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i wouldn't mind bpd or lethal.

im not really sure why odo is adverse to tpein either given cp's case i think that can be a promising lead.

Because … I like my own lead better?

Idc if you want to wagon tpein, my only real take is that he is at least putting a nominal amount of effort in - I don’t think his play in this game directly translates to how it was in MHW in quite the way it was advertised, but fuck it Ive been wrong about him recently so maybe what I think doesn’t matter so much

TLDR do what you want, I don’t care
 
I did have BPD as a town lean in initially but I'm usually more confident on him, and these posts kind of rubbed me the wrong way since it feels like he's just throwing out reads for the sake of it but then he says he feels good about his town reads which doesn't really match up with the actual town reads he gave imo. kept saying like "he's fine I guess" for a lot of people or "slight town" and then he says "I feel decent about most of my town reads".
I had a town read on Melkor and Psychic that I discussed, as well as minor town reads on Tweet and CP (but I'm more on the fence with CP than Tweet). Think Raem is been no bueno. I do think I'm fine with your slot with how you dealt with Fang. Evans might be fine as well? Unironically liked Tpein's entrance a whole lot more than I liked him last game, but he could be wanting not to be another easy lynch if he did roll wolf here. Magic I'm a bit curious about? I think he has definitely been proactive, but I'd have to look at his posts closer to see how he's framing and guiding things. Ekko I initially kind of got a not so great gut feeling about; that read is in development. Xad might be town? Nat is meh. Odd is Odd. Think that covers just about everyone?

Oh and Tsword and Lethal. I guess Tsword has been fine as well. Lethal's catchup hasn't moved me in one way or another. I'd probably say slight town on his slot, though, just because I don't sense any real fakeness from him at the moment.

I'm definitely lacking some wolf reads here but I think there's enough meh slots for me that will sour more. I feel decent about most of my town reads.
 
I did have BPD as a town lean in initially but I'm usually more confident on him, and these posts kind of rubbed me the wrong way since it feels like he's just throwing out reads for the sake of it but then he says he feels good about his town reads which doesn't really match up with the actual town reads he gave imo. kept saying like "he's fine I guess" for a lot of people or "slight town" and then he says "I feel decent about most of my town reads".

if BPD flips scum, how do you feel about T-Pein seeing the first post you quoted?
 
if BPD flips scum, how do you feel about T-Pein seeing the first post you quoted?
it's kind of NAI at best since he hedges it but could also be awkwardly playing around a teammate. he's saying he liked him more this game than a game where he was town? meanwhile t-pein's opening was actually pretty similar to his most recent scum game as I went over.
 
What's made you flip onto BPD before me since you're voting through your scum reads?
I said why I am changing on BPD in the post you just quoted before, and my scum read on you was based on a mistaken timeline which I also acknowledged earlier
 
it's kind of NAI at best since he hedges it but could also be awkwardly playing around a teammate. he's saying he liked him more this game than a game where he was town? meanwhile t-pein's opening was actually pretty similar to his most recent scum game as I went over.

This doesn't answer how you'd feel about T-Pein tho
 
I said why I am changing on BPD in the post you just quoted before, and my scum read on you was based on a mistaken timeline which I also acknowledged earlier

You did, I'm not disputing that.

I'm asking why you went onto BPD before voting me sir
 
fully caught up

town
gram -
strongest town read. thoughts on aurelian and sworder matched mine as im catching up. update - i think the aurelian wagon wont go further tho as i feel like hes town. its getting a lil stale imo and i hope gram moves on. @Grammaton do u have any current sus reads aside from fang? what r ur updated thoughts on him now after his interactions with other players. do u think this is the same as evans who we caught on very early last game but he talked his way out of a wagon?


lean town
magic -
i think he is playing protown now and helping move game forward. nothing outside of scum range after seeing monster hunter game but his play is inherently protown so if he is scum he is helping town rn and id imagine him to wanna go astray from this soon if scum. that wud be the point this read changes if it happens.
aurelian - i think i can decently read him after the last couple of games from the way he enters thread and holds conversations and believes what he is posting, even if i dont agree with some of it. he also did the town tell of his that i wont tell anyone ;)). i kind of hope gram moves elsewhere for a bit.


town side of null
sworder -
early posts felt less calculated than last game where he opened with a read list and small fluff. dont have any reason solid to put him any higher tho
melkor - moving melkor down to here, tho still think his line of solving comes off as townie. i do kinda sense a bit of mailing in a scum read on magic. @Lord Melkor do u have any early PoE or town reads rn? i think ur posts to magic r kinda phoned in. i dont think as scum u wud make it that obvious tho so im leaning more townie on u, but i want to see more fire in ur reads if possible. what would help u read magic?
RAEM - dont agree with anything they said (like saying that forming town reads is scummy) but dont necessarily sense malice. the names he threw for scum reads seem more lazy than mafia (because it serves him no purpose to antagonize that many players at once). dont have stronger reason to move him higher. @RÆM pls give us reasons for ur reads por favor.


null
evans -
if hes scum im gna need tpein to bury him here. update- moving him to null. if he continues tpein talk will move down to scum. there shud be plenty of content now for town evans to start cooking so im on the lookout for that
BLD - no update. i think fang comes better than BPD tbh, or rather, i dont feel like BPD scum reads fang really. aside from that dont have anything to read BPD from.
psychic - hi @Psychic :blobtrin. im afraid we might have lost you to the scum side this game :(( . can u help me read u town?
tweet - was looking a bit townie until that post where he retracts his town read of gram which looked very similar to how he retracted his town read off dofla last game. now sensing bit of scum tweet there. i think tweet wants to pursue RAEM now but idk the reasons behind it. @Hans Tweetenberg can u shed some light on ur PoE rn and reasons pls


scum side of null
cp -
i think everything cp engaged with this game was easy and safe, and him going back to iso gram/aurelian to bring the timeline issue was mostly performative. i cant really tell rn who cp scum reads or where his direction is. i feel like he wants that aurelian mislynch badly but he wont really overextend for it. if it ever becomes an opportunity he will put his fangs on it instantly, no pun intended.


vote lynch cp
@CraigPelton id like a read list with reasons from you pls. ty ty ^^
Hi. Why do you think I am scum? Can you elaborate?
Well that was something.

Town column: Gram, Magic, Melkor, CP, Tweet
Gram been consistent with his drive on Fang; Magic good with questions; Melkor different approach to this game; CP is more in hope cos I can't wolf read him; Tweet actually taking action and not paper pushing.

Wolf column: Fang, Raem, Psychic
Fang with the abysmal overreaction to slight shade, then tripling down on the argument with Gram that did nothing but distract the game play; Raem blindly following along with Fang and the defending of him based on falsely represented bullying; Psychic done a shit ton of likes and reacts, yet hasn't done much if any towards the game state.

Wanna see more from Dragon and Evans to put them in a slot.
I've posted quite a bit, I think you probably missed them. You putting CP in your town read just because you don't wolf read them is a bit off to me. If anything, he should be in your null pile.
You seemed not to like my posts few pages ago, your read on me has changed?

Do you think Fang and Raem could be wolves together?

Not sure if you caught it, but Magic is for some reason very confident that Raem is town.
I've caught on to that too. Maybe TMI?
We got time for more wagons right?

[Vote lynch BPD]
hmmmmmm.....What are your thoughts on Odd? I wasn't too happy with his entrance.
Can we just lynch Aurelian please, he’s had literally all day to do something and he hasn’t bothered. Stop fucking around worrying about hypothetical good guy reads
I'm fine with solving Aurelian today. I don't want to waste another phase on him. His role claim sounds like watcher yet he claims to also be able to stop a lynch. sounds fake.

[Vote lynch Aurelian]
 
The reason I ask love, is that there's 2 players in this game you've identified meta's that you've NAILED DEAD TO RIGHTS as scum before and you're bouncing around wagons without pushing to see them through or try and lead them? Why would you identify you've nailed them as scum before then identify they're showing the same behaviour and not try and lead as town like you did in your last game to bury them?

All right @Psychic I'm afraid it's that time again. You reacted to this post 50 minutes ago but haven't said anything. You've hardly said anything yet this game despite clearly being around. You know what I'm thinking. What's up?

From T-Pein's scum game in Monster Hunter:



Shows up, trashes Poyser for pushing Lethal

Oh yeah and his preferred wagon that day was also Raem lolol

Weird how this is your read on TPein and yet youre shading me and downplaying my posts about TPein as if I didn't say he's playing exactly how he did when I nailed him as scum

nobody biting on t-pein has me a bit shook tho like did I not catch him dead to rights in MHW? did I not show receipts for how he's exactly the same? why did everyone just no-sell that lol

thing is I've caught psychic twice from calling out her lurking and she just collapsed both times. here she actually made some reads which felt genuine and independent
 
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