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That's a bunch of word salad unless you actually quantify what they can do.

Apparently, your ass can't read either.
Look at what you said from the last post:

YHVH = / = the Great Will (which is likely a separate being from the Great Reason, idk, modern Atlus writing is a meme).

And realize that they killed THAT Great Will and no, there is no such being as the Great Reason either, the fuck you talking about?
 
Apparently, your ass can't read either.
Look at what you said from the last post:



And realize that they killed THAT Great Will and no, there is no such being as the Great Reason either, the fuck you talking about?
Read Stephen's dialogue in Apocalypse.

The Axiom that he is referring to is the English translation of the Great Reason.
 
Oh yeah FYI, you guys DO know that despite the other gods being Demons... everything they have done in their mythologies, the places and otherwise are still truth right?

In the 3rd Last Bible game, you literally go through the Tree of Life to get to Lucifer's crib and a number of games has you going around and dealing with places in different myths and otherwise...
So ultimately, I don't see how the Tanagram crap really helps them anyway even WITHOUT touching on the insanity that is the Last Bible Sub Series.
 
Oh yeah FYI, you guys DO know that despite the other gods being Demons... everything they have done in their mythologies, the places and otherwise are still truth right?

In the 3rd Last Bible game, you literally go through the Tree of Life to get to Lucifer's crib and a number of games has you going around and dealing with places in different myths and otherwise...
So ultimately, I don't see how the Tanagram crap really helps them anyway even WITHOUT touching on the insanity that is the Last Bible Sub Series.
Convenient that you say this yet To Aru running off of a direct equivalent to human cognition/observation shenanigans in SMT which creates/forms phase beings from human belief suddenly isn't applicable.
 
Convenient that you say this yet To Aru running off of a direct equivalent to human cognition/observation shenanigans in SMT which creates/forms phase beings from human belief suddenly isn't applicable.

...Uh-huh, sure it is...
At this point, you are just basically making your own shit up without any evidence and want to cover your ass. Niggas literally killed/defeated The Great Will, something beyond YHVH and even the Lucifer that killed and took over YHVH's knowledge in SMTV.

Again, Othinus nor anyone else has anything close to The Great Will.
 
And since when are there multiple Great Wills? The one in Last Bible blatantly isn't the Great Will that YHVH serves/acts as an emissary of, it's just an imposter.

Just like how YHVH calls itself "The one true god" when that's blatantly not true.


As seen by the fact that there's still conflict going on all across the SMT "multiverse". If the Great Will that YHVH served was truly defeated that wouldn't be the case.
 
...Uh-huh, sure it is...
At this point, you are just basically making your own shit up without any evidence and want to cover your ass. Niggas literally killed/defeated The Great Will, something beyond YHVH and even the Lucifer that killed and took over YHVH's knowledge in SMTV.

Again, Othinus nor anyone else has anything close to The Great Will.
Real convincing. If you think I'm making shit up then ask for a citation, rather than flagrantly calling me a liar like you're 10 years old at the playground.



There's no evidence that the Great Will in Last Bible is the same Great Will that YHVH serves, last I checked.

Feel free to correct me though.
 
Convenient that you say this yet To Aru running off of a direct equivalent to human cognition/observation shenanigans in SMT which creates/forms phase beings from human belief suddenly isn't applicable.
Oh I don't know, maybe the fact Toaru blatantly ignores or contradicts the Myths it takes unlike SMT which makes a note to accurately match them and state they are one and the same? :really
 
Oh I don't know, maybe the fact To Aru blatantly ignores or contradicts the Myths it takes unlike SMT which makes a note to accurately match them and state they are one and the same? :really
And you're basing this on what exactly?
 
And since when are there multiple Great Wills? The one in Last Bible blatantly isn't the Great Will that YHVH serves/acts as an emissary of, it's just an imposter.

It is literally The Great Will you fucking idiot, it's stated by a dude who is actually a good translator, do you have proof it's a fake?

As seen by the fact that there's still conflict going on all across the SMT "multiverse". If the Great Will that YHVH served was truly defeated that wouldn't be the case.

...YHVH was killed in SMTV long in advance of a major war and strife still happened and YHVH is an extension of the Great Will in all of the series...

Real convincing. If you think I'm making shit up then ask for a citation, rather than flagrantly calling me a liar like you're 10 years old at the playground.



There's no evidence that the Great Will in Last Bible is the same Great Will that YHVH serves, last I checked.

Feel free to correct me though.

My dude, you literally contradict yourself as there's nothing at all stating that Othinus or any other Magic Gods are the same as the beings in the Phases... which would be the Gods that Othinus and the Magic Gods are seen as...

At this point, your brain has truly melted.
 
It is literally The Great Will you fucking idiot, it's stated by a dude who is actually a good translator, do you have proof it's a fake?



...YHVH was killed in SMTV long in advance of a major war and strife still happened and YHVH is an extension of the Great Will in all of the series...




My dude, you literally contradict yourself as there's nothing at all stating that Othinus or any other Magic Gods are the same as the beings in the Phases... which would be the Gods that Othinus and the Magic Gods are seen as...

At this point, your brain has truly melted.
..so you admit it's not the actual Great Will, since if it were defeated, there would be no conflict being spurred on by the Great Will.
YHVH calls itself the one true god, so that must be definitely true as well, right?



Who said anything about Magic Gods? They're former humans, not phase beings.

Are you serious?
 
Othinus' existence as she is seen as Odin and many other gods despite explicitly not being Odin or any god whatsoever...
The easiest thing in the World.
You're blatantly not reading then.

Othinus = / = Odin the phase being.

:facepalm
 
And you're basing this on what exactly?
You mean like Odin being seen as a little girl is meant to be accurate now?
Also fucking rich to see you try to say the Great Will in Last Bible is an Imposter when nothing states this once so you are outright lying just to try to weasel your way into downplaying it.
 
You mean like Odin being seen as a little girl is meant to be accurate now?
Also fucking rich to see you try to say the Great Will in Last Bible is an Imposter when nothing states this once so you are outright lying just to try to weasel your way into downplaying it.
Because Odin the phase being isn't Othinus, genius.
 
..so you admit it's not the actual Great Will, since if it were defeated, there would be no conflict being spurred on by the Great Will.

Who said anything about Magic Gods? They're former humans, not phase beings.

Are you serious?

Yeah, you are suffering some absolute brain rot to suddenly go "That's not the Great Will because there would be no conflict" when there is nothing at all stating The Great Will causes conflict. YHVH is just it's extension and it's explicitly stated by Atlus that a massive fucking in Reality caused Him to go even harder than his Old Testament self.

Secondly, you just proved the point right there so how the hell does To Aru benefit from shit in the Phase? Which is not connected to the Universe in the fashion you are coming up with.

You're blatantly not reading then.

Othinus = / = Odin the phase being.

:facepalm

Yes and thus, why would anyone scale from them in the first place? Especially when the Magic Gods exist?
 
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