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Dr_Professor83 said:
Tunnel to death isn’t necessarily. But making what looks like a genuine push matters (vs just picking at them and calling them possible scum. You’re free to tell me what’s much different about your play around Ultra here than Ratchet in XMas to show me how it’s totally different.

Also, the Jag-Gunsmith take is similar to the talking point and handling of Naomi-Hider from JJK. (Where a player was questioned due to somewhat similar host spec on role) - this is a little less 1-1 than the Ultra/Tweet stuff

Combine these things with passive play, and it’s concerning
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I think I’ve done a lot more than just pick at ultra. You apparently didn’t find magic’s arguments convincing and spent 2 days cheerleading for ultra in their feud, so what exactly changed your mind here?

I don’t even understand what the rest of your post means - I take it the approximate message is I’m not allowed to consider the likelihood of a role being real or fake?
 
Grammaton said:
Ultra, tpein, rdk

Don’t care about the order to any great degree. I should be around tonight
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have you addressed the fact we have a lyncher, and you've just used an example of a lyncher to try and convince me that ratchet is more likely indie than scum?
 
Grammaton said:
I think I’ve done a lot more than just pick at ultra. You apparently didn’t find magic’s arguments convincing and spent 2 days cheerleading for ultra in their feud, so what exactly changed your mind here?
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My biggest reason for not lynching Ultra/going with Magic was Ratchet putting the breaks on it.

With Ichigo claiming the Cubey kill, we now have either a missing mafia kill or serial kill for Ratchet to be vig. Which makes it look more likely for Ratchet to be indie. Therefor Ratchet’s hold on the Ultra lynch is less convincing.

And you can’t consider my positions on Ultra yesterday as cheerleading him.

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I don’t even understand what the rest of your post means - I take it the approximate message is I’m not allowed to consider the likelihood of a role being real or fake?
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You are, and it may not be AI. But it’s another thing that strikes me as a possible pattern. If I’m noticing more than one then they start to concern me more. In isolation I’d probably easily draw it up as a coincidence.

Fwiw, I could see Jag as scum with Ultra plausibly and if so, then I wouldn’t put you on that team
 
RDK said:
can you talk me through why ultra is scum pls ideally including N1 action resolution broken down to me as if I were a 4 year old
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Ultra claims tracking Magic to the Cubey kill

Fang says that isn’t true bc he watched Magic and saw no one visit him

Polar claims redirecting Sigi to Cubey (and therefor possibly sending a kill there, this was hinted at start of day)

Ultra only isn’t lying based on everything else if we have 2 redirectors (unless Polar lied for ?? reasons as scum at start of day) or something very wonky like a nexus. Ultra has also been in a complete death tunnel of Magic, and I think some of his thoughts around Magic don’t track (like thinking Magic was mafia and looking for equity around him and reading people off of their play around Magic all while thinking he killed Cubey which looks like a serial kill I think to any normal person before a mafia kill)
 
RDK said:
have you addressed the fact we have a lyncher, and you've just used an example of a lyncher to try and convince me that ratchet is more likely indie than scum
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Huh

The role said lyncher but he wasn’t a lyncher, or anything close to it. Just had to outlive 3 specific characters, had no agency and no ability to kill.

Remember the non standard indie wincons you were trying to shade me for? Good job on that!
 
Dr_Professor83 said:
Ultra claims tracking Magic to the Cubey kill

Fang says that isn’t true bc he watched Magic and saw no one visit him

Polar claims redirecting Sigi to Cubey (and therefor possibly sending a kill there, this was hinted at start of day)

Ultra only isn’t lying based on everything else if we have 2 redirectors (unless Polar lied for ?? reasons as scum at start of day) or something very wonky like a nexus. Ultra has also been in a complete death tunnel of Magic, and I think some of his thoughts around Magic don’t track (like thinking Magic was mafia and looking for equity around him and reading people off of their play around Magic all while thinking he killed Cubey which looks like a serial kill I think to any normal person before a mafia kill)
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wasn't sigi vanilla?

sounds like we should just lynch ultra if it's he said/she said between him and magic but ultra has info from Fang supporting his side?
 
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