 5th Dimensional and we see constantly how little that fucking means when it comes down to it

Niggas sucking off this new character with no feats like hes the second coming of jesus
 
ah the old “let’s stick to a few low ends” argument that gave us subsonic Jolyne and 200kmph speed Kars

I like how this dude actually has the gall to say the OBD is a laughingstock between Spacebattles and ComicVine.
Spacebattles which is actually seen as a joke these days with the only thing saving it is that it has new blood show up every other day... except that new blood primarily comes from Reddit which just makes it worse.

And ComicVine knows it's a fucking joke site which is why you can literally see Multiversal Gilgamesh, Multiversal Yhwach, Outerversal Kaguya(who is literally banned from any and all debates there), Outerversal Void Shiki Ryougi and the consistency of quantum physics when it comes to who wins this day in a VS. debate.

Nah, it's OBD that's the laughingstock which continually has many still use as the standard that we set up including VSB and Death Battle.
I have never seen such fucking arrogance in my life from an obvious SB-CV user.
 

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Man trying to argue authorial intent when you have things like araki clarifying timestop goes all the way out into space and then asking how much energy is that anyway :mjlol
also the fact that he stops made in heaven with it kinda tells you its got universal range too :mjlol and the sun and moon in multiple panels
and araki saying like 5 times “hey did you know stands can move faster than light? did you notice I drew Polnareff following the hanged man with his eyes and saying he saw it move?”


must be subsonic :wow
 
Like this actually kills me right here:

He display literally nothing above supersonic in the game. Geralt in the books fight nothing even close to supersonic , to put it in your words, you don't have to like that, but it is what it is.

The Djin showing and the bullshit scaling to Vilgefortz make no sense at all. As I have already covered in my previous post page one, magical lightning is almost never potrayed as real lightning in terms of speed. You may mock spacebattles but at least the people there have such a obvious and primary understanding of fantasy. Most of them anyway, and thanks god for that.

Like I have no earthly idea how people can still be this stupid and not understand how there's a fucking difference:

If the Magic conjures a legit phenomena, it's legit no matter how "magical" it is because this is the equivalent of saying Roy Mustang can't conjure actual fire/explosions because "It's an Alchemical Reaction".
Spacebattles can't even understand that simple concept which is why they will downplay entire series but then put up shit like Overlord because of taking World Items completely at their word.

"HES 5D GUYS!"
What the fuck is that even supposed to do in a vs debate? How does being 5D stop you from getting dog walked across the universe and back

Myx is 5th Dimensional and we see constantly how little that fucking means when it comes down to it

Niggas sucking off this new character with no feats like hes the second coming of jesus

Higher Dimensions don't mean shit in fantasy unless it's explicitly given a massive reason as to WHY that's the case and even then, it wouldn't carry over to every other series.
It's why only VSB and it's offshoots that believe higher dimensions means fuck of all considering for Mxy, there's no issue from people entering or leaving his dimension but in Star Ocean 3, 3D beings literally cannot enter 4D Space without basically being erased from existence which Fate/Grand Order reveals is similar to what happens on both ends with the Outer Gods and those not from their space(They would both get erased from existence if they try and forcefully enter each other's spaces).

That's how worthless it actually is, fiction plays so loose with it that there's no reason to care.
 
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