yeah I'm gonna be real
Othinus can't do much to them
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Othinus can't do much to them
I get the feeling you might be underestimating the Aeons, they're actually multiversal at this point iirc
Though I don't blame you for not knowing that given the fucking labryinthian atrocity that is HSR lore
Though iirc the reasoning that would make then multiversal would also apply to phases so Othinus going "lmao pokey stick" and breaking like billions of them would still let her put the whammy on them
Agreed. It's one of the funniest reasons that people are now saying it's a problem for the MCU now... when it's been a problem since the MCU has first been established. Like you can look at Ang Lee's Hulk or The Incredible Hulk and legit see shit that wouldn't even be remotely equal till Thanos came in during Infinity War which is fucking ridiculous.
Meanwhile, you have the DCAU heroes still coming off as absolute monsters throughout the entire movie and change(The Flash's speed puts to shit anyone in MCU even before the Snyder Cut, Superman coming off utterly ludicrous in MoS and his fight with Batman in BvS, Wonder Woman in basically anything she does and even Cyborg comes off strong as shit in the only movie he's in) which shows this is definitely director issues.
This turned into enough of a cluster fuck on the actual page that I feel it's worth addressing here
Unless we directly transplant Ritsuka into Shirou's place including a bunch of character specific choices (like why he saw the first fight at all) to get him killed by Cu, then he puts his foot up the ass of everyone else involved once he's summoned a Servant.
Even limiting him to specifically the Saber class gives him access to a bunch of "fuck you i win" Servants, and he can still summon Shadow Servants without Vhaldea's support.
Hell if this is LB Ritsuka then he doesn't even need to actually summon a real Servant, he just dogwalks the entire war himself. Guy is explicitly an equal to Wodime in combat at that point.
The only way Ritsuka is in danger is if we take away his abilities and equipment without giving him Shirou's as a replacement, and then make him do a bunch of stuff only Shirou would do so he dies on night 1.
Pretty much as that was what I was also going for if you directly transplanted Ritsuka into Fate/Stay Night rather than they are placed there. If Ritsuka is just placed there as a Master? Yeah, s/he's whipping ass and taking names, straight up. Servants would be chomping at the bit to serve them and that still goes for them using Shadow Servants. Everyone would get dogwalked meanwhile Shirou would basically get killed by Shadow EMIYA or get himself killed saving Mash due to Survivor's Guilt.
Othinus doesn't actually have any feats of interacting with the type of beings Aeons seem to be so uh
nor does she actually resist much of.. anything, for that matter
I get the feeling you might be underestimating the Aeons, they're actually multiversal at this point iirc
Though I don't blame you for not knowing that given the fucking labryinthian atrocity that is HSR lore
Othinus doesn't actually have any feats of interacting with the type of beings Aeons seem to be so uh
nor does she actually resist much of.. anything, for that matter
Eh, fair enough. The Aeons are almost literally walking hax machines
They hit universal back in I think Swarm Disaster lore, but some shit that came out with Unknowable Domain (and also just Penacony in general) gave them some parallel universe/dimension bullshit that scales basically as high into multiversal as you want it to.
It has no effect on the main story at this point because Stellaron-kun is still a tiny baby on the cosmic scale and almost dies from briefly interacting with simulated versions of the Aeons
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He just rips out touma's powers and then Tazzy gives him super cancer so his quality matches his shows
He just rips out touma's powers and then Tazzy gives him super cancer so his quality matches his shows
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Whut?
Othinus only has anti-feats against affecting the type of abstract beings Aeons are (she failed to do anything about The Will of the Misaka Network, for one) and Othinus doesn't resist phase manipulation/reality warping (there's no reason to believe she can)
not to mention all the other things Aeons can do
what I said was kind of self-explanatory
Alice versus the Aeons, however, would be much more fair
Only reason she didn’t affect Will was an oversight on her part of not factoring people that weren’t living nor dead. It wasn’t that she couldn’t affect her.
Name a better pair than Paxton and wanking Fraudscendents even when it means having to downplay and lie about everything else
Name a better pair than Paxton and wanking Fraudscendents even when it means having to downplay and lie about everything else
funny you say this when I'm talking about inarguably the strongest Transcendent (I think every other Transcendent would in fact die to Aeons) with multiple quotes from the narration putting her above Magic Gods/magic as a concept, let alone Othinus
but yes, I'm the one who downplays and lies
shut the fuck up man, you think Othinus destroyed phases the narration explicitly says Magic Gods can't reach
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hostile asshole can't make a point without trying to insult someone (you literally just did this a couple days ago in the Welt vs Ollerus vs Dan Haewi thread)
I also just checked NT9. It wasn't an oversight, Othinus just flat out doesn't have the type of control to affect a being like Will.
"Othinus only has software to handle those two cases"
"She can't manipulate me"
Othinus only indirectly affects her (it? them?) by altering the alive/dead Misaka clones.
I also just checked NT9. It wasn't an oversight, Othinus just flat out doesn't have the type of control to affect a being like Will.
"Othinus only has software to handle those two cases"
"She can't manipulate me"
Othinus only indirectly affects her (it? them?) by altering the alive/dead Misaka clones.
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Ladies, Ladies, you are both defending a shit sandwich of a plot device that is known as the Magic Gods and the Aeons, just kiss and makeup already.
God, when someone can't accept the fact that the "Almighty Shirou" can't be a better Ritsuka than Ritsuka and literally make up retarded reasons why they can do so by using shit that doesn't even make sense even without context in F/SN, let alone the Visual Novel...
I know it's factual that Fate/Stay Night and Tsukihime fans despise Fate/Grand Order with every fiber of their being... but this is just pathetic(Side Note, still amazes me that they NEVER throw even 1/4th of this shade towards Hakuno Kishinami and it still makes me laugh).
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I don't know why but Shirou has always been my least favourite Nasu protagonist.
I get the feeling you might be underestimating the Aeons, they're actually multiversal at this point iirc
Though I don't blame you for not knowing that given the fucking labryinthian atrocity that is HSR lore
No you misunderstand my annoyance. Its not about othinus
its about them putting this gaggle of niggas against 1 person and then going "okay who wins"
its like brother stop making 1 v many fights where one side has multiple people who can do stuff the other side can do + more
At least when it came to fucking KR Saber it didnt matter how many of them niggas pulled up. them niggas are getting hard wiped