Game Ranked Tower of God Mafia Thread

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Lindltaylor

Paramount
Town:
Prof
Relo
Luka
Jag
RDK
Psychic

Assuming Yoho was TMI’d by Ultra, put him as town too.

Ichigo - serial

Pein - ???

Gad
Gram
 

Lindltaylor

Paramount
It’s really the main way the play makes sense to me. Like, if I’m gonna play in a way that’s borderline suicidal long term and relies on coasting on WIFOM as long as possible (but not forever) I’m more likely to do so if I’ve got a trump card up my sleeve and my team can afford my loss

I know they aren’t me but if I’m not planning to make it to those last few days I want someone clutch there when I’m gone

Only bothered by RDK also thinking so and not fully trusting his agenda 💀
Frankly I always hesitate when it comes to players like Gram simply because I value what they bring to the table which sometimes clouds my judgement.

So I may not even be looking at him from an objective lens.
 

Dr_Professor83

Professional Troll

Town:
Prof
Relo
Luka
Jag
RDK
Psychic

Assuming Yoho was TMI’d by Ultra, put him as town too.

Ichigo - serial

Pein - ???

Gad
Gram
I’m expecting Pein to sooner be serial than Ichigo.

I can see Ichigo just being town. I also think his stance on Ratchet fits town more than serial but I’m not willing to die on the hill

His stubbornness on me is bad but can see it as just super stubborn town bc I get the vibe that’s his personality.

Not complains on him being in the PoE but I’d personally have him in the back and never before Pein for sure
 

Dr_Professor83

Professional Troll
Frankly I always hesitate when it comes to players like Gram simply because I value what they bring to the table which sometimes clouds my judgement.

So I may not even be looking at him from an objective lens.
I do the same thing. It’s what causes me issue with Ratchet and Ultra.

It ain’t bc I like them so much lol. Sure I like them, but I like lots of players. I like Reloaded as much as anyone we play mafia with.

I get hung up on them bc I want to be able to rely on them. (And I feel the same on Gram/Magic)
 

Lindltaylor

Paramount
As it stands, we’ve got 2-3 scum left and a serial. With 12 alive that leaves 7-8 townies.

If we mislynch, then serial has to hit mafia or they lose next day phase.
 

Lindltaylor

Paramount
that leaves 7-8 townies.
8-9, but doesn’t make much of a difference lol.

I do the same thing. It’s what causes me issue with Ratchet and Ultra.

It ain’t bc I like them so much lol. Sure I like them, but I like lots of players. I like Reloaded as much as anyone we play mafia with.

I get hung up on them bc I want to be able to rely on them. (And I feel the same on Gram/Magic)
I’m pretty sure most players feel this way and it amplifies end game lmao.
 

Psychic

Yennefer
Prof’s points to Gram have been reasonable and Gram’s defenses have been WIFOM. Only thing is that WIFOM does have some merit.

And frankly, if Gram’s gone and flips town and after that Prof’s definitely dying soon and probably Luka too. That leaves possible SK Ichigo as the only somewhat thread contributor.

Which is a shitty position to be in for me lol.
Why is Ichigo SK to you?

You seem to do alot of analyzing and it seems like you're helping town from a surface level, but looking deeper, you seem to be going in the opposite direction. i don't like your focus at all/
I know you’ll hard carry 💪
Why is Lind town to you?
I’m gonna speed lynch the day phases with a firm PoE of Gad, Pein and Ichigo lol.
What about Gram?
Town:
Prof
Relo
Luka
Jag
RDK
Psychic

Assuming Yoho was TMI’d by Ultra, put him as town too.

Ichigo - serial

Pein - ???

Gad
Gram
Town :

Prof
Ichigo
RDK
Jag
Relo

Null :

TPein - hard to read
Luka - super clueless but yet somehow aware
Gad - Just being Gad
yoho - who this?

Scum :

Gram - most of his posts seems to be " look away" "piss off" "go in the opposite direction please" "there's nothing to see here"
What are you hiding?

Lind - CWAC
 

Dr_Professor83

Professional Troll
Why is Lind town to you?
1.) he’s a miller and I don’t think there’s a very high chance of him faking it at all

2.) I don’t think he’s CWACing at all and everything from him looks like genuine Lind solving

In fact, he’s the one town read I’d bet this whole game on. Or if someone held a gun to my head irl and made me get one player left alive right as town lol
 

Dr_Professor83

Professional Troll
@Dr_Professor83

Who's doc? Relo?

Why are you two still alive?
Reloaded is healer, not doctor. (Doesn’t stop kills). And there’s only been 1 poison so I don’t see much reason to kill him besides the fact he’s not a power player either.

I’m not dead bc I spent 3 days in Ultra/Ratchet’s pocket and in what world are scum ever killing me before confirmed not scum Magic the first night I’m not?

Ultra flipped scum BG already and Lethal flipped scum bus driver. Town has no claimed protection roles besides me (and maybe T-Peins BP if he’s town)
 

Lindltaylor

Paramount
Shibisu, X-shot Vigilante

Get him out of here
This was when Ratchet counter-claimed Melkor after which:
[Vote lynch Melkor]

Get Magic the fuck outta here Ratchet
The way Ultra reacted to the way Gram reacted:

Hang on, something not right here
I know that they're gonna want to put out different reactions so that it won't be easy linking them together, but Gram's reaction echos a lot of my own in that situatuon.

I find it bizarre that Ultra and I have the positions we had last game re: reloaded only reversed
Throws some shade on Ultra in regards to Reloaded last game or something.

scum probably don't have much protection and thought this was a decent % play
This is what I was thinking
Ultra agrees with Tempest above ^

of the people voting him, who believes hes faking?
Gram asking players if Melkor is faking it.

If they dont have much protection, why is blind faking vig a good idea?
Gram countering Tempest's point which Ultra agreed to. Again, if Ultra and Gram are planning on not being linked, I agree that different reactions are expected.

yeah i dont think this is going to end well
Gram's position on the Melkor wagon.

Based on what? This feels performative
Because theres no satisfactory explanation for what just happened, or for the rush of inactives to suddently pipe up and start expressing themselves
Gram answering Tempest's question.

There is tho and I gave one
Which I pointed out the hole in straight away
More Tempest and Gram ^

Think I may be right on Gad too looking back at some of Melkors posts starts reminding people he's scum reading him towards the end there with no initiative prior
Again, Ultra shading Gad, but not pushing him at all.

Fuck, I guess I have to get out of my Gad tunnel.

because town isn't going to find out about this until we've basically cleared the deck of scum?
No but I mean how are those thoughts compatible - it’s a 26 player game, town is going to have a killing role

Which makes trying to fake it dumb as fuck
Well it’s your line of questioning, not mine!
its about your posts tho

what do you want us to wait for? you said you don't know. okay. why say anything?
More Tempest and Gram ^

Ive no idea what to make of this
@Tempest thoughts now? If he’s scum his composure is ridiculously good lmao
Trying to ask Tempest again in regards to Melkor.

[VOTE LYNCH Lord Melkor]
Have you even read anything
Questioning Cubey ^

For who, and why. You like to be cryptic this game
Well seeing as it looked like we’d flipped Melkor who has claimed vig (and then been apparently counterclaimed) and seeing as the wagon speed was sus as fuck, I’ll let you work it out
Answers Mango above ^

Why "apparently"?

At the time of that post you were well aware.

As for the speed; I agree, a lot of inactives coming out of hiding to vote - but I know at least a handful of them are newbies.

If you had to dissect that wagon under the assumption LM flips town; who looks the worst and why?
Because … don’t actually know what ratchets role is?

I suppose if you want to be super anal about my grammar then yes the fact he was cc’d isn’t in question, it’s whether it’s a legitimate cc, but if that’s the standard you want to set then I will have a field day with your posts, deal?

As for the rest, no
Answers to Mango above, but doesn't tell us who looks the worst out of the Melkor wagon and why. He says "no" to the rest.

This wasn't a question about grammar but rather your choice of words. If you want to attack my grammar so be it, but I don't think you care enough to do so and your words are but an empty threat. Though I'll be happy to be proven wrong.

Now I'll reach a bit and say by this post you've indirectly implied that you find LM's claim to be truthful - as by you say Melkor the claimed vig looked to be flipped - but you don't know if Ratchet's cc was real.

I find this notion to be strange, especially with the timing. Anyone can come in when you did and say "the speed of this lynch is weird", I've done this as town and been proven very wrong. Ekko of all people told me that it doesn't necessarily mean anything.
I don't think you really believe that this is a scum-fuelled wagon, and your very soft and indirect defense of LM is quite telling.
Except you acknowledged I was there for the whole thing, making the rest of your point completely irrelevant. I didn’t ’come in’, I was already in, heck I was voting him prior to the claim.

Your effective pre flipping of Melkor is also noted. If I didn’t think there was a chance melkors claim was real, he’d already be lynched wouldn’t he - brilliant gotcha, bravo.

You want to try again pal? I’m hoping not but I am condemned to useless labour it seems.
He answers Mango's post here saying he did in fact trust Melkor's claim to an extent and that's why didn't vote him. And Gram's vote didn't end up on Melkor either.

But really, I think here that part about Gram saying he's noting Mango's "pre-flipping of Melkor" is weird 'cause I didn't read Mango's post that way and I think Gram had Mango as town out of the whole Ratchet / Mango / Magic debate.
 

Lindltaylor

Paramount
From that entire ISO, fuck, I would have reacted the same way as Gram then, and the only weird thing is Gram's replies to Mango which then became aggressive towards the end which I didn't quote.

Tempest and Mango both viewed Gram's reaction then as being a bit performative.
 

Lindltaylor

Paramount
It's possible that I'm just wrong on Gram. His position isn't far fetched to have come from a place of TMI either if he's great at faking the confusion.
 
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