Clearly Defining Certain Terms

[Xhominid The Apex]

Yeah, but they were just destroying the celestial bodies and shit, no? No erasing space itself.

With this revision being set that would be only universe level from now on in any case, as destroying universe + universe sized dimension isn't going to be Universe+ anymore. Isn't the afterlife just part of Universe 7 anyway?

Considering we later get DBS destroying the entirety of Hyperbolic Time Chamber, I think that renders it moot anyway and considering Super Buu and SSJ3 Gotenks being able to tear a hole through dimensions which would include space with their screams, pretty sure BoG would include them destroying space.

 

[Cryso Agori]

Considering we later get DBS destroying the entirety of Hyperbolic Time Chamber, I think that renders it moot anyway and considering Super Buu and SSJ3 Gotenks being able to tear a hole through dimensions which would include space with their screams, pretty sure BoG would include them destroying space.

Doesn't that contradict the destroying 'dimensions part of the universe is universal' thing?

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Doesn't that contradict the destroying 'dimensions part of the universe is universal' thing?

No because the Hyperbolic Time Chamber is literally in it's own World separate from the Z-Universe which was the difference.
@Uoruk Get your ass over here since they are using your argument for this crap.

 

[Rev97]

Destroying the Hyperbolic Time Chamber isn’t a universal feat anyway

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

No one said it was, I said dimensional considering how if you destroyed the damned door, you are stuck there forever(or stayed in too long for the same deal)...

And why are you still here? I thought you left "months ago" but you keep coming back like a cockroach.

 

[Uoruk]

No because the Hyperbolic Time Chamber is literally in it's own World separate from the Z-Universe which was the difference.
@Uoruk Get your ass over here since they are using your argument for this crap.

Eh, thats just them not watching DBS since the clash was going to destroy the universe and not just the planets ect

The same reason they had to stop Champa and Beerus from fighting each other

Don't know what the dimensional shit is about

 

[Rev97]

No one said it was, I said dimensional considering how if you destroyed the damned door, you are stuck there forever(or stayed in too long for the same deal)...

And why are you still here? I thought you left "months ago" but you keep coming back like a cockroach.

I’ll post when ever I like. Still feeling asshurt about me, eunuch?

I don’t even need to try to get you triggered at this point.

 

[Masterblack06]

Yeah, I can relate. Work's killing me, too.

Then just the two most important points:
1. If we use the term multiverse we should define what a multiverse is in our terms. How do we determine if a group of universes is one or two multiverses?

I mean i thought it was obvious that if you have more than 1 universe then you have a multiverse

2. The "Must have more than one statement saying that what was destroyed is universe sized"-thing is IMO way too restrictive.
E.g. by that requirement, the following isn't a feat of universe destruction, despite it being as obviously that as it gets:

It doesn't have to be a statement just something other than 1 statement. For example, pokemon has statements but also on-screen evidence of it.

 

[Solar Sailor]

Doesn't that contradict the destroying 'dimensions part of the universe is universal' thing?

Dimensions are tricky because they can be any size the author wants to use. There isn’t a set amount of energy or mass needed to quantify it

Time Chamber is as big as the planet.

 

[Rev97]

Just go by a case by case basis, determining the size of the dimension by either what it’s shown to be as well as the general scale the series itself operates under. OBDs been doing this for years

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Eh, thats just them not watching DBS since the clash was going to destroy the universe and not just the planets ect

The same reason they had to stop Champa and Beerus from fighting each other

Don't know what the dimensional shit is about

This is still your fault since they are using what you stated to try and weaken DBS. Take responsibility for this man, I'm not fighting your battle.

I’ll post when ever I like. Still feeling asshurt about me, eunuch?

I don’t even need to try to get you triggered at this point.

??? Listen "buddy", "pal", I don't give a flying fuck about you outside of the constant times you lurk here even when you act like you are too cool for this forum. I also find it cringe as fuck that you end up bitching to everyone in particular about me and not even bring it up to me as that's just wasting everyone else's time.
I don't give a fuck whether or not you are here, I just find it hilarious you keep up trying to act cool and then immediately fucking whine when you don't get your way, leave and then return like some estranged Ex.

Just go by a case by case basis, determining the size of the dimension by either what it’s shown to be as well as the general scale the series itself operates under. OBDs been doing this for years

And you failed at it considering you somehow missed me saying something so basic as "DBZ characters can already tear holes in dimensions" and how the Hyperbolic Time Chamber works would mean it actually doesn't neighbor the Universe at all considering you wouldn't be able to get back normally if it disappears at all.

 

[Rev97]

Than shut the fuck up and stop talking to me over a post that wasn’t directed to you at all

 

[Nep Nep]

I’ll post when ever I like. Still feeling asshurt about me, eunuch?

I don’t even need to try to get you triggered at this point.

Stop right there criminal scum, you've violated my beer drinking time.

Let's chill out, don't make me get involved further, I'd rather watch shitty old ghost shows and get a buzz~

 

[Uoruk]

This is still your fault since they are using what you stated to try and weaken DBS. Take responsibility for this man, I'm not fighting your battle.

???

lol learn to argue yourself this isn't "my battle" or "responsibility" because I posted facts about how our universe works

the fuck is this damage control nonsense

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

???

lol learn to argue yourself this isn't "my battle" or "responsibility" because I posted facts about how our universe works

the fuck is this damage control nonsense

It's no damage control, you got them into trying to downplay DBS to Galaxy levels. So I'm not going to fight this battle, you are.

Than shut the fuck up and stop talking to me over a post that wasn’t directed to you at all

Sure it wasn't homey, how about you actually leave as no one asked for your opinion and actually stay gone like you said months ago?

 

[Rev97]

It's no damage control, you got them into trying to downplay DBS to Galaxy levels. So I'm not going to fight this battle, you are.



Sure it wasn't homey, how about you actually leave as no one asked for your opinion and actually stay gone like you said months ago?

Really nailing that clingy Estranged ex shit you projected on me. Lmao.

 

[Uoruk]

It's no damage control, you got them into trying to downplay DBS to Galaxy levels. So I'm not going to fight this battle, you are.

They brought up the argument that on screen all they were doing was destroying the planets. Anyone with actual context knows the entire universe was going to go poof. The only way they could downplay DBS to galaxy levels is if you yourself don't know enough about DBS to argue against it. Which is your fault not mine. Do your own research and make your own arguments don't turn into Rev hiding behind TGB Irri and OMG.

 

[Solar Sailor]

Bruh

on panel the Time Chamber was as big as a planet

Goku + Beerus threatened to destroy the DBuniverse, not just everything in it

and then we see Goku destroy Hit’s Time Dimension and Vegeta destroy the Time Chamber Dimension

and then Toppo reality warped a piece of the void universe in the ToP with Hakai

This shouldn’t be an issue for people that know how to debate; discriminating which should go in which area is very easy

People like Vegeta and Goku have already destroyed a dimension, threatened to destroy their own Universe, and also fought and exceeded someone who can reality warp that dimension to their whim

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

They brought up the argument that on screen all they were doing was destroying the planets. Anyone with actual context knows the entire universe was going to go poof. The only way they could downplay DBS to galaxy levels is if you yourself don't know enough about DBS to argue against it. Which is your fault not mine. Do your own research and make your own arguments don't turn into Rev hiding behind TGB Irri and OMG.

Dude, you are the one who made them think that with the fashion of how you described the Real Life Universe in the first place.

Why should I have to stick up for you when yeah, we know that's bullshit but you did start this.

 

[Solar Sailor]

Why should I have to stick up for you when yeah, we know that's bullshit but you did start this.

You don’t have to stick up for anybody If it’s not your argument, Xhom