Phoenix Down revives KNOCKED OUT party members (most versions of it literally say revives KO'ed party members), not dead ones.Could casting Phoenix Down counter that?
It ain't doing shit against complete existence erasure.
Phoenix Down revives KNOCKED OUT party members (most versions of it literally say revives KO'ed party members), not dead ones.Could casting Phoenix Down counter that?
Oh, only Saint Seiya and DBS are worth a damn, mostly due to speed and haxInteresting, now mind telling me what you think is the strongest WSJ that both characters can reasonably solo lol.
I'm confused, are you saying that they solo DBS and Saint Seiya due to their speed and hax?Oh, only Saint Seiya and DBS are worth a damn, mostly due to speed and hax
Because of shit like Gilgamesh considering Cloud a rival akin to Bartz, bare minimum we’re talking is Galuf second wind fighting Exdeath after overpowering a crystal equal to 1/8th the power of the Void
The Void, and FF in general are further into multiversal than most Shonen Jump offerings.
Really there are people on spacebattles who really think MHA and Demon Slayer stands a chance against FF7 characters at peak?they still lose from the likes of 5% mha and kimetsu lands
in spacebattles
Dragon Ball is the only one that comes to mind for everything you just listedWhat series have defenses against transmutation (frog/petrification), time manipulation (slow/stop/Whispers), spacial manipulation (gravity/Shadow Flare), mental manipulation (illusions, telepathy, mind-control), vitality manipulation (death, Heartless Angel)? Who can come back from being bamfed to another dimension or travel to another dimension under their own power? Those are the hax things that Sephiroth can do.
You mean WSJ, since that's the scope of this thread.Dragon Ball is the only one that comes to mind for everything you just listed
Most Shonen are kinda screwed to time manipulation alone
Just the hax mentioned, Medaka Box, Undead Unluck, Saint Seiya, Dragon Ball, Houshin Engi, Bastard!!, Shaman King, Jojo's, Dragon Quest Dai Adventures and probably others that doesn't cross my mind right now or i didn't know. But they had characters that had deffense agains those hax.What series have defenses against transmutation (frog/petrification), time manipulation (slow/stop/Whispers), spacial manipulation (gravity/Shadow Flare), mental manipulation (illusions, telepathy, mind-control), vitality manipulation (death, Heartless Angel)? Who can come back from being bamfed to another dimension or travel to another dimension under their own power? Those are the hax things that Sephiroth can do.
Then that is where the comparisons should start. What are the stats of the top tiers in those verses?Just WSJ or also other Shueisha's magazines like Jump Square and mangaplus/jump+?
Just the hax mentioned, Medaka Box, Undead Unluck, Saint Seiya, Dragon Ball, Houshin Engi, Bastard!!, Shaman King, Jojo's, Dragon Quest Dai Adventures and probably others that doesn't cross my mind right now or i didn't know. But they had characters that had deffense agains those hax.
No, I’m saying DBS and SS only win by virtue of better speed and hax. FF is deeper into multiversal when the scale comes up.I'm confused, are you saying that they solo DBS and Saint Seiya due to their speed and hax?
Gilgamesh and the Interdimensional RiftAnd that's with implied scaling to other FF universes or crossover scalings?
I thought I only intended this to be just FF7 characters with their own scaling (outside of Dissidia as a bonus round). But okay I guess...
It seems the only Yugioh characters with tiering or series whose cosmology is arguably well beyond low-multiversal size or range is the manga version of Yugioh Arc-V with this protagonist named Yuya Sakaki with G.O.D. based on statements (scans courtesy of whoever did his profile on VSBW):Yugioh top tiers are multiversal, although it comes mostly from the anime (then again apparently the Duel Links manga canonized everything or some shit like that? Not too sure)