Hm? But it does? Destroying the universe means you would destroy the space in the universe not just matter. Space and time are connected through relativity. So destroying all the space in the universe, would destroy time as well.
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I'm 1000% certain that's not how that works.
Space and Time are in their own separate dimension than the Universal Laws even in real life. Simply destroying the Universe wouldn't destroy those at all which is the entire point.
Well, I'm not a physicist. But if time and space were separate then how do blackholes work? Their gravity is so intense that they can bend space and time. If time and space were separate then time slowing down near a black hole wouldn't make sense.
Plus Einstein and other physicists theorized that time isn't constant everywhere and is instead is based on relative motion. Which is a model used till this day.
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That's why space-time is a word infact. Because time is relative to the motion of space. If there is no space there is no time.
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Also this is untrue.
Spacetime - Wikipedia
The current scientific models of physics use spacetime which fuses time and space as the third dimension and not separate.
Doesn't make sense.
Big Bang - Wikipedia
The current and most accepted cosmological theory is that the Big Bang caused an expansion of space-time faster than light, which is still expanding even now. Time is relative to space meaning the time of celestial bodies is relative to the expansion of the big bang.
Destroying the universe would mean destroying space-time. Unless you're saying that destroying all the matter in a universe is universal which doesn't make sense, since the universe is probably way bigger than the amount of mass in it.
Well, I'm not a physicist. But if time and space were separate then how do blackholes work? Their gravity is so intense that they can bend space and time. If time and space were separate then time slowing down near a black hole wouldn't make sense.
Plus Einstein and other physicists theorized that time isn't constant everywhere and is instead is based on relative motion. Which is a model used till this day.
Theory of relativity - Wikipedia
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General relativity - Wikipedia
Time in physics - Wikipedia
World line - Wikipedia
You are using the real world sense for fiction which that isn't how that works.
You are also only looking at it from only a few words at that too nor how those meanings work either.
Then we might as well scrap universal as level. Most authors don't go into nitty gritty details on how their universes work or their size, meaning that in VS debates we usually use our universe as a base since that's the few examples we have.
Also most works usually follow the base laws of physics we use i.e gravity, space, time just like so their universes should work a similar way to ours unless there are explicit differences.
This is stuff you can find in highschool textbooks, plus those wiki articles support it.
Theory of relativity - Wikipedia
Theory of relativity - Wikipedia
General relativity - Wikipedia
Time in physics - Wikipedia
This all can be found simply skimming through the articles.
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If you destroy all of space-time then by proxy you will destroy the universe
however destroying just the universe wouldn't destroy space-time
there's a reason why in fiction they make the distinction between destroying the universe and destroying space-time a lot of the time
If you destroy all of space-time then by proxy you will destroy the universe
however destroying just the universe wouldn't destroy space-time
there's a reason why in fiction they make the distinction between destroying the universe and destroying space-time a lot of the time
Then what's being destroyed when you destroy a universe? Matter?
Because destroying the universe would mean destroying the space-time it's comprised of unless you mean that there's space-time outside the universe too. Which just gets into multiversal shenanigans. Because the universe itself is an expanding space created by the big bang with time being relative to the expansion of space.
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and you'd be wrong lol
Yes it would
thats because it's fiction. The universe is space/time. You destroy the universe and there is no longer a concept of space and time.
Fiction having chars that exist outside of space/time might be confusing people but in reality there is no "outside" of the universe. The universe encompasses all of space and time and without it neither concept exists. They are linked
There is also no point in using "omniversal" as a term. Mainly because technically speaking that term is licensed specifically to Marvel's silly writers using that as the ultimate umbrella for their own cosmology. Secondly because megaversal simply sounds better and thirdly and MOST IMPORTANTLY its way less cringe tbh fam ngl.
Okay so while yes space and time are linked together, destroying the universe wouldn't get rid of them depending on how the universe was destroyed. If you destroyed the universe and then I'm able to go back in time then you didn't destroy the concepts of space and time, all you did was destroy the physical universe. for example in ben 10 when the annihilarg went off it deleted everything and alien x had to recreate the entire universe as there was no time to rewind to undo what happened.
But you couldn't. Fiction has primed us to think this way. That's not how it works though. If you destroy the universe there is no more timeline they are inseparable. If the universe goes poof you can not go back to a point in time in it because space and time no longer exist. That universe is gone. The Universe and space/time are one and the same and can't be separated.
Yes, because there's an outside of spacetime in the series. There is no outside of spacetime in reality. The universe isn't expanding in to some empty space outside. Everything that exists exists within the universe including the concepts of space/time. The reason why time travel is considered impossible (for the most part) is because of the law of entropy which is universal states that disorder can't decrease only increase.
Are you trying to argue this about OUR Universe or other fictional Universes altogether?
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