Game Ranked Tower of God Mafia Thread

[Grammaton]

@Grammaton This is a genuine question and please don't call me dumb - I want to explore the world where we're not double vig but Ratchet is some sort of indie.

I think it's a bit bold to claim vig as SK - so are there any chance he could be some sort of a Bounty Hunter?

Or actually.. didn't someone already kinda claim to be a bounty hunter?

That’s roughly the neighbourhood I’m working in yes

 

[Magic]

I still think Ichigo/ Sigis is a good likelyhood of being aligned if Sigis flips scum.

I really don't know if Boobies (Formerly known as Ultra) v Magic is TvT. It could very well be two stubborn townies refusing to relent.
The thing is I feel both Magic and Ultra has good and bad posts

So I kinda feel what Ekko said; The town isn't towning

Ekko thought I was towning pretty hard. I don't think my posts are relative to ultra who continues to insist he has info on me, claimed his info incorrectly, and has already gone after multiple townies.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

I think my biggest concern is why Ichigo was presenting it as if it was a counter claim. Their role would be explicit on it being one-shot and on it being "the first town role that dies", I don't see how it has anything to do with what roles are left in the game beyond "Ratchet hasn't quite proven his shot". If it's on the merits of the claim, then he would have mentioned it yesterday.

I wasn't sure about Melkor saying the truth, so no.

No idea. If anything as scum I'd probably want two vigs about to kill people quicker ngl which I'd assume would be his thinking if he was scum.

If ichago shot cubey then we lynching ultra.

Why?

Ye

Not the position I’d think to hold if I think I hold a vig CC basically

I am not you.
I like to think before jumping to conclusions and claims.

Also how can we have 2 vigs AND a universal town backup? That is just silly unless Ichigo is lying and using a fake claim.

That would be silly

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Ichigo doesn't directly say he shot Cubey, Prof and Ratchet put that in his mouth, now he's rolling with it

I didn't want to claim.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

There was also this earlier in the day where Ichigo kept asking why nobody is looking at Gad

Which I felt was a bit off as he read the whole discussion between Me/Magic/Aurelian/Polar and seemed to shrug it off

Bold of you to assume I read it.

I still want to know why is Gad not discussed.

 

[MangoSenpai]

Ekko thought I was towning pretty hard. I don't think my posts are relative to ultra who continues to insist he has info on me, claimed his info incorrectly, and has already gone after multiple townies.

Claimed his info incorrectly, how?

If Ultra actually had tracked you and got the result that his target visited Cubey - then from his PoV it would be reasonable to say that he saw you visit Cubey.

Aurellian came to dispell that claim - which confirms that there is either someone lying or redirector..

But actually..

If I am to abide by yours and @Grammaton's insistance that there are no duplicates then that would mean that one of you, Aurellian and Ultra is lying. . .

It's ultra isn't it

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I am not you.
I like to think before jumping to conclusions and claims.

Except letting people talk about it would be lots of info from where you sit and that has nothing to do with it. Especially when you say you were wanting to see scum narrative around it yeah? (To that end what did you uncover by sitting back with it?)

 

[MangoSenpai]

That - or PB is lying - or there is a busser which bussed Polar's target so he actually redirected someone else - but that would be one hell of a coincidence

 

[Dr_Professor83]

You sure don’t talk to me like someone who has me as scum Ichigo. Weird!

 

[Magic]

Why?

Because there's no explanation for his results outside of another redirection role which seems unlikely so the most simple explanation is that he's lying

 

[MangoSenpai]

That - or PB is lying - or there is a busser which bussed Polar's target so he actually redirected someone else - but that would be one hell of a coincidence

The only way that would make sense is if Sigis was bussed with Ichigo

Ichigo both chose to kill Cubey and Polar coincidentally redirected Sigis (who is now Ichigo) to cubey as well

Ultra sees Ichigo kill Cubey



I think this is the ONLY way I can make sense of all the claims IF all the claims are true - but that is a hard sell even for me

 

[MangoSenpai]

The only way that would make sense is if Sigis was bussed with Ichigo

Ichigo both chose to kill Cubey and Polar coincidentally redirected Sigis (who is now Ichigo) to cubey as well

Ultra sees Ichigo kill Cubey



I think this is the ONLY way I can make sense of all the claims IF all the claims are true - but that is a hard sell even for me

No but that doesn't explain how he saw Ichigo if he targetted Magic..


Ultra has to be lying here

 

[Jaguark101]

Claimed his info incorrectly, how?

If Ultra actually had tracked you and got the result that his target visited Cubey - then from his PoV it would be reasonable to say that he saw you visit Cubey.

Aurellian came to dispell that claim - which confirms that there is either someone lying or redirector..

But actually..

If I am to abide by yours and @Grammaton's insistance that there are no duplicates then that would mean that one of you, Aurellian and Ultra is lying. . .

It's ultra isn't it

If its between those 4, who do you think its likely then?

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

You sure don’t talk to me like someone who has me as scum Ichigo. Weird!

I am answering.
I read you mafia but I am not so conceited to consider I have perfect reads.

Except letting people talk about it would be lots of info from where you sit and that has nothing to do with it. Especially when you say you were wanting to see scum narrative around it yeah? (To that end what did you uncover by sitting back with it?)

I believe that this is not only my job, but that of all the other townies.

 

[MangoSenpai]

If its between those 4, who do you think its likely then?

I think I've just concluded Ultra's story doesn't fit the narrative

 

[MangoSenpai]

Ultra's story cannot work in a world where there are no duplicate roles

 

[MangoSenpai]

Vote Lynch Ultra

 

[Dr_Professor83]

The only way that would make sense is if Sigis was bussed with Ichigo

Ichigo both chose to kill Cubey and Polar coincidentally redirected Sigis (who is now Ichigo) to cubey as well

Ultra sees Ichigo kill Cubey



I think this is the ONLY way I can make sense of all the claims IF all the claims are true - but that is a hard sell even for me

I think there’s a decent shot at scum in Ultra/Magic here bc it’s hard to make sense of everything no matter what. On the fence about which and the town of the two wouldn’t be making it easy if so

 

[Magic]

Claimed his info incorrectly, how?

If Ultra actually had tracked you and got the result that his target visited Cubey - then from his PoV it would be reasonable to say that he saw you visit Cubey.

It really isn't. That's what how bad players claim and I'm 100% serious about it. If your role results say target then you say them as presented as anything else is implying there is no chance of misdirection. He posted his results misleadingly and there is no debate, if, or what's about it. You can't continue to call him a great player then forgive mistakes that bad players make.

The pov you suggested is one of a noob that has no experience with misdirection roles.

Aurellian came to dispell that claim - which confirms that there is either someone lying or redirector..

Correct and the redirector is Polar who didn't use it on ultra.

But actually..

If I am to abide by yours and @Grammaton's insistance that there are no duplicates then that would mean that one of you, Aurellian and Ultra is lying. . .

It's ultra isn't it

Which is what I've been insisting.

Btw in a world where ratchet is indy/Bounty hunter/etc if he actually thought ultra is scum he wouldn't say it and say the opposite so ultra's team doesn't shoot him. He didn't want to lead day 1 and actively said he wanted to avoid it. His play aligned with indy prior to this phase but again it isn't some sort of focus town should have. I'm not saying all his analysis is wrong, but it would give him incentive to side with people he might think are scum so they avoid him.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I am answering.
I read you mafia but I am not so conceited to consider I have perfect reads.

I believe that this is not only my job, but that of all the other townies.

But you aren’t doing anything with it at all so apparently you think it’s not your job at all