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This was Ratchet's town read of Jag early D1 too. Later in the game, he did go back and forth with Jag's slot, but this kinda seems too easy from scum Ratchet to town read a teammate this way (?)


Ratchet voted RDK last day phase in his first post. Could be a bus vote to regain his thread status after the Ultra flip, or a vote to appeal to the majority who suspect RDK, I'm leaning more to the former.

Any thoughts are welcome.


Also, these were Ratchet's reads on the day he got lynched. Lethal's there for obvious reasons, question is how much we trust the other slots.

I highly doubt Ratchet puts all his mates there. So if Lethal's there already, I anticipate at most 1 more.

See I don’t see his jag read like that- at worst it’s plausible he’s giving a new player a somewhat protected into into the game

His claim is also a shittier version of mangos, with less shots and less utility - it doesn’t fulfil any additional purpose given how mango would get results, and is basically tantamount to having a second cop with scope for misleading results
 
Went and ISO'd Watson:

Day 1 -------------
@MangoSenpai

Ratchet is a null for me - he stays firmly planted in my "do not trust, he will push you off a cliff in a pool of orcas and laugh. Fuck that guy" reads. So he's an impressive threat and very capable.

When I see more dialogue between Mags and him I'm sure it'll also help solidify a read past null - because that's where the meat is, not the bristle.

As scum, I think he'd strategically use your high regard for him to lull you into a false sense of security but I don't think he's doing that here

As town, he'd give a sense security in a different way like encouraging further engagement from you, do specific things - a town tell from him - like tag a suspect or a person he reads town. And he's far more pushy about getting a different perspective as town by deconstructing the logic

He's more linear in a sense and he tends to stray less from topics to avoid scum using irrelevant points to their advantage and shuts that shit down quick. but it's also not necessarily a de facto ultra Town tell. Just something I perceived

Magic vs Ratchet (or Ultra vs Ratchet) always helps paint a clearer picture on them for me and idk why
This read of Ratchet is really bad for me 'cause she doesn't really take a stance on him. However, it at least logically tracks with her "I'm paranoid of Ratchet" phrase.

Where is my vote needed



This is actually something I didn't consider before, actually. I don't think Magic was planting seeds however, but it could be an unintentional consequence and add additional paranoia when none was present. Just by talking about it

People are very fallible, with this in mind I'm gonna ISO Ratchet and look at it from this angle as it's definitely happened to me before where he was within his town range but was colored falsely and different by paranoid town enough to sway me

What are things that should be looked into when it comes to Ratchet pulling strings? Are there like some habits I haven't seen or noticed
Good post towards Ultra who was scum reading Magic.

Fwiw I think Mags is town

But he has a particular tell that makes it easy for me to identify him when he's town, so it's probably difficult to see
Says Magic is town later, and again going against Ultra and by extension Ratchet's push.

@Magic your expertise as well sir

The creeping paranoia I want to avoid from myself this game but not enough to ignore warning signals and losing to a scum Ratchet in the most ridiculous way like last time
Appeals to the paranoia she's facing in regards to Ratchet.

Feel better!!

Mango and Magic read I'm happy with from you, seems we're getting on a similar page, hmm
Gives a more positive read on Luka because he town reads Mango and Magic, again that goes against Ultra and Ratchet's push.

I think this is NAI for him

He posts a lot of things that isn't necessarily alignment indicative - I think he's just naturally a high volume poster (to others' dismay) and somewhat erratic at times with his activity

He also switches his range on purpose and tries to avoid echoing his other scum play to compartmentalize for sure tho
Tells Melkor about Luka's meta and kinda helps Melkor.

Was waiting for this post to be smug about my assumption

atta boy

Ultra WASHED not knowing what Mags was going for to begin with. Spread the news
Goes against Ultra again in favor of Magic.

You know Ratchet, fairly sure you know Ultra

Got reads on em?
Asks MissingNo for reads on Ratchet and Ultra (2 scum)

Why least confident? I think he had a much stronger entrance than Gad that pinged me as town, it mirrors his usual process when he's town
Town reads Rugrat who flipped town on night 1.

I don't see any self-depreciating?
Goes against Ultra again, but this time in regards to Tweet.

I honest to God think he's just doing it out of spite so I don't know if I'd count the Gad read as literal sus, Gad is just noise to him

:lul:LULZ


Although him going for LHF is unbecoming of him, just like a filthy woman
Goes against Ultra once more saying he's going after LHF.

He hasn't been doing that tho
Again against Ultra but this time with respect to Gad.

Day 2 --------------------

So you voted for Melkor because you suspected that Luka was scum and...?
This was Ratchet bringing attention to Watson's Melkor vote that Prof brought attention to Day 1.

Used as LHF??????
Literally is one of the easier moves for a scum team to pull off and has happened countless games, what the fuck do you think I thought? Ultra you aren't new to Melkor. You have an entire encyclopedia on Melkor's inherent scumminess

Do you not think he was LHF this time?
Her replies to Ultra about his question to her regarding her Melkor vote.

I don't know what you thought, you provided an explanation that you voted Melkor because you suspected the person pushing him, as if it was completely self explanatory
Plain English Watson, Yes or No, did you think suspect Melkor was scum because you thought Luka was bussing him
Questions to Watson ^

Her answer to the above question.

I'll be back
And she never came back after this.
 
I think day 1 Watson has enough posts that go against Ultra and support Magic. Her day 2 replies to Ultra's questions were just weird as shit, but I didn't get the feeling that Ultra and Watson were distancing in that interaction.
 
See I don’t see his jag read like that- at worst it’s plausible he’s giving a new player a somewhat protected into into the game

His claim is also a shittier version of mangos, with less shots and less utility - it doesn’t fulfil any additional purpose given how mango would get results, and is basically tantamount to having a second cop with scope for misleading results
You could be right. Frankly, I'm just hesitant because part of me thinks his action might be a genuine newbie mistake last night.
 
Eh, screw it. I'm done overthinking this. If Jag understood his role well enough like he claimed, then I don't think he'd have been swayed by other players' posts to investigate a slot he'd get no reliable info from.

Vote Lynch Jag
 
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