Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

[King]

Gremmy vs Gear 5 Luffy

For the sake of this thread, Gremmy's outer space feat will NOT count as a creation feat, but a transportation feat.

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It's NEVER been anything other than a transportation feat, unless you want to keep trying to deal with the inherent contradiction of him being able to make galaxies when he needs at least one clone just to make a continent level meteor.

He's literally only done this to a guy who was his creation to begin with. If he could have done it to Kenpachi, he most certainly would have and yet he didn't. Luffy is stronger than Kenpachi in every way.

Yeah just a shame Gremmy's reality warping is shit compared to that spatial hax haki was able to resist so I see no reason it wouldn't. Especially as Bleach has a very similar system regarding hax and having much more reiatsu (haki in this case).

Again he couldn't do any of this shit against Kenpachi directly, so why is he going to be able to turn Luffy into shit when Luffy is even stronger?

Luffy will turn Gremmy into a Pizza like what he did with Starun and Kizazu

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/tomura-shigaraki-mha-vs-naruto-uzumaki-naruto.1149065/ There is no way Shiggy is taking Kurama away from Naruto.
Or that Naruto is going to have trouble with Shiggy.

I've seen them say that Shigaraki's Decay should be able to work on Chakra Constructs because Kaguya's Ash Bone Jutsu can work on Chakra Constructs...
It's literally equalization without understanding how or why it works in Naruto vs. how it works in MHA...

Dudes will stretch Shigaraki, AFO, All Might and Deku into absolutely stupid places for their wank.

 

[King]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/thr...s-the-disaster-curses-jujutus-kaisen.1150235/ . . : The entire jjk will be folded by korra like a lawn chair

 

[Salfarc]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/lb6-team-fate-run-a-shounen-team-gauntlet.1149449/page-5?post=99666644#post-99666644

BBhoteppu forget that Cerunnos' gravity in section 26 is equal to U-Olga's pseudo black hole, and according to the story itself, she is stronger than Zeus. Wodime also stated three times (LB 5,2 section 24 , Beginning of Lostbelt 5,2 and LB6 section 17) LB6 is dangerous for PHH and the Foreign God.

Regarding speed, it's been stated many times across the Fate franchise that they can move at the speed of light, or even faster than light.
FGO is connected to almost fate franchise and that mean there should be cross-scaling.

BBhoteppu ironically is also like downplaying Fate, even though she scream when others downplay fate...A bit weird.

Also there are "many times"? Wasn't there like only 3 or 4 times they are stated to move at the speed of light? Or maybe 5. Can you elaborate which are you referring to?


Also damn, there are really a lot of surge for Frieren's thread.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

BBhoteppu ironically is also like downplaying Fate, even though she scream when others downplay fate...A bit weird.

It's funny because BBhoteppu did make an account here... only to cheerlead GaRbS whenever he comes here and tries to talk shit(it's BB-Chan) and nothing else.

Also there are "many times"? Wasn't there like only 3 or 4 times they are stated to move at the speed of light? Or maybe 5. Can you elaborate which are you referring to?

No, there are actually many times Servants can go Lightspeed or even faster(There are quite a few points in F/SN-F/Z-HA era alone where Servants are stated to attack "As fast as light"), that's the whole point of a section in Fate Extra/CCC when Kiara blows your Servant away to "a whole different Galaxy"(It's the Mythological Mystic Code that allows them to survive the experience) and a surprising number of Servants actually uses Light as an attack(Sherlock Holmes Magnifying Glasses buffs any light passing through them with enough Magical Energy to be a threat to Surtr-Sigurd in Ascension 1, Dioscuri and Charlemagne has Mana Burst: Light, Archimedes uses the same method that Sherlock Holmes does and his NP explicitly shows it at length, etc.)

Unless you mean Triple Accel was only talking about Dioscuri there.

Also damn, there are really a lot of surge for Frieren's thread.

And they are all absolute AIDS.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Eggman tries to throw hands with Broly

Both are Low 1-C Light-Man Eggman will be used Big Bang Mission Broly will be used Speed is equalized Fight ends in either incap or death Both are in-character "I am the EGGMAN! That's what I am!": 1 (omegabronic) "Me? A monster? No, I am the devil!": 0 Sonic and Goku come in and beat them...

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Eggman just spawns an alternate world and Subjective realities broly into obeying him

He doesn't need wheb first thing he does is use his haxes to make broly instantly loyal to him

Plus........what passives would Broly have to trow at Eggman? All that i can see in the profile are one's he needs to hit eggman first, which......good luck doing that as Eggman just Subjective reality the world to be what he wants

...Is this supposed to be Chaos Emerald Eggman or something? Because last time I checked, the dude still needs to build something, he just can't magically wizard shit up to that calibur midfight.

 

[Adamant soul]

Gremmy vs Gear 5 Luffy

For the sake of this thread, Gremmy's outer space feat will NOT count as a creation feat, but a transportation feat.

www.fanverse.org

I don't even agree for a bit that Luffy has better stats than Kenpachi at his absolute peak but he should win through sheer versatility I guess? Assuming he goes straight for the kill.

I really don't see why that's hard to believe when, short of RG and up level shit (which Kenpachi doesn't scale to), One Piece feats are just flatout better than Bleach's. Like you don't even need calcs for that, One Piece feats are blatantly more impressive.

Luffy ain't beating Kenpachi due to "versatility", he's just straight up beating him 'cause he's stronger outright.

The OBD will be the OBD, lol.

Says the guy whose trying to pretend Mustache literally sees every future all at once in the other thread, despite the fact we can blatantly tell that's not the case BECAUSE he is caught off guard several times.

How does Luffy put Gremmy down?

The exact same way Kenpachi did, just wait for the dumb shit to kill himself and hell unlike Kenpachi, Luffy isn't likely to prevent him from doing that early on.

 

[King]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/frieren-vs-nanoha-takamachi.1150361. lol Imao frieren don't deserve to be treated like that

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Says the guy whose trying to pretend Mustache literally sees every future all at once in the other thread, despite the fact we can blatantly tell that's not the case BECAUSE he is caught off guard several times.

In WorstGen, I have people repeat that same shit despite in the manga, you very clearly see Yhwach taking time to find the right "Future" to hit Ichigo with at one point...
Also they love to forget Yhwach actually tends to laser focus in a certain future at that as well and only switches if there is an obstacle in his way or he got tricked(Like with Orihime blocking him outright with her barrier).

 

[Crimson Dragoon]

Lmfao no, the firepower of the Disney canon Palpatine is far beyond anything that Frieren could ever hope to comprehend. EU Palpatine would solo anyone in her verse. Both versions of Palps do have the power to take down Frieren.

If we’re talking Legends, a nobody like Brakiss would stomp Frieren, let alone Darth Fucking Sidious

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/frieren-vs-sauron-palpatine-voldemort.1150250/page-3?post=99690782#post-99690782

Much like Yor Briar (Spy x Family) Frieren isn't that broken or standout of a character, she just stands out because her in character response to a fight starting is to immediately vibe check her opponent. In an extremely lethal manner. Ironically Fern is even better at that, though her comparative lack of hax defences make her a lesser matchup in all other regards.

Point being, this discussion is all ignoring that in character none of these three will respond to a fight as quickly as she will, and I'm pretty doubtful any of them can deal with her opener.

Sauron has nothing. Voldemort is likely to shield if anything, and that won't work. Palpatine will see it coming due to Force reactions but he can't block it and the strongest version of him absolutely does not have the agility to dodge it.

14 likes for a literal "Nah, I'd win" post... unbelievable. It's funnier when you realize Frieren would be going at the amazing speed of... Mach 1, something every person on this list(past Voldemort) is far faster than and can react far quicker then Frieren about.

 

[Adamant soul]

Gremmy vs Gear 5 Luffy

For the sake of this thread, Gremmy's outer space feat will NOT count as a creation feat, but a transportation feat.

www.fanverse.org

Nah. If Gremmy imagines he can't be hurt, that isn't doing anything.

Just like when he tried that against Kenpachi and...still got cut anyway. ha

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/frieren-vs-sauron-palpatine-voldemort.1150250/page-3?post=99692141#post-99692141

This is considered a benchmark for a mage in Frieren. This is a better combat feat than anything the trio have either performed or survived.

...Man, the Frieren wank in SB is fucking shameful, for real...
This is literal Overlord levels of wank and is basically gonna eclipse DS and JJK for real.

Remember that this is literally in the same thread as this:



and this:



This isn't even getting into the most bullshit feats Cal does in Jedi Survivor nor what Disney Legends does with Darth Vader that they are refusing to touch to point out Frieren has no chance(i.e. Cal stopping an "Great Red Spot" tier Storm with The Force).
God, no one looks good on either side.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/frieren-vs-sauron-palpatine-voldemort.1150250/page-3?post=99694445#post-99694445

While there is a lot of Frieren over-estimating going on lately

Nah, you think?! This thread is proof of that alone and we can literally dig through the gills for the series Frieren legit defeats vs. what you fuckers wank out of your asses to pretend she has a chance in.

this is one of those cases where she is well within her league.

ONLY against Voldemort.

One of the issues Sauron has is that LoTR is just not built for VS debates as it's written as if it were mythology;

You can do VS. Debates with Mythological Characters, Death Battle literally did it with Heracles vs. Sun Wukong and many people wanted them to do more including DB themselves... Sauron as well as most of the other LoTR characters is no exception to this.

characters do things whilst drenched in ambiguity and without explanation of how;

Dude, they don't need to explain how they did a feat, if they did a feat, then that's more than enough. Do we need an explanation of how different Elves are than Numenoorians to explain why Legolas can "jump good"?

they're depicted in an imaginative state for the reader to watch in their minds.

You can literally say that about all fiction, how is this supposed to be a rebuttal?

Honestly the Silmarillion is the world's most eloguent lore dump.

Yes it is... that's the point of the Silmarillion's existence... still doesn't stop it from literally having feats be stated in it's pages which means it's fair game for any VS. debate.

Like I know I keep saying it and it honestly amazes me that they really have become this:
Most of these users are from the dumping grounds of the other VS. sites that didn't want these rejects anymore

 

[Type-Rey]

The movie Eye is still >> by holding Barad-dur and the lands of Mordor in place.

The fuck are we talking about here.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

The movie Eye is still >> by holding Barad-dur and the lands of Mordor in place.

The fuck are we talking about here.

Someone who acted as if they actually read The Silmarillion and watched LoTR which we can easily tell they didn't...
Story in SB's life.

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/frieren-vs-sauron-palpatine-voldemort.1150250/page-4?post=99695387#post-99695387

Here's an example of someone showing that "glorious" lack of reading comprehension:

Now the lightnings increased and slew men upon the hills, and in the fields, and in the streets of the city; and a fiery bolt smote the dome of the Temple and shore it asunder, and it was wreathed in flame. But the Temple itself was unshaken, and Sauron stood there upon the pinnacle and defied the lightning and was unharmed; and in that hour men called him a god and did all that he would. When therefore the last portent came they heeded it little. For the land shook under them, and a groaning as of thunder underground was mingled with the roaring of the sea, and smoke issued from the peak of the Meneltarma. But all the more did Ar-Pharazon press on with his armament.

Apparently, Sauron never got hit by the Lightning...

Wrong.
Also, the whole "defying the lightning" thing is useless as a feat.

And that's mainly because it doesn't actually say he got hit by the lightning, merely that he defied it. I could stand on the beach and defy the ocean without even getting wet.
Honestly if he had gotten hit directly with some heavenly lightning directly from Illuvitar I couldn't see him coming out of it entirely unharmed.
Unless of course Illuvitar intentionally made the attack so weak that it wouldn't harm Sauron, which on its own would make it useless as a feat.

despite the sentence literally stating he "defied the lightning"

Definition of DEFY

to confront with assured power of resistance : disregard; to resist attempts at : withstand; to challenge to do something considered impossible : dare… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

to confront with assured power of resistance : disregard
: to resist attempts at : withstand
: to challenge to do something considered impossible : dare

 

[Cryso Agori]

Satoru Gojo in HxH

What wank is HxH receiving?

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Niggas just don't know how to READ.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Satoru Gojo in HxH

What wank is HxH receiving?

www.fanverse.org

I find it weird how people assume Infinity can’t tank Blues, Reds & Purples rather than going for the most sensible take which is Limitless users not being invulnerable to their own moves.

It’s consistently shown in-universe that Infinity can tank anything that isn’t hax tailor made to bypass it.

I legit don't understand how people can continually make up shit about Limitless despite being described at length multiple times and even given weaknesses at that(Jogo and Nanami actually could have potentially dealt with Limitless they way they did... if they was strong enough to matter against Gojo which they wasn't).

When in the hell was it ever stated Red/Blue/Purple can bypass Limitless? Because if that was the case, then Red and Blue should be as much of a danger to Gojo is despite him using them at close range or teleporting with Blue.
It's pretty apparent MShadows is now a JJK Fanboy but this is some massive headcanon here.

 

[GaRbS]

@GaRbS What's your worstgen pfp from?

It's Scion (Valdoll in Japan), the final boss from the CAPCOM fighting game, Red Earth (Warzard in Japan).

No, there are actually many times Servants can go Lightspeed or even faster(There are quite a few points in F/SN-F/Z-HA era alone where Servants are stated to attack "As fast as light"),

Most of those from FSN are mistranslations. And the few that aren't are hyperbole.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Most of those from FSN are mistranslations. And the few that aren't are hyperbole.

No they aren't because you haven't proven at all which of them are mistranslations...
It's also funny because I'm certain you got that from the FGO Reddit where a dude was giving incorrect info for 10 years but the only things that was gotten from Beast's Lair... was nothing from F/SN whatsoever(It was primarily Interviews and of that how the other authors).

I'm guessing you are gonna use the Rheingold mistranslation as the major basis for this?

EDIT: Besides that, what "hyperbole"? Like this is why your arguments are shit and why I and others dog you and most of SB for it?
Like you want to basically point out that something isn't consistent is hyperbole but this isn't applied to other series where those same issues are applied at all. You then want to act as if there's "flowery language" despite that also being a common issue with fiction as a whole.
You can't keep using "No You" Arguments with nothing there, just giving a negative is not a basis for an argument, give some actual meat for your negative opinion or the shit is discarded.