Final Fantasy XIV Mafia - Game Thread

[Grammaton]

Er

What

 

[Grammaton]

Re psychics post

 

[Evans]

I've posted quite a bit, I think you probably missed them. You putting CP in your town read just because you don't wolf read them is a bit off to me. If anything, he should be in your null pile.

You have 9 posts including this one.

 

[Magic]

I'm fine with solving Aurelian today. I don't want to waste another phase on him. His role claim sounds like watcher yet he claims to also be able to stop a lynch. sounds fake.

where did you get this impression from?

 

[Hans Tweetenberg]

Hi. Why do you think I am scum? Can you elaborate?

I've posted quite a bit, I think you probably missed them. You putting CP in your town read just because you don't wolf read them is a bit off to me. If anything, he should be in your null pile.

I've caught on to that too. Maybe TMI?

hmmmmmm.....What are your thoughts on Odd? I wasn't too happy with his entrance.

I'm fine with solving Aurelian today. I don't want to waste another phase on him. His role claim sounds like watcher yet he claims to also be able to stop a lynch. sounds fake.

[Vote lynch Aurelian]

Odd is a swell dude but unless he plays the game he can get in the bin for all I care

 

[Magic]

@Lord Melkor what do you think of lethal given that raem is likely town?

 

[Psychic]

The reason I ask love, is that there's 2 players in this game you've identified meta's that you've NAILED DEAD TO RIGHTS as scum before and you're bouncing around wagons without pushing to see them through or try and lead them? Why would you identify you've nailed them as scum before then identify they're showing the same behaviour and not try and lead as town like you did in your last game to bury them?

CP clearly said that I've acted differently and that's why he townread me. I've responded and didn't collapse like my last scum games.

where did you get this impression from?

he said the lynch won't work on him. He's said it multiple times. Am I reading it wrong?

 

[Magic]

The reason I ask love, is that there's 2 players in this game you've identified meta's that you've NAILED DEAD TO RIGHTS as scum before and you're bouncing around wagons without pushing to see them through or try and lead them? Why would you identify you've nailed them as scum before then identify they're showing the same behaviour and not try and lead as town like you did in your last game to bury them?

also, on top of this point, psychic calls cp perma-scum literally all the time and there was none of that this game. she hates having him around but even with the early pressure in regards to him saying she wasn't commenting but liking all she said was she was busy due to memorial day.

she didn't say cp was setting her up to be shaded by talking about her absence which id expect from her otherwise.

 

[Evans]

CP clearly said that I've acted differently and that's why he townread me. I've responded and didn't collapse like my last scum games.

he said the lynch won't work on him. He's said it multiple times. Am I reading it wrong?

doesn't change the T-Pein push tho does it love?

Catch up off your 10 posts then reply to me

 

[Evans]

doesn't change the T-Pein push tho does it love?

Catch up off your 10 posts then reply to me

Sorry, lack of push

 

[Magic]

CP clearly said that I've acted differently and that's why he townread me. I've responded and didn't collapse like my last scum games.

he said the lynch won't work on him. He's said it multiple times. Am I reading it wrong?

ah okay.

no, he said basically he might die with his role without claiming or claim and die at night as he was making it out to be a role scum would want to remove(for reasons unbeknown to me).

 

[Psychic]

also, on top of this point, psychic calls cp perma-scum literally all the time and there was none of that this game. she hates having him around but even with the early pressure in regards to him saying she wasn't commenting but liking all she said was she was busy due to memorial day.

she didn't say cp was setting her up to be shaded by talking about her absence which id expect from her otherwise.

I don't hate having CP around, what?
I would like to see more from CP, right now I have a null read on him.
Honestly don't know what you expect from me. You've read me wrong before in other games. I don't think you know how to read me much.

 

[Arne Slot]

The reason I ask love, is that there's 2 players in this game you've identified meta's that you've NAILED DEAD TO RIGHTS as scum before and you're bouncing around wagons without pushing to see them through or try and lead them? Why would you identify you've nailed them as scum before then identify they're showing the same behaviour and not try and lead as town like you did in your last game to bury them?

not a single person was interested in pushing t-pein and he only has a handful of posts to work with, idk what you're expecting here. in the other game I had poyser and alco pushing him too, even before I did

and yeah I town read psychic so idk what you're talking about there

 

[The X]

I did have BPD as a town lean in initially but I'm usually more confident on him, and these posts kind of rubbed me the wrong way since it feels like he's just throwing out reads for the sake of it but then he says he feels good about his town reads which doesn't really match up with the actual town reads he gave imo. kept saying like "he's fine I guess" for a lot of people or "slight town" and then he says "I feel decent about most of my town reads".

I mean, what reads do you feel like I just threw out there? I commented on every slot in the game. And you are changing my words now because you are saying I feel good when all I said was I feel decent about most of my town reads. I'm not 100 confident on all my town reads, but I do think that the wolves are probably going to be somewhere within the slots I have a wolf lean on or that or more null or in between. I do feel like I could be wrong about slots, but I also do feel decent about how I'm reading the game so far.

 

[Psychic]

Sorry, lack of push

It's not a lack of push, it's a lack of traction.

 

[Evans]

CP clearly said that I've acted differently and that's why he townread me. I've responded and didn't collapse like my last scum games

thing is I've caught psychic twice from calling out her lurking and she just collapsed both times. here she actually made some reads which felt genuine and independent

Really glad you both replied btw.

Craig, out of these 8 posts - where 6 slight reads were made with no explanation or reasoning. Where did they feel independent?
Because her only topic of discussion was lynching Aurelian to help read Odo?

You probably.

What if he doesn’t want too?

It was a joke.

Woah language.

The first 2 pages is a bit tryharding imho.

Can the man post first before you decide this?

Suprised that LM's early reads are similar to mine. Slight town lean on Sworder and slight scum lean on Magic as well.

I have no idea what you mean by this. Can you elaborate?

Slight town lean on : Sworder, Ekko, LM
Slight scum read on : Raem, Magic

Regarding Aurelian vs Gramma. Null on both. Although logically, Gramma is making alot of sense and Aurelian is being defensive and not solving. he can be like that as town too, I think. Regardless, his slot needs to be resolved at this point. His flip would give me a better read on Gram.

Again, I am agreeing with LM here. I also can't read Gram.

I would like a Raem flip, just comes off as super scummy. He's not making alot of sense and does not seem to want to solve. Just getting bad vibes from him at this point.

You keep saying this as if you want us to notice how much similarly you acted as town last game.

Yes and it's Memorial day, so I was busy.

what do u think of Aurelian?

@CraigPelton
What are your reads so far?

Getting a slight town lean on Hans.

Although I wanna see Raem lynch before Fang.

are you trying to save your scummate?

That sounds like a watcher....

lul



didn't you scumread me too?

Can't tell if baked or scum.

 

[The X]

Oh yeah I already forgot about that abomonation of a vote

?

 

[Magic]

RÆM
Evans
4 -CraigPelton
5 -TSworder
6 Black Pegged Dragon
7 Ekkologix
8 T-Pein™
9 Psychic
10 Xadlin
11 Grammaton
12 Lord Melkor
13 Aurelian
14 Hans Tweetenberg
15 Natalija
16 Odd
17 Lethal

this is where im at.

tweet/odo/evans im unlikely to want to lynch at any point in this game. all im almost absolutely sure are town.

nate i found her interactions with aurelian to be genuine town and wanting him to show himself town/not give up and idk it's a vibe town read. melkor im back to town reading given what he said about paranoia in regards to me from(mwh) although i still want him to clarify why he's paranoid.

odd im null on.

i think lethal is a good bet to be scum. one of bpd/tpein as well, if not both. bpd i find more scummy than tpein. if tpein is town i can see cp as scum. that doesn't mean he's automatically scum if tpein is town, but i just haven't jived with him this game as much as id like.

im not exactly that confident aurelian will flip scum but i can easily see it. it's just a weird slot and as i mentioned earlier i dont like some of his posts that have come off as a self preservation esque.

@Grammaton i hope i dont die, but if i do die please take note of these legacy reads, particularly the town reads. unless there's something im missing i find it unlikely evans is scum. i should cross-compare with the game he just had but im liking his progressions and the questions he's asking.

 

[The X]

RÆM/??? has been modkilled.
Their role will be revealed at the end of the current day phase.
Do not discuss further.
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Spoiler

1 - @RÆM
2 - @Evans
3 - @Magic
4 - @CraigPelton
5 - @TSworder
6 - @Black Pegged Dragon
7 - @Ekkologix
8 - @T-Pein™
9 - @Psychic
10 - @Xadlin
11 - @Grammaton
12 - @Lord Melkor
13 - @Aurelian
14 - @Hans Tweetenberg
15 - @Natalija
16 - @Odd
17 - @Lethal

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Lame as fuck.

 

[Arne Slot]

I mean, what reads do you feel like I just threw out there? I commented on every slot in the game. And you are changing my words now because you are saying I feel good when all I said was I feel decent about most of my town reads. I'm not 100 confident on all my town reads, but I do think that the wolves are probably going to be somewhere within the slots I have a wolf lean on or that or more null or in between. I do feel like I could be wrong about slots, but I also do feel decent about how I'm reading the game so far.

Which reads do you feel decent about? Here's what you said:

I had a town read on Melkor and Psychic that I discussed, as well as minor town reads on Tweet and CP (but I'm more on the fence with CP than Tweet). Think Raem is been no bueno. I do think I'm fine with your slot with how you dealt with Fang. Evans might be fine as well? Unironically liked Tpein's entrance a whole lot more than I liked him last game, but he could be wanting not to be another easy lynch if he did roll wolf here. Magic I'm a bit curious about? I think he has definitely been proactive, but I'd have to look at his posts closer to see how he's framing and guiding things. Ekko I initially kind of got a not so great gut feeling about; that read is in development. Xad might be town? Nat is meh. Odd is Odd. Think that covers just about everyone?

"minor town reads on Tweet and CP (but I'm more on the fence with CP than Tweet)"

"I do think I'm fine with your (Gram) slot"

hedged the T-Pein read

"Xad might be town?"

Oh and Tsword and Lethal. I guess Tsword has been fine as well. Lethal's catchup hasn't moved me in one way or another. I'd probably say slight town on his slot, though, just because I don't sense any real fakeness from him at the moment.

"I guess Tsword has been fine as well"

The bit about lethal there

Like none of these sound like you're actually town reading any of these people, so what are these town reads you feel decent about?