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Game Ranked Darkest Dungeon Mafia - Game Thread Day 6

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Flower

No more tears left to cry...
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You're assuming incompetence on my part for one.

I'm not hard town reading him. Just think there are several angles he could have opted to go for here, instead he chose the one that would reflect the worst on him.
We had this topic with Magic previous game as well. I simply think some players are too strong as Town to not notice certain things. And CP is just the best Psychic reader period. And the things about the glossary is sth I would have expected him to bring up first.

You might call the argument bad again, but it's simply how it is. The only other explanation is that his head isn't fully in the game. There is no in between.
 

Ratchet

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We had this topic with Magic previous game as well. I simply think some players are too strong as Town to not notice certain things. And CP is just the best Psychic reader period. And the things about the glossary is sth I would have expected him to bring up first.

You might call the argument bad again, but it's simply how it is. The only other explanation is that his head isn't fully in the game. There is no in between.
I mean you even conceded that the reasoning was bad after the game so you tell me lol. You're never going to get me to agree with you with these arguments Flower, I'm respecting the read by not shouting over it and telling you that you're wrong, but rather explaining my perspective.
 

Ultra

THE BEAR
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No it doesn't lol - I said you didn't truly push her, by which I mean by vote, until I also expressed a scum read on her. What I'm suggested could be the case is that you were distancing, saw I was scum reading her, and tried to get in front of that by assuming leadership of the wagon.

Of course it's entirely possible you're town and doing this, but I could see this plausibly coming from a scum mate of hers. I'm not going to lynch you over it.

You're being a bit serpentine. I think you know exactly what you were suggesting. You're welcome to accuse me of being her partnered regardless, but I was clearly well ahead of you.
 

Ultra

THE BEAR
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Not blaming you though I guess people just value my thoughts less then yours is all. I wonder if your thoughts make no sense to Ultra.

Tone it down with the insecurity here - disagreeing with you in a game reflects nothing of how I think of your input as a player or in general.
 

The X

Marvelous
To be fair I promise you they're my own lol.

Not really a fan of some of your posting here - might need to re-evaluate my town read. Just feels stilted and like you want to get certain positions nailed down to use. Not a scum read either, yet, just not giving with your recent stuff.
Yeah I get that completely. Definitely interested in certain positions.
 

Flower

No more tears left to cry...
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I mean you even conceded that the reasoning was bad after the game so you tell me lol. You're never going to get me to agree with you with these arguments Flower, I'm respecting the read by not shouting over it and telling you that you're wrong, but rather explaining my perspective.
I mean, it can also be he just has a bad day and is Town. Idk. I just don't want people to overlook him. I don't expect to live long after getting killed early so often lately, so at least don't forget my posts pls.
 

Fujishiro

Lonely at the top
Tone it down with the insecurity here - disagreeing with you in a game reflects nothing of how I think of your input as a player or in general.
Its called people being hypocrites, nothing to do with insecurity or whatever if you notice I’m perfectly fine with Ratchy its just funny how you call my same arguments dumb and I quote ‘’Don’t care about anything you said the entire game’’ yet here is Ratchet presenting the same arguments about Craig for one and i dont see a peep.

Hypocrisy.
 

Ultra

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RE: Craig, I think the precedent Flower cited bears noting, that he has before defended a team mate in a very weak position (Lethal) and directly challenged a strong town player (Gram) in a previous scum game. He has routinely made comments about bussing being weak play in regards to performances by me and Magic. Under this lens the argument that he's town because he didn't mind risking his position looking defensive over Psychic is...less persuasive.

Frankly I had already linked them well before her claim, so you can argue he had nothing to lose by doubling down.
 

Ratchet

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You're being a bit serpentine. I think you know exactly what you were suggesting. You're welcome to accuse me of being her partnered regardless, but I was clearly well ahead of you.
No, you're trying to alter what I was suggesting - I'm very clearly suggesting that you potentially saw the direction it was going and wanted to capitalise on it before it was too late. You being the first one to do X is largely the point - for example what was your reasoning for voting Psychic there after I'd brought her up?
 

Fujishiro

Lonely at the top
When did I ever say that? Lay out you opinion for me.
Its more about you instantly agreeing to going for Craig then Ekko because you agreed with Flower then Ratchet shows up mentions Vinegar and suddenly she goes first above all of them.

Meanwhile Ive been proposing Pein and you even agreed with me that he was a bit scummy yet you didnt want to lynch/push him before Craig and Ekko.

Its an interesting contrast.
 

The X

Marvelous
I mean, it can also be he just has a bad day and is Town. Idk. I just don't want people to overlook him. I don't expect to live long after getting killed early so often lately, so at least don't forget my posts pls.
The only thing I'll say in Craig's defense is that there have been a couple of games on this site where I've tunnelers town Craig only to change my mind around D3 because of something. I'm willing to give Craig space here to prove himself, and maybe we should both just say we'll leave him for a bit out of good faith.
 

Flower

No more tears left to cry...
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RE: Craig, I think the precedent Flower cited bears noting, that he has before defended a team mate in a very weak position (Lethal) and directly challenged a strong town player (Gram) in a previous scum game. He has routinely made comments about bussing being weak play in regards to performances by me and Magic. Under this lens the argument that he's town because he didn't mind risking his position looking defensive over Psychic is...less persuasive.

Frankly I had already linked them well before her claim, so you can argue he had nothing to lose by doubling down.
You mean Fang, not Lethal.

Or did he defend Lethal from Gram as well in Wrestling? Idr.
 

Ratchet

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I mean, it can also be he just has a bad day and is Town. Idk. I just don't want people to overlook him. I don't expect to live long after getting killed early so often lately, so at least don't forget my posts pls.
1 - You die early because you use things like truth tells to get yourself confirmed early.
2 - I'll respect the reads but if I don't jive with the reasoning there is a good chance I ignore some of them too.
RE: Craig, I think the precedent Flower cited bears noting, that he has before defended a team mate in a very weak position (Lethal) and directly challenged a strong town player (Gram) in a previous scum game. He has routinely made comments about bussing being weak play in regards to performances by me and Magic. Under this lens the argument that he's town because he didn't mind risking his position looking defensive over Psychic is...less persuasive.

Frankly I had already linked them well before her claim, so you can argue he had nothing to lose by doubling down.
He's not going to refuse to bus out of a sense of pride - if he sees a mate flailing he will cut them off like any competent scum would.
 
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