Final Fantasy XIV Mafia - Game Thread

[Magic]

this entire argument seems predicated on a completely false timeline of events, from both sides lol

^this is the post he liked that im referring to.

See aurelian liked this and he has said some other shit that has just off from what I expect from him.

Like when he said he was a bad player to odo or inferred it. Usually he's very indignant when accused of being bad but here he has essentially liked posts saying he's not straight forward or when tweet said he was beating a dead horse he said just like his town meta.

Again it feels very self preservation esque.

which post r u referring to in particular?

the one above i made. i can maybe find the tweet post too that im talking about as well if it helps.

 

[Magic]

Is he not playing a lot on this site? I thought some of the more experienced players would find a way to read him?

I expect a well designed game to punish players for extensive claiming. I can accept townie claiming to avoid lynch or if he caught a scum due to his role.

ive played zero games in which he was scum so im basically judging on what ive read in the games he was scum and the games i was with him where he was town.

another thing i feel has been lacking from him is his reads. aurelian typically tends to have more reads than what he's provided at this point into the game, even when defending himself.

like last game he was defending himself but had already made a bunch of reads while defending himself. here he mostly stayed null on people.

 

[Grammaton]

there's a 20 page argument of odo/aurelian. the reactions of everyone else and where they stand are telling.

to sum it real quick, odo didn't like that aurelian's initial response to an accusation was insults opposed to defending himself at a larger capacity as he often does(and then afterwards proceeded to do with odo).

also, as i feel like it's getting lost in the shuffle, i wasn't really a big fan of aurelian letting people talk down his game because as town i've often seen him get indignant when people talk down his game whereas this game he was talking down his own game, liking posts inferring that his own game should be met with lower standards, and replied to a tweet post where he said he's basically beating a dead horse and asking him if that isn't what matches his town meta.

he eventually claimed voyeur.

Have you looked at his claim in detail?

 

[Grammaton]

And to anyone scum reading CP, are you working to the assumption that Tpein was a counterwagon?

 

[Tempest]

on page 7
from what I zapped between the pages, milker seems townish. like they put effort into finding out.
magic did do the town reads early so feels good there to

only ones that are lower in posts then me are natlija and close to me is psychic.
ill check up on sworder and odds posts.

also odd wrote some posts about being cleared as town? feels strange since its hard to confirms town on day 1 unless you have familiarity and you can see the commitment

do you think scum magic neglects to give early town reads?

 

[Magic]

Have you looked at his claim in detail?

ya it's a voyeur.

im not really sure what voyeur variant youre familiar with, but ive seen his on our site too or maybe im confused as to what you expected. voyeur basically sucks ass unless paired with like a tracker.

 

[Tempest]

I'm about here rn

1 - @RÆM
2 - @Evans
3 - @Magic
4 - @CraigPelton
5 - @TSworder
6 - @Black Pegged Dragon
7 - @Ekkologix
8 - @T-Pein™
9 - @Psychic
10 - @Xadlin
11 - @Grammaton
12 - @Lord Melkor
13 - @Aurelian
14 - @Hans Tweetenberg
15 - @Natalija
16 - @Odd
17 - @Lethal

could see Evans/Aurelian together, maaaybe Evans/T-Pein. don't see T-Pein/Aurelian really

 

[Tempest]

dang it why didn't the colors save

 

[Magic]

dang it why didn't the colors save

the mentions. you have to remove the @.

 

[Tempest]

I'm about here rn

1 - RÆM
2 - Evans
3 - Magic
4 - CraigPelton
5 - TSworder
6 - Black Pegged Dragon
7 - Ekkologix
8 - T-Pein™
9 - Psychic
10 - Xadlin
11 - Grammaton
12 - Lord Melkor
13 - Aurelian
14 - Hans Tweetenberg
15 - Natalija
16 - Odd
17 - Lethal

could see Evans/Aurelian together, maaaybe Evans/T-Pein. don't see T-Pein/Aurelian really

fixed

 

[Tempest]

last time Gram was on Aurelian's case like this was Fallout mafia and Aurelian was my scummate, I helped move Gram off of him so kinda feel like just giving him his lynch today tbh

 

[Tempest]

but if he flips town I'd shoot T-Pein in the fucking FACE

 

[Magic]

So your take now?

as i just said probably still worth lynching because of the number of people coming to his defense is substantially higher than it would be if he was just town imo.

combine that with the raem wagon being a bit weird because even if you see his play as weird, if you think aurelian is town(which lots of those going for raem or sussing him do) then he basically decided to protect a townie and vote bpd for ??? reasons instead of just joining the aurelian wagon. combine that with saying we're bullying the guy and, while not having seen him as scum, that just doesn't really track as a great reason for a scum player to avoid the wagon.

in monster hunter on day 3 when everyone was voting hime or ekko he just decided to vote me based on his own intuition as well so again him just voting bpd checks out.

 

[Tempest]

Evans is hard to buy this game though. starts off with the I HATE T-PEIN LET'S KILL HIM shtick, then t-pein comes into the thread and plays exactly how he did when he was actually scum and suddenly Evans has nothing to say about him but shades me who is actually pointing this out. then when questioned about it he shades T-Pein but also continues to shade me. feels very off

 

[Tempest]

but t-pein did point out evans was being very performative so that would have to be a BUS

 

[Tempest]

nobody biting on t-pein has me a bit shook tho like did I not catch him dead to rights in MHW? did I not show receipts for how he's exactly the same? why did everyone just no-sell that lol

 

[Tempest]

as i just said probably still worth lynching because of the number of people coming to his defense is substantially higher than it would be if he was just town imo.

combine that with the raem wagon being a bit weird because even if you see his play as weird, if you think aurelian is town(which lots of those going for raem or sussing him do) then he basically decided to protect a townie and vote bpd for ??? reasons instead of just joining the aurelian wagon. combine that with saying we're bullying the guy and, while not having seen him as scum, that just doesn't really track as a great reason for a scum player to avoid the wagon.

in monster hunter on day 3 when everyone was voting hime or ekko he just decided to vote me based on his own intuition as well so again him just voting bpd checks out.

did you ever answer my question about who the people hesitant to vote aurelian were that you thought could be scum? I also need to ask you who is defending aurelian that you think has scum equity with him or is potentially being scummy

 

[Evans]

Evans is hard to buy this game though. starts off with the I HATE T-PEIN LET'S KILL HIM shtick, then t-pein comes into the thread and plays exactly how he did when he was actually scum and suddenly Evans has nothing to say about him but shades me who is actually pointing this out. then when questioned about it he shades T-Pein but also continues to shade me. feels very off

My vote is still on T-Pein and I said I still want him gone

 

[Tempest]

My vote is still on T-Pein and I said I still want him gone

that doesn't contradict anything I said mate

 

[Evans]

Evans is hard to buy this game though. starts off with the I HATE T-PEIN LET'S KILL HIM shtick, then t-pein comes into the thread and plays exactly how he did when he was actually scum and suddenly Evans has nothing to say about him but shades me who is actually pointing this out. then when questioned about it he shades T-Pein but also continues to shade me. feels very off

This whole post reeks as is the previous about having me as a scum lean lol

Like, it’s completely not true