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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

Atem

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Tablos said:
He is Soldier Boy's son, who was tortured for decades by the Russians and they tried to harm/kill with radiation, poison and so.
If Homelander inherited some of his father inmunities then he will be fine agaisnt most of the conventional toxins in the world , like the only gas that can K.O Soldier Boy was Novichok , the most dangerous chemical weapon ever made IRL.
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That was unique to Soldier Boy. The blast he made use of was extremely radioactive, and burned through any Compound V. Rendering anyone with powers powerless. How he was immune to it was a mystery, and might have something to do with the experiments backfiring. Instead of killing Soldier Boy, they made him stronger.

Which puts into question whether Homelander can actually survive large doses of radiation. When it has been shown to fry V.
 
Xhominid The Apex

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Arcueid Brunestud

Arcueid Brunestud as a True Ancestor and Brain of the Planet: Arcueid Brunestud is a True Ancestor, a being created by the planet to counter the threat of humans. She is the most successful clone of the Crimson Moon, and as a True Ancestor, she received the ability to manipulate the very planet...
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As a true ancestor, she wields planet status. A status of being superior to all Gods and Divine Spirits alike
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It's a bit of a stretch to go that far, I won't lie about that...

Arcueid is also referred to as the brain of the planet, a very special existence, because it needs to have the capacity to store the entire planet’s energy into itself. This status allows her to manipulate energy down to planck length density, making her a walking singularity. Her Principle also allows her to store all textures on earth, this includes places like Avalon, odd underworlds, mythological textures, and of course the Age of Man texture along with the Tree of Time which includes all parallel worlds.
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1. Her "Principle" isn't unique to herself, all True Ancestors have it to a degree. What they should focus on is her ability to create the Millennium Castle but it doesn't make her come off as powerful.

2. The Timelines are not connected to Textures... it's thinking that the Lostbelts are Textures which while true, ignores that they was supposed to be the main reality till they got shunted off for being a dead end.

Archetype Earth as an Ultimate One: Archetype Earth is considered the true form of Arcueid Brunestud. Archetype Earth acts like an Ultimate One of the Earth and is the Will of the Planet itself to protect from threats that can destroy it. She is one of the most powerful entities in the Type-Moon universe.

While she is technically a candidate for the position of Ultimate One of Earth, she still acts like one. This form is stronger because she doesn’t need to use a majority of her power to hold back the urge to drink blood. She is the closest thing on the planet to a Type, but because her origin is from the Moon, she technically doesn’t count.
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1. Thanks to Lostbelt 7, we have complete knowledge of what an Archetype is so I have no idea why they love not bringing that up.

2. It contradicts itself as canonically, she is not an Ultimate One yet. In the old continuity? You could make the case but in the new continuity? No. That level of power she has is due to just being a candidate and her state of being.

The rest of it is just repeating itself or basically going full stupid with the state of how they wank her abilities because VSB is on it's high horse.
 
Salfarc

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Tablos said:
He is Soldier Boy's son, who was tortured for decades by the Russians and they tried to harm/kill with radiation, poison and so.
If Homelander inherited some of his father inmunities then he will be fine agaisnt most of the conventional toxins in the world , like the only gas that can K.O Soldier Boy was Novichok , the most dangerous chemical weapon ever made IRL.
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Atem said:
That was unique to Soldier Boy. The blast he made use of was extremely radioactive, and burned through any Compound V. Rendering anyone with powers powerless. How he was immune to it was a mystery, and might have something to do with the experiments backfiring. Instead of killing Soldier Boy, they made him stronger.

Which puts into question whether Homelander can actually survive large doses of radiation. When it has been shown to fry V.
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Therefore, we can say that the president can test how good the poison resistance of homelander is by purposefully creating scenarios where Homelander will be poisoned/radiated without him realizing. Such as when he eat, purposefully telling people to give him radiated food/poisonous food like using Cyanide as ingridient. Or when he sleep give him small dose radiation ray or whatever and increase the dose periodically.

Do it subtly to check how far does it work, if it doesn't work try another method if it works, keep doing it to the extend that by the time he realizes, its too late.
 
Salfarc

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Manga panel shows something happens to Ywhach, Yhwach turns out fine and then claim he changed the future.

Asks "Ask yourself this if he can change the future, how does something, anything happens to him?"

This guy answer "Because he change the future"

"How does he change the future if it happens anyway?"

"Because he change the future?"

"How? When we still see action against him happens, if he change the future where the action didn't happen, we wouldn't see it"

"Because he simply change the future"

Bleach argument is smthg
 
AlterSullivan

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Xhominid The Apex said:
It's a bit of a stretch to go that far, I won't lie about that...
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That one's taken from the Fate/Extra material entry. True Ancestors are stated to be planet-class spirits and rank higher than Gods/Divine Spirits. I wouldn't say it's exactly inaccurate.
Fate/complete material IV: Extra Material - Fate/EXTRA - Characters - Gatou Monji & Berserker, p.25
Gatou Monji & Berserker
Gatou Monji is an strange Master that worships Berserker as a God. He is a man that carries various religions so his speech can't be understood. Berserker was originally an spirit from the Earth called "True Ancestor" but, due to Gatou's misconceptions that say "she = God" her status downgraded from Planet to God, making her unable to properly display her abilities. During battle her Noble Phantasm uses gravity as means of attack, causing great damage
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It makes a lot of sense narratively when you consider TAs are the planet's best attempt to create a TYPE. As Gil stated in CCC the Gods are also part of Gaia's Counter Force but they weren't considered as an attempt to create an Alter Ego of Earth/TYPE.

Xhominid The Apex said:
2. It contradicts itself as canonically, she is not an Ultimate One yet. In the old continuity? You could make the case but in the new continuity? No. That level of power she has is due to just being a candidate and her state of being.
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Actually I'd say the opposite is true. Arcueid can't yet be referred to as the 'ONE' because Altrouge exists as an entity of the same scale. If there are two entities of relative power neither of them can be the 'ONE' but that doesn't take away from their power, since the keyword is 'referred as'; it's a title.
Archetype: Earth's FGO Profile
In the world of Tsukihime, the strongest existence of a celestial body is known as the Ultimate One (Original One), a position that the awakened Arcueid is applicable for. However, until things are settled with Altrouge, a being 'that forms the celestial' on the same scale, she cannot be referred to as the 'ONE'.
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So Arcueid won't be getting a power up if Altrouge is no longer there. Reason being Remake states Arcueid's ability to increase her power above her opponent is a limiter rather than an enabler.

Also worth noting Awakened Arcueid is the one that fought Ciel in the true route. So that version of Arcueid already has the power of the Ultimate One (Original One) as per the FGO profile, just not the title yet due to Altrouge currently existing.
Tsukihime Material I
After being broken as a True Ancestor beyond repair, she grew greatly interested in Shiki, and this interest eventually developed into affection, which was taken to extreme level of loving Shiki's life, so she wants to protect not only Shiki himself, but also everything Shiki approves. Except when she is rampaging or awakened. In Ciel's route, the awakened Arc's directive was to first obtain Shiki, and only then respect his life. And to obtain Shiki, she chose the frightening method of eliminating all obstacles.
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Xhominid The Apex said:
The rest of it is just repeating itself or basically going full stupid with the state of how they wank her abilities because VSB is on it's high horse.
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Yeah, I don't know about 'hyperversal level'. Though that seems to be more of an issue they have with Type Moon in general looking at their other profiles. Kind of a shame because this is a pretty accurate and concise description of Event Storage:
She can turn anything in the textures or perhaps even the texture itself into lower dimensional equivalents, she was flattening everything into 2 dimensional making it not experience time and depriving it of mass an ability called 2-dimensionalization. It's the equivalent of anything being turned into nothing but a sheet of paper and being stored in her event storage. Furthermore, she can deprive anything on earth of its essence using event storage, she deprived the entire surface texture of its essence and peeled it off sending it somewhere else to replace it with a world she wants.)
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Xhominid The Apex

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1. That never happened, where the fuck is he getting that shit from? She became a "blob monster", went nuts for a bit and then went for the huge TSB after she reconfigured herself back to "normal"

2. Yeah, that's a massive retcon because Kurama officially killed himself and Kishimoto regretted as per usual, I can see why people believe otherwise especially as Kishimoto refuses to explain HOW Kurama was resurrected not in Naruto, not in the general world which was implied what would happen if the Jinchikurri was killed, but in Himawari.

3. Yeah no, that's still a massive pull of the ass of Kaguya's regeneration and her other shit while trying to tack on a terrible retcon into her list of shit to go through...
 
Blade

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Atem said:
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Anyway, here's Sullynathan's respect thread for Elric. It seems like while the cosmology is impressive, Elric himself needs prep to really achieve any of his high end stuff. Otherwise, he gets harmed by World War 2 era weaponry.
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here we go again, ww2 era guns > elric top tiers :mjlol

revival of chariot level elric is back, episode 1 rwby mooks solo :yousmart when they gonna learn, its 2024, when they gonna drop that dupeversal salt act about elric land, smh
 
Paxton

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Ok yeah no looking at his writing style it does seem like him from what I remember
 
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