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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

Other thing is Blood Sign is one of Kamachi's worst works :obamalaugh , like the characters are the most generic shit ever and the MC is Kirito number 2234322545 , Touma and friends are way more enjoyable.
I never saw him as Kirito.

He’s a more jaded take of Touma. And he isn’t an overpowered LN protagonist like your actual Kirito clones, just incredibly dirty in a fight, either tossing aside the series magic system to take advantage of mages that can’t fight any other way or finding creative ways to turn things in his favor when he is forced to fight in a summon battle.
 
Like, in most other works, Kyousuke would probably be a Marty Stu between his talents in just about any field and ability to adapt and deal with almost any situation.

But given his own story is about him, a normal human, trying to defeat the White Queen for good, it offsets all the above completely.

Most volumes end at best, with Kyousuke gaining some small, ultimately meaningless, victory over her or more often than not, the White Queen either exceeding his expectations or outplaying him, making whatever his efforts to beat her in that volume all for nothing.
 
Fiamma is in a weird place of being above Multi-solar system beings (Angels) but being completely irrelevant to anything stronger than that.
He has a really short battle with Ollerus and Othinus (both nerfed or not trying at all) that some Toaru stans uses to wank Fiamma at higher levels.

The issue I have with how Astaro is trying to use Fiamma in this situation with ORT and his Right Hand is also a NLF...
A reminder that 2 "Angelic" based shit in the Nasuverse is on such a level that the Foreign God seen Daybit as an equal and he can match up to a Beast in an equal fight and the other is comparable to Beast Tiamat... and ORT is still above the both of them by leaps and bounds... without it's heart(And worst off if we go with how the Official Translation stated, that ORT isn't even PHH ORT whose even stronger than that one).

And ORT itself is Multi-Galaxy and can easily trudge to Universal just like Arcueid/Archetype: Earth if we wanted to push them that way.
 
The issue I have with how Astaro is trying to use Fiamma in this situation with ORT and his Right Hand is also a NLF...
A reminder that 2 "Angelic" based shit in the Nasuverse is on such a level that the Foreign God seen Daybit as an equal and he can match up to a Beast in an equal fight and the other is comparable to Beast Tiamat... and ORT is still above the both of them by leaps and bounds... without it's heart(And worst off if we go with how the Official Translation stated, that ORT isn't even PHH ORT whose even stronger than that one).

And ORT itself is Multi-Galaxy and can easily trudge to Universal just like Arcueid/Archetype: Earth if we wanted to push them that way.
ORT is fine to argue.

It’s the Sefar arguments that’s total garbo I was calling out in that post. Your going by the pic of ORT and not the post itself talking about the much weaker Sefar
 
And what NLF am I arguing with Fiamma? I’m going by very clear things he scales to in order to gauge his power.

@Darth Zion @Hiryuu Do either of you have that quote of Fiamma being able to deal with Gabriel himself if he ever needed to?
 
Fiamma is in a weird place of being above Multi-solar system beings (Angels) but being completely irrelevant to anything stronger than that.
He has a really short battle with Ollerus and Othinus (both nerfed or not trying at all) that some Toaru stans uses to wank Fiamma at higher levels.
(their weakened manifestations, to be specific)

although according to the narration during Mathers vs Aleister, even weakened Archangels should be able to shatter the world like glass
All of a sudden, there were four of those winged higher beings.
Each of them carried enough firepower to obliterate this unclean world.
The pressure from Gabriel alone had caused the entire world to audibly strain to the breaking point when driven down from heaven by Angel Fall.

(NT21, page 241)

regardless some people think he's actually as strong as Michael if not stronger :tupac
 
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Fiamma scales to Gabriel who can rearrange every star in the sky during WWIII and did the same with the Sun and every planet and moon in the Solar System in Angel Fall
I did a rough analysis of the feat once-
Assuming that we are talking about a gravitationally bound system between our current location with respect to the Sun and a distant star. A quick google search reveals that the furthest night star we can see with the naked eye is a little over 4000 light-years away in the constellation Cassiopeia, and has a weight of about 500 solar masses.

The maximum distance we can see is more or less 30 billion light-years. The energy needed to yeet this star to the maximum distance visible to us can see so can be found quite easily through the formula of gravitational potential energy.
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The negative sign here indicates that the potential energy is binding in nature. Applying this with respect to the system of our solar system and the star in question. We can find the potential difference between the point where the star stops being visible to us to its current position relative to the Earth. That difference is equal to the total work needed to be done to drag that star from its current location to the nearest point where Gabriel threw it, or in other words the energy needed to do this feat.

The mass of the star= 9.9455 x 10^33 kilograms
The mass of Solar system= 1.9891 × 10^30 kilograms
The distances, r1 and r2 respectively= 3.784 × 10^18 meteres and 2.838 x 10^27 meteres
Constant G=6.67 x 10^-11

Thus the energy needed to move the single further star we can see outside our visual range, now this is as accurate as I can get which is by 15 decimal points- 1.76268475440451 x 10^39 Joules

That is merely the energy needed to move the star which according to google is the furthest one we can see in the night sky and gravity is a force that is inversely proportional to the square of the distance. Meaning, as we get further the force needed decreases exponentially.

So, the stars which are closer to us would require literally trillions to septillions times more energy needed to perform the same feat. Also, the gravity of the sun is obviously not the only force that's keeping these stars in their place. There are planets, stars, and galaxies whose gravity also binds these stars. Then there's the fact that these stars have varying masses. Then there's the fact that Fiamma can manipulate every star in the universe, not just the measly amount we see.

There are 400 billion stars in our night sky

Assuming the same conditions, to yeet them all outside our visible range we need- 7.05073901762 x 10^52 joules of energy.

That's about galaxy level and this is an exponential lowball, the actual energy should be order of magnitudes higher considering the inverse square law and the distances involved..
@Darth Zion @Hiryuu Do either of you have that quote of Fiamma being able to deal with Gabriel himself if he ever needed to?
No, but I have the quote where he says he can recreate any Christian Miracle-
In fact, the great swirl of light Fiamma had fired had split in two right in front of the boy and scattered to either side of him. Yet that attack had held such power that it could blow away the world or recreate any of the legends in Christianity.
 
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