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Round 1 is CS4 Rean
what the fuck, this isn’t even remotely fair
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what the fuck, this isn’t even remotely fair
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Myralice
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Every site should have two separate vs forums.Round 1 is CS4 Rean
what the fuck, this isn’t even remotely fairha
One for fair matchups and the other is just the roman coliseum where you put malnourished peasants versus starved and angry animals, because clearly someone is getting off on watching one side getting run over.
Anyone knows damn well a blood lusted Flash at his peak folds Clark like he owes him moneyMy nigga Jinnobi coming in with that truly S-tier logic.The Flash (Wally West) vs Superman
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His debating skills are like that of a 5-D chess master, truly. I wonder why no one else ever thought to bring up how the comic book authors would write it for a versus debate? Oh wait...
Everyone except the true master of versus debating, Jinnobi.Anyone knows damn well a blood lusted Flash at his peak folds Clark like he owes him money
Because as we all know, only the writers' opinion matters in a vs debate, right?
I kinda have to just put this in here to be a nagging arse, but I hate when anime does the whole "uguhh" shit that Rin does in that scene before Archer slaps her away because it kinda breaks the this is how fast things are happening mood, because you wouldn't have the time to say "impossible", "So fast" or just random noises of shock/surprise because it's just gonna invite that one asshole who goes "well they can't be hypersonic because you wouldn't be able to say that in that timeframe".
Anime was a mistake.
It's just one of those deals that usually happens with the medium itself. It's supposed to show off, quite frankly, that even to these superhumans, if a Servant wants to end a fight/end you... they absolutely can and will.
Of course yes, it doesn't make any sense in the same fashion that in Bleach, you have characters surprised they get blitzed in speed... only to suddenly react to them like normal and have no issues ever again which makes you wonder why they was surprised over the speed in the first place?
Myralice
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What we need is for someone to make a compilation of anime characters talking at x200 speed to really give us that immersion.
Imagine... Naruto, but everyone talks at the same speed they're fighting.
Ey yo @OtherGalaxy, Quora be up to those mismatches again.
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Unicron (Transformers) and Scarlet King (SCP) vs Zeno (Dragon Ball Super) and Doraemon (Doraemon series), who will win a team fight?
Answer (1 of 5): Incredible Mismatch, especially what the hell Doraemon is doing here and Zeno best feat is erasing 6 universes and if he want he can even erase entire DBS Multiverse which contains 18 universes, However this isn't even remotely close to Scarlet king and Unicron * Scarlet king S...
What we need is for someone to make a compilation of anime characters talking at x200 speed to really give us that immersion.
Imagine... Naruto, but everyone talks at the same speed they're fighting.
Oh yeah, that fully reminds me of that bullshit of Gaara being able to do a substitution jutsu during the interim Lee is kicking him for the Primary Lotus(And thus in midair) and Guy closed his eyes to pray and yet fucking NO ONE noticed but Kakashi... somehow.
Like fucking how?
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Gaara was just that good supposedly, ignore the other Jonin and shit who should have noticedOh yeah, that fully reminds me of that bullshit of Gaara being able to do a substitution jutsu during the interim Lee is kicking him for the Primary Lotus(And thus in midair) and Guy closed his eyes to pray and yet fucking NO ONE noticed but Kakashi... somehow.
Like fucking how?
. Kishi will be damned before he let's Lee take any sort of W. In hindsight I like to think that Kakashi and Lee's shared bond of having a trash win-loss ratio allowed Kakashi to see incoming L's. Myralice
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Between this and the rumbling vs Tamriel, the phrase Eren eats shit is the perfect description of what the next two weeks will be like.
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Most Powerful MCU character Eren Jaeger can defeat?
Eren Jaeger is dropped into an abandoned New York, and must run a gauntlet of MCU characters. All combatants are in-character, and will fight to the death against each other. Only feats from the films are allowed for the Avengers side, and Eren has the anime and manga to draw on. MCU characters...
forums.spacebattles.com Oh shit! Here comes round two of Unicron punting the football, with an added spice of overrated spaceman to go with it.
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Who will win in a death battle, Unicron (Transformers), Alien X (Ben 10 omniverse), or Zeno (Dragon Ball Super)?
Answer (1 of 3): Unicorn is unbound by CONCEPTS of Space and Time, and makes these concepts. Unicron ate Multi-Eternity, and survived the recreation of Multi-Eternity. Multi-Eternity because at that time Marvel owned Transformers. Alien x are celestial sapiens who exist outside of creation and ...
Dark Schneider [Bastard!!!] Replaces Touma [Toaru]
A truly worthy opponent. Dark Schneider is teleported to the ToAru verse by a ROB, To get back home has to replace Touma Kamijou in each of his fights and win, How does he do? He starts minutes before Touma meets Index and for all intents and purpose everyone thinks he is Touma and evidently...
forums.spacebattles.com Dark Schneider [Bastard!!!] Replaces Touma [Toaru]
A truly worthy opponent. Dark Schneider is teleported to the ToAru verse by a ROB, To get back home has to replace Touma Kamijou in each of his fights and win, How does he do? He starts minutes before Touma meets Index and for all intents and purpose everyone thinks he is Touma and evidently...
It truly is amazing they have no goddamned idea of how Dark Schneider works.
In order to even get at him, you have to get past his many... MANY Dispel Bounds as otherwise, they have some level of Anti-something against various BS hax abilities so you have to go by them at physical force.
"Well then, all I can do is just launch a massive attack and take them all out in one go then!" NOPE! Due to how Dispel Bound works, you EXPLICITLY must destroy them ONE AT A TIME, No Overkill will ever allow you to bypass each barrier. Oh yeah, they also regenerate almost as fast as you can destroy them, requiring FTL levels of quickness to easily destroy them all before you end up in a stalemate.
And finally... FINALLY you get to his "Eternal Atoms" and you cannot destroy them just physically, not just mentally, not just spiritually, you must destroy them in all 3 spaces... AT ONCE!
There's a reason why the Bastard!!! series was synonymous with pure bullshit and still is today considering someone in that verse killed DS(temporarily) by being able to do all of that... and no one in the To Aru universe is doing that considering how weak they are durability wise and how extremely limited they are in scope and how their abilities work.
EDIT: Taking this from the TvTropes page:
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Tengen (KNY) vs Jugo (Boruto)
Having already used Giyu I’d figure a more capable Demon Slayer should face Jugo. With his newer feats from the anime adaptation Tengen looks more impressive feat wise. Tengen (KNY) Tengen has feats from the KNY anime adaptation and manga. VS Jugo (Boruto) Jugo has feats from the...
forums.spacebattles.com Fatal Entertainment | Jiraiya VS Upper Moon 6
To continue the Tegen VS Upper Moon 6 hype on the site,I bring you all a match i made a while back. 《The Legendary Sannin Jiraiya》 https://imgur.com/sVfa3FR 《Synopsis》 On a dark yet vibrant night, Jiraiya is out taking a stroll "researching" for his next novel. After loosing a ludicrous...
forums.spacebattles.com Okay this was ridiculous at first with Demon Slayer vs. Fate but now this is beginning to be seriously pathetic in doing this shit with Naruto vs. Demon Slayer.
Like they downplay the shit out of UBW and HF despite UFOTable working on the same damn series as Demon Slayer... but they wank it to this extent? Especially when the feats they love using are pretty damn blah, all things considered?
Ey yo @OtherGalaxy, Quora be up to those mismatches again.
Unicron (Transformers) and Scarlet King (SCP) vs Zeno (Dragon Ball Super) and Doraemon (Doraemon series), who will win a team fight?
Answer (1 of 5): Incredible Mismatch, especially what the hell Doraemon is doing here and Zeno best feat is erasing 6 universes and if he want he can even erase entire DBS Multiverse which contains 18 universes, However this isn't even remotely close to Scarlet king and Unicron * Scarlet king S...
bro I swear Unicron has to be the most misunderstood mainstream cosmic character ever. People really know fuck all about transformers featsOh shit! Here comes round two of Unicron punting the football, with an added spice of overrated spaceman to go with it.
Who will win in a death battle, Unicron (Transformers), Alien X (Ben 10 omniverse), or Zeno (Dragon Ball Super)?
Answer (1 of 3): Unicorn is unbound by CONCEPTS of Space and Time, and makes these concepts. Unicron ate Multi-Eternity, and survived the recreation of Multi-Eternity. Multi-Eternity because at that time Marvel owned Transformers. Alien x are celestial sapiens who exist outside of creation and ...
Raiden runs a RWBY Gauntlet
It feels very random to follow a two Maiden scenario with another two Maiden scenario. The most reasonable cause for multiple scenarios is to present escalating threats to see just how far a character can go. But with this there's no obvious reason why Winter and Raven would present a greater...
forums.spacebattles.com "Muh Marrow can stop Raiden with his Semblance"
Raiden fucking punks his ass before he moves a single muscle. And considering how dumb he is in canon, he won't even use it until he's long dead.
Raiden runs a RWBY Gauntlet
It's not the blade. Aura's a forcefield not a material. It should hold up against the blade. Problem is the strength and speed behind the blade. He still has metal bolts and sword which should have been something to work with. It feels more like character induced stupidy then an actual feat...
forums.spacebattles.com This is so wrong that it hurts and I shouldn't even have to say why that is...
EDIT: If someone tries to be smart, I know he said "The Problem is the Strength and Speed behind it", the problem is that it's nonsense when anything CAN harm Aura even if it's in a resting shape as long as it's sharp. That's why characters never try and tank shit to the face.
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https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...-x-vs-dissidia-sephiroth-vs-arceus-v-2228284/
I really wish Bob had posted this one to fanzverse, lmao
I really wish Bob had posted this one to fanzverse, lmao
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/unicron-vs-justice-league-2094567/
this is weird because aside from the incredibly goofy matchup there's one poster who mangled his explanation with all kinds of jargon like 'quantaverse' and other shit
there is so much shit here that doesn't make sense
I'm not gonna go through it all because it's long but just the stuff that's actually relevant and blatantly wrong
Also IDW has never concretely talked about cosmic Unicron being involved. Some writers like James Roberts even deliberately wanted it ambiguous whether Unicron and Primus were real in the setting. And when IDW did tackle Unicron and Primus, both were in completely different ways than had been done before (especially Primus, lmao) and was post-shroud meaning not connected to the gestalt god-consciousness.
This is just....straight up not true.
A single cluster contains universal streams, which constantly multiply into infinite new ones. Basically each cluster is a megaverse. Alternity is powerful but their feats are even debatably Multiversal+. The only way you get megaversal or higher from them is from the statement that they affected every world in Transformers (world is used to mean universe in Alternity) but it's explicitly stated this took them around a billion years or so, so they wouldn't fully scale to affecting every universe at once. (and getting into infinities with a finite timeframe is just a headache anyways). D-Void is a sention universe lmfao. Definitely does not fucking scale as every other chapter with him completely ignored Heart of Darkness saying D-Void was under every universe.
The Unicron singularity that threatened the multiverse has nothing to do with the black hole in IDW that he mentions. IDW in general has next to nothing to do with the greater cosmos as far as transformers canon goes, especially as the latter half of it was published post-Shroud.
The 13 are>Alternity though but again he doesn't really cite why that would be (Vector Prime having stopped clusters from being destroyed, Prima being able to destroy the entire TF multiverse etc)
The black hole this version of Unicron ate was explicitly only connected to every star in the milky way. IDW Unicron is a galaxy level threat at best, and only over time. He isn't even part of the gestalt mega consciousness thing either.
Also Omega Supreme wasn't even in Unicron. He died after being braindead for like 5 years and linking up with Bumblebee.
And not even how the Regenesis Ores work
He's right that Unicron is way above multiversal but for completely the wrong reasons, there's barely any evidence Unicron can affect what transformers actually calls the "omniverse". He's low level omniversal by OBD standards because every universe in TF spawns infinite new ones, and there's 16 clusters of these multiverse-universes. You could maybe stretch it further but I cap it there for simplicity's sake. I don't get how the people supposedly defending TF have such a piss poor understanding of any of its stories.
this is weird because aside from the incredibly goofy matchup there's one poster who mangled his explanation with all kinds of jargon like 'quantaverse' and other shit
there is so much shit here that doesn't make sense
I'm not gonna go through it all because it's long but just the stuff that's actually relevant and blatantly wrong
There's actually very little to suggest Unicron's reach extends beyond the main transformers cosmology, and the things that do suggest it aren't really mentioned here. Unicron in Marvel is probably multiversal anyways since that's where transformers' concept of branch universes actually originates, but him destroying the Old Realms meaning=all of old Marvel is vague as fuck at BEST and blatantly contradicted by everything else Marvel has ever published at worst. You can't scale Unicron very well to Marvel basically (but you don't need to since his TF feats are more than enough to solo most series). The 22% of reality quote was specifically referring to Transformers realities anyways, and it was known realities he'd eaten.
Also IDW has never concretely talked about cosmic Unicron being involved. Some writers like James Roberts even deliberately wanted it ambiguous whether Unicron and Primus were real in the setting. And when IDW did tackle Unicron and Primus, both were in completely different ways than had been done before (especially Primus, lmao) and was post-shroud meaning not connected to the gestalt god-consciousness.
The 'omniverse in chaos' quote is from a story pitch that never got published, so it's one of the few times in TF that something actually isn't canon. Even if it was, this was years before AVP was a thing and it's way too vague to say it means all of fiction which, AVP never actually confirms that's what the omniverse is. It's just realities outside the main transformers cosmos and dwarfs it utterly. There are some weird feats that indicate Primus and Unicron can affect it, but the evidence is VERY thin.
This is just....straight up not true.
A single cluster contains universal streams, which constantly multiply into infinite new ones. Basically each cluster is a megaverse. Alternity is powerful but their feats are even debatably Multiversal+. The only way you get megaversal or higher from them is from the statement that they affected every world in Transformers (world is used to mean universe in Alternity) but it's explicitly stated this took them around a billion years or so, so they wouldn't fully scale to affecting every universe at once. (and getting into infinities with a finite timeframe is just a headache anyways). D-Void is a sention universe lmfao. Definitely does not fucking scale as every other chapter with him completely ignored Heart of Darkness saying D-Void was under every universe.
Literal hyperbole and vague statements from a guidebook that while canon, don't confirm anything the way this guy is stretching it (especially since half these statements are about his god damn Bayformers incarnation, who is much weaker than his true self)
The Unicron singularity that threatened the multiverse has nothing to do with the black hole in IDW that he mentions. IDW in general has next to nothing to do with the greater cosmos as far as transformers canon goes, especially as the latter half of it was published post-Shroud.
Hytherions eat universes, not dimensions. They are higher dimensional though, but I have yet to find any concrete evidence that Transformers has infinite higher dimensions. There are a couple passages from FunPub that suggest this, however TF uses dimensions and universes interchangeably so often that it's difficult to really judge these quotes. I have yet to come to a real conclusion on them myself.
The 13 are>Alternity though but again he doesn't really cite why that would be (Vector Prime having stopped clusters from being destroyed, Prima being able to destroy the entire TF multiverse etc)
This is COMPLETE HORSE SHIT LMAO
The black hole this version of Unicron ate was explicitly only connected to every star in the milky way. IDW Unicron is a galaxy level threat at best, and only over time. He isn't even part of the gestalt mega consciousness thing either.
Also Omega Supreme wasn't even in Unicron. He died after being braindead for like 5 years and linking up with Bumblebee.
This is Quora tier
And not even how the Regenesis Ores work
I have no fucking clue how TF Cosmology really relates to DC's but I know it is not whatever this dude is saying. Optimus' suicide against Unicron in IDW had absolutely nothing to do with God-Unicron though, I have no clue how anyone could have read that comic and gotten that out of it.
He's right that Unicron is way above multiversal but for completely the wrong reasons, there's barely any evidence Unicron can affect what transformers actually calls the "omniverse". He's low level omniversal by OBD standards because every universe in TF spawns infinite new ones, and there's 16 clusters of these multiverse-universes. You could maybe stretch it further but I cap it there for simplicity's sake. I don't get how the people supposedly defending TF have such a piss poor understanding of any of its stories.
Tengen (KNY) vs Jugo (Boruto)
Sure, but even as he says it can go through rock it's merely on par to BoS bigass boulder-slicing Tanjiro. Who had a bunch of training and got more powerful and was still far beneath a guy like Tengen. Asuma knives are below Hashira. Hell they're below Tanjiro and the other mooks around this...
forums.spacebattles.com Tanjiro Kamado(Demon Slayer) Vs Wolf(Sekiro)
-Battle takes place at an empty field -Both have all their equipment -Feats from all sources are allowed for both -Both are Bloodlusted Who will win?
forums.spacebattles.com .07 tons of tnt? all this time the feat SB was wanking was weaker than a fodder JJBA vampire punch?
https://www.fanverse.org/threads/grimmjow-halibel.1251740/
Yep, because Harribel would TOTALLY be THREE ranks higher than Grimmjow if she would lose a fight to him, or was inferior to him in any real way.
It's called basic fucking powerscaling jackass. We are explicitly told in the story that Harribel is superior to Grimmjow and BY A LOT at that given the performance of other Espada (namely Nnoitra and R1 Ulquiorra) also canonically weaker than Harribel. Therefore her superiority extends to anyone who can put up a good fight against her, full stop!
Even if she didn't have better feats than Grimmjow, which she blatantly does given she can fend off Masked Shikai LIsa (who was styling on a Hollowfied Bankai Ichigo in fucking BASE form with NO MASK for TEN MINUTES), she would still scale to anything Grimmjow does regardless. Especially given neither of them is specialized for any stat in particular.
And yes, that means Hitsugaya would also beat the fuck out of Grimmjow given he's able to hold his own with a far stronger Espada, and even outright overpower her when he decided to use his strongest attack (and it was heavily weakened at the time too).
Yep, because Harribel would TOTALLY be THREE ranks higher than Grimmjow if she would lose a fight to him, or was inferior to him in any real way.
It's called basic fucking powerscaling jackass. We are explicitly told in the story that Harribel is superior to Grimmjow and BY A LOT at that given the performance of other Espada (namely Nnoitra and R1 Ulquiorra) also canonically weaker than Harribel. Therefore her superiority extends to anyone who can put up a good fight against her, full stop!
Even if she didn't have better feats than Grimmjow, which she blatantly does given she can fend off Masked Shikai LIsa (who was styling on a Hollowfied Bankai Ichigo in fucking BASE form with NO MASK for TEN MINUTES), she would still scale to anything Grimmjow does regardless. Especially given neither of them is specialized for any stat in particular.
And yes, that means Hitsugaya would also beat the fuck out of Grimmjow given he's able to hold his own with a far stronger Espada, and even outright overpower her when he decided to use his strongest attack (and it was heavily weakened at the time too).
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