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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

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I still can't believe that people on CBR unrionically think that The Living Tribunal has no speed feats and is therefore only peak human in speed.
Technically, TLT doesn't have any feats unambiguously for speed. Because you don't need "speed" when you're a cosmic living abstraction that embodies the entire multiverse.
 
Technically, TLT doesn't have any feats unambiguously for speed. Because you don't need "speed" when you're a cosmic living abstraction that embodies the entire multiverse.
I’m gonna be brutally honest with you

“Living abstraction” is a NLF. You need tangible speed feats
 
I’m gonna be brutally honest with you

“Living abstraction” is a NLF. You need tangible speed feats
Your right and wrong.

Deathsurge is a living abstraction of the Darkforce dimension, but he still has been reacted to by Spiderman and Ghost Rider, even though his body is a literal embodiment of non-existence.

But when your a character like the LT, that by his very nature encompasses characters that are either omnipresent or exist beyond the concept of speed? Then no, you don't.
 
Your right and wrong.

Deathsurge is a living abstraction of the Darkforce dimension, but he still has been reacted to by Spiderman and Ghost Rider, even though his body is a literal embodiment of non-existence.

But when your a character like the LT, that by his very nature encompasses characters that are either omnipresent or exist beyond the concept of speed? Then no, you don't.
I said being a living abstraction just by itself isn’t enough

but when they’re directly called omnipresent then yes they don’t need speed
 
I said being a living abstraction just by itself isn’t enough

but when they’re directly called omnipresent then yes they don’t need speed
The thing is though, being a living abstraction by itself is enough, it's just a case by case basis.

We can rightfully assume that since Eternity is a abstract embodiment of the infinite universe, that he is therefore omnipresent.

We can't assume that since deathsurge is the abstract embodiment of Oblivion's dimension, that he is IS omnipresent or otherwise gains any speed upgrades from that.

Lord Order and Master Chaos embody the laws of Chaos and or order across the infinite multiverse, we CAN assume they are omnipresent, they wouldn't be able to embody these concepts otherwise.

Unless your gods from Discworld that gain their power from faith or some shit, then yeah naw.
 

"Shirou is too slow"
>Literally kept up with beings that would speedblitz the shit out of Akaza, let alone the Demon Slayers.
Sure.
 
what does sb even base their speed claims on
I... honestly don't even know to be frank.
I rarely see them even use their Sci-Fi thread to establish their feats or even really go over any new ones past literally listening to people in the designated thread.
Thus you end up with the nonsense you see from there like somehow Shirou gets blitzed by Akaza, Yhwach's myriad of things he could never do with The Almighty or RWBY being credible at all.
 

Man, how strong do they think Shigaraki even is at this point?
He's not stronger than Pain at all nor would do any of the things they can say he does, especially with how ridiculous ST can be.
 

I'm about to have a fucking stroke as we have reached officially brain drain territory:
Baki's translation is famously flat out made up, with translator outright admitting that he would change the story to make it "better", to fuck with people or just for no reason at all(I don't have that particular screenshot saved tho). This makes it very hard to use Baki in VS since it is very easy to assume that many high level feats are straight up made up by authors, and historically Baki fans would use them regardless of how nonsensical they are(i.e. Yujiro stopping the earthquake) because Baki doesn't need to make sense or something like that.

The easiest point of comparison here are Oliva and Julius. Latter should be somewhat stronger at this point, while Oliva was shown to be about as strong as Baki. Meanwhile Fei demolished Waka who is Julius' rival and equal in power. So using ABC logic Fei should take this.

Ah yes, Baki's feats are somehow more ridiculous than Kengan Ashura/Omega's feats of a clan of people literally breeding themselves so hard, they become stronger than normal humans just like that, literally performing supermoves and training that would never ever work and can defeat armies. We should also not just believe the feats we can see with our eyes and believe they are false because they exist... which is already what they DON'T do.

And Baki is stronger than Olivier who displaced the GPS across virtually the entire US even in the damn anime rendition of their fight, how the hell does this backwards way of saying someone must be stronger than the other is brought up?
 
This thread is already a massive wreck on Page 1 from believing that Karna is weaker than Artoria due to his fight with Siegfried and believing he's on Mordred's level(when this is false as Sieg only fights Mordred and that was when he was learning the form at all, and Sieg can't even use Siegfried's full power even in the Materials while the sole fight Siegfried has with Karna is extremely even between the both of them.), to not even understanding how or why Vasavi Shakti is so powerful or why Artoria would be a major threat to him.

I haven't even seen the other 2 pages yet but I'm already expecting worse.
 
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