no as there r elements that probbaly dont change, so treat this on case by case basis
do u know why ppl town read u btw?
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do u know why ppl town read u btw?
The main point was that her read list was trash despite making quality catch up posts. There was no basis for most of them and she just replaced raem from her scum reads with a new name
She also just stated she'll wait for his flip before determining his alignment but she was scum reading him prior. Why did he suddenly leave her scum reads if not for the fact she knows he will flip town? I mean again it's obvious he will but she's pretending as if it isn't and yet still replaced him from her list.
Hans Tweetenberg
Marvelous
Can't say I got much of a comment on BPDs latest posts, all I'm really noticing is how convenient his positioning around Fang seems to be.
Compare this to the game he was just scum. Again the way he hunts and focuses on his scum reads and progressions is wildly different. It always feels forced as scum and he gets stuck in a one track train.
Hans Tweetenberg
Marvelous
Hmkay
Not really but then again I also think I'm obvtown by virtue of the fact that I'm night and day from the previous game. I don't think I noticed any town reads on me I'd find too generous out of the people that made them.
strongest point i have against psychic is her saying aurelian need to be resolved and calling it a day there
she isnt voting there and dipping tho so thats a good sign, but generally her read on aurelian seem to be stale and non progressive
i dont want to day 1 her tho
Psychic
Yennefer
There you go lying AGAIN.
I didn't replaced him from my list, he was MODKILLED.
I scumread him but I'm not 100% sure he is scum, unlike you who is 100% sure he is town.
I already explained that my list wasn't a reads list, just an alternative direction list since raem got modkilled.
Who do u scum read besides me?
Hans Tweetenberg
Marvelous
On topic of her reads list being trash, think back to MHW where she had me as top scum towards the end despite the fact that I was close to confirmed town. Probably had other reads of that quality in there as well. I don't think that the amount of sense her reads make to guys like you is a good measuring stick.
tempted to just say psychic is town, lets move on to next
does this tell u anything about magic?
how so? to me it seems fang is the one posturing but idk if thats what u mean by convenient positioning
So it was sure nice of you all to start playing mafia rather than spastic survivor simulator the moment I went to bed
Reading back, I’d have to concede that Aurelians posts look better. Also good to note that he and CP now have direct 2 way potential equity (CP trying to move lynch onto Tpein around 36 hrs ago, and Aurelian making it clear he’ll never vote CP over BPD). I still think lynching here is best currently because some better posts overnight don’t wash away everything that came before, but I welcome the fact he’s at least playing the game now.
My biggest issue with CP is that the attempted tpein wagon is out of character for him as town (he was happy with the Aurelian wagon at face value, and he tends to defer to the likes of me and magic day 1 cause it helps him solve us too, which is fair enough), but unless Aurelian is also scum, then it’s strategically bad as scum too as not only is it out of character for him, but it doesn’t accomplish anything
TLDR I think flipping Aurelian is the way to go
I’ve also got a suspicion Sworder got his town lean and thought job done, so I’m firmly retracting it now
@Odd @Lethal @Natalija @Xadlin @TSworder let’s go, time to play properly
Reading back, I’d have to concede that Aurelians posts look better. Also good to note that he and CP now have direct 2 way potential equity (CP trying to move lynch onto Tpein around 36 hrs ago, and Aurelian making it clear he’ll never vote CP over BPD). I still think lynching here is best currently because some better posts overnight don’t wash away everything that came before, but I welcome the fact he’s at least playing the game now.
My biggest issue with CP is that the attempted tpein wagon is out of character for him as town (he was happy with the Aurelian wagon at face value, and he tends to defer to the likes of me and magic day 1 cause it helps him solve us too, which is fair enough), but unless Aurelian is also scum, then it’s strategically bad as scum too as not only is it out of character for him, but it doesn’t accomplish anything
TLDR I think flipping Aurelian is the way to go
I’ve also got a suspicion Sworder got his town lean and thought job done, so I’m firmly retracting it now
@Odd @Lethal @Natalija @Xadlin @TSworder let’s go, time to play properly
She had most of scum in her reads in mwh towards the end lol. It wasn't about accuracy but the why behind them.
There was no why behind any of them.
Correct, that in itself seemed out of character for her.
All those people not in my town reads I can see as potential scum. Cp had equity with you(and aurelian as odo just said).
Lethal could be scum too as I didn't like much of what I saw from his read back. His demeanor was soft and the only one he was at all harsh to was tpein. Contrast thst to his standard town game where he mud flings multiple people with giant multi quotes.
I thought bpd was scummy but his defense had almost no self preservation to it so I'm not sure anymore.
Hans Tweetenberg
Marvelous
I'm not sure how aware he is of the fact that Psychic gonna Psychic based on MHW, he was scum then and most likely didn't see her as any sort of priority. In the same vein though idk what his angle as scum would be here trying to sell us this would-be mislynch against the will of 5+ naysayers when a number of people like Pein, Fang and BPD have been on the table and he's mostly snubbed those directions. Might be interesting to look at down the line with a few flips but right now I struggle to see it as a coordinated scum play.
The one world I could maybe see atm is one where BPD is his teammate and he's trying to waste our time and run down the clock on this dayphase.
This is an almost insulting assessment of Magics playstyle and temperament, and I’m here for it lmao
Hans Tweetenberg
Marvelous
What I mean is this kinda stuff
I just don't get the qualifier that "he could be town tho!" when by his own admission nothing about his own play speaks anything of the fact that he thinks Fang might be town. Just seems fake to me and possibly his way to get ahead of a town flip.
May I ask what this is based on? Self preservation is the strongest motivator there is for most of these/you folk?
off to sleep
where am at rn
town
evans - no update. tpein is making cp alot better but evans also wants tpein gone so neither of those make him look bad in retrospect
lean town
gram - gone a bit down since i think fang is MAYBE town and id love for gram to give us something else
magic - no update
town side of null
tweet - forgot why i had him as strong town. must be some posts mid day 1 i thought were towny / no agenda. someone cross check this with me lol. he seems to be coasting out the rest of the day playing on easy mode
aurelian - moving him and BPD here off of their interaction
BPD - same as aurelian
psychic - moving psychic here. i think recent posts look good. dont rly agree with the scum read of magic tho but it came from genuine thought process
sworder - no update. might start trending down if inactivity continues and i struggle to find other scum reads
lord melkor - no update. same as sworder
lethal - no update. the points magic brought are good. need to see more from lethal. my impressions on the read back initially was lethal felt towny but on a re-look its not as impressive as i initially thought. i hope i can see more consistency and interactions from lethal in real time.
null / need more pressure
tpein - moving tpein here. no idea what hes doing this game. i'll chalk it up to lazy town over scum maybe but hes making cp's game really easy. im falling to the trap of relying on people to solve PoE now which is not good
nat - no update. dont sense much agenda but also not much solving
odd - no update. dont sense much agenda but also not much solving
scum side of null
cp - while i think tpein makes him alot better, im leaning individually scum on cp for reasons ive outlined in thread. im not as confident on it as much anymore tho, but i am struggling with finding scum reads rn. its possible the wolves r hovering around nulls and my reads r wrong
lean scum
xadlin - similar thread entrance to fairy tail. dont sense as much degree of solving from him as seen in MHW. xadlin isnt getting nearly as much attention as he shud be. need pressure.
goodnight
where am at rn
town
evans - no update. tpein is making cp alot better but evans also wants tpein gone so neither of those make him look bad in retrospect
lean town
gram - gone a bit down since i think fang is MAYBE town and id love for gram to give us something else
magic - no update
town side of null
tweet - forgot why i had him as strong town. must be some posts mid day 1 i thought were towny / no agenda. someone cross check this with me lol. he seems to be coasting out the rest of the day playing on easy mode
aurelian - moving him and BPD here off of their interaction
BPD - same as aurelian
psychic - moving psychic here. i think recent posts look good. dont rly agree with the scum read of magic tho but it came from genuine thought process
sworder - no update. might start trending down if inactivity continues and i struggle to find other scum reads
lord melkor - no update. same as sworder
lethal - no update. the points magic brought are good. need to see more from lethal. my impressions on the read back initially was lethal felt towny but on a re-look its not as impressive as i initially thought. i hope i can see more consistency and interactions from lethal in real time.
null / need more pressure
tpein - moving tpein here. no idea what hes doing this game. i'll chalk it up to lazy town over scum maybe but hes making cp's game really easy. im falling to the trap of relying on people to solve PoE now which is not good
nat - no update. dont sense much agenda but also not much solving
odd - no update. dont sense much agenda but also not much solving
scum side of null
cp - while i think tpein makes him alot better, im leaning individually scum on cp for reasons ive outlined in thread. im not as confident on it as much anymore tho, but i am struggling with finding scum reads rn. its possible the wolves r hovering around nulls and my reads r wrong
lean scum
xadlin - similar thread entrance to fairy tail. dont sense as much degree of solving from him as seen in MHW. xadlin isnt getting nearly as much attention as he shud be. need pressure.
goodnight
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