Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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I have always been in the came of statements needing to be backed up with evidence in verse. Unless I have good reason to do so, I don't generally take statements at face value.

Hence my pressing f to doubt around the whole "Zommari = fastest Espada" thing. Largely because other Espada have blatantly better speed feats than him. Or "Aizen said the Espada are worthless but allows Tousen to fight with him"as a reason to put Tousen above the Espada, despite him lacking really ANY feats to justify that whatsoever.

Or of course there's the whole "Dark Masters defeated the Holy Beasts" thing in Digimon. Though the issue there is more people taking it as a straight up legitimate win when we literally KNOW via the feats of both groups that shenanigans HAVE to have been involved, because the Holy Beasts have better feats and scale much higher and they always have done.
 

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Location: Hueco Mundo. No prep or intel on Quilge shrift or Tenjiro's Shikai

As we all know, most if not all fans here laughed when I matched these two up a while ago.
https://www.fanverse.org/threads/shikai-tenjiro-vs-vollstandig-quilge-ayon-absorbed.1312229/
Yes because even implying this match-up is anything but a casual stomp for Tenjiro is fucking laughable and NOTHING has changed my good man.
After Kubo reinforced my interpretation through klub outside and debunked many fans here, how do you think this fight goes? Has anything changed for you
OH! Kubo said something has me?

And you are no doubt interpreting it the wrong way in order to pretend this is debatable when fucking Haschwalth got one-shotted. Well let's see what he actually said then shall we?
Kubo was asked if the reason Quilge was slowly turning back to his normal self post-Ayon was because Ichigo destroyed his halo and his VS was slowly fading away, to which Kubo confirmed that Ichigo destroying his Halo made his VS collapse.
He also mentioned that among all Quincy, Quilge sits at the top when it comes to the ability to capture and enslave reishi.
So aside from Kubo ONCE AGAIN reinforcing the fact that Quilge is one of the stronger Nazis, exactly how does this help against someone who one-shot fucking Haschwalth? You know the guy who one-shotted a stronger version of Ichigo than the one who was still beating Quilge's ass without really trying.

Helpful hint, the fact that Quilge's Vollstanding was gone and he nerfed doesn't matter because that only happened because Ichigo easily sliced his halo to collapse it in the first place? This AGAIN only serves to reinforce just how far above Quilge Ichigo WAS at the time and therefore how impressive Haschwalth is, that a stronger version wasn't shit to him.

Tenjiro still blitzes and Tenjiro still one-shots.
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my opinions have not changed in the slightest. quilge gets bodied by any SR worth their salt in the 2nd invasion, and most definitely Tenjiro.
And Sables is still fucking delusional.

Like at this point, Kubo has not only highlighted Quilge as having exceptional skill by using RansoTengai, but also straight up stated he's the best at Sklaverei as well AND he trained most of the Nazis AND he was the guy trusted to hold off Ichigo and keep Hueco Mundo under control.

Seriously Sables, the fuck does Kubo have to do, he's done everything but straight up said Quilge if fucking high tier "no Nazi is beating him whose not named Gremmy, Royd or an Elite you dumb fuck Sables"? :heston
Quilge was nerfed the entire time? Ichigo stocks in the mud.
Ichigo was the one who fucking nerfed him you twat so no, they're not.
 

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People gonna be out here pretending Piemon gets to Dragon Ball Super characters and shit like that when, at the very least the anime version doesn't even clear 23rd Budokai.

The problem here is the dude can't even TRY to hide the fact this is a bait thread, he obviously WANTS the argument over Adventure Dark Masters, when he could have avoided it simply by using composite Piemon instead.

At least then, ANY Ultimate is universal MINIMUM by way of Ghost Game, Piemon gets the benefit of just being able to teleport his swords straight into the opponent rather than having them need to move and be avoidable.

He still wouldn't be above the Holy Beasts but at least putting him on the tier of characters Tanakar's gonna try and put him at, would actually make more sense. :maybe
 

Go back to my first comment. It has all the sources. The one right above you even has screenshots of the exact time stamps.

Alright, let's actually go back and read his original comment then with his "proof".

Laputa took several minutes to be destroyed, and was amped by using the energy that sent it flying. Additionally, the dgp lifting it up was more energy than it could emit without significant prep work.

This is genuinely incorrect and it's one of the most hilarious things because if you actually played the game, we literally see the before and after the instant Caladbolg is used:

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Laputa as it is beforehand(and yes, it's stated to be the size of a Country before it was torn out and while it's in midflight which is why it's drop would be "apocalyptic" as Mash states it).

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Laputa the instant Caladbolg is used, you even see the beam piercing the clouds from below the chunk as fuck island and alot of the "recognizable parts" are suddenly just GONE. It's more ridiculous because the Demon God Pillar was also keeping the island together AND afloat at the same time which was why it wasn't instantly destroyed.

For refence Laputa is 7km wide
Laputa - Wikipedia

Someone covered that but no, it's explicitly stated that the Hollow is the size of a country and Scheherazade only named it Laputa in a double enterdere about herself and it being a floating island, it is literally not meant to be the literal Laputa(The fact that multiple cities that are on it are NOT on Laputa should have been extremely apparent).


Using agartha in general is funny because its the second most ass singularity feats wise in the entire game. I'm not joking, a normal arrow fired from a normal person outspeeds multiple servants to knock a wish mcguffin from Colombus hands. This kind of shit happens the entire singularity since the premise is chaldea needs to use armies of normal dudes who were abducted from modern day earth to help them battle.

...Wut? Bro, the fuck are you talking about?! Did you read Agartha wrong, that's literally not how Agartha goes, hell, that wasn't even Columbus' ultimate goal.
None of the Cities used the Males as any sort of army whatsoever, all of them used Males as Breeding Slaves, Sex Slaves or literal Slaves for women to be disposed of, Columbus only used the men to get the right time and take out all 3 Queens and use the entire place as a massive Slave Trafficking Goldmine and he explicitly was gonna lead them to their deaths to get him closer to his goal(Which only really happened because of CHALDEA, not the men he brought along).

"B-B-But the man still sniped the Sacred Treasure out of his hands" he wasn't aware in the slightest of that considering he was dealing with Chaldea fighting him at the same time...

Basically, this entire argument is ass and I feel stupider reading it.

It's funny because as I stated before and someone brought proof, all Kid Fergus did was bring in part of his adult version's Saint Graph which was Caladbolg(Which only had some of his adult self's personality along for the ride):


Otherwise it's still Kid Fergus that did that which, unironically, makes Caladbolg WEAKER than it would be under Adult Fergus... which we know because the Manga version of Agartha had Kid Fergus BECOME Adult Fergus and casually blow up the whole damn island in seconds.

I don't buy the whole idea that later content automatically retcons all former content, but if you do, salem happens after agartha.

I don't see how that defeats any point considering Salem doesn't have humans in it whatsoever, that was the twist at the end of Salem... they was all monsters and undead masquerading as humans...
I do find it funny at the end of the day he ignores Shimousa's existence despite it being key proof that Nasuverse Humans are absolute bullshit to instead try and use shit out of context for both Agartha and Salem to downplay the whole ass setting...

A magical heat flex of his noble phantasm is comparable to the heat flex of Natsu's normal attack, meaning those are comparable, yes. And it isn't a highball. The claim that Gawains mere presence oneshots Melt is a claim that needs evidence.

They are not remotely comparable in the slightest, Natsu drained a lake of an indeterminate size as we only see it from one side entirely. Gawain was melting rocks from hundreds of feet up, rocks that can contain the magical energy and might to use Dendera Light Bulb, a fucking Solar Flare, within itself.
Secondly, Meltryllis herself makes that fucking claim, you dumbass! That's why the fight between her and Gawain ends well before it starts with him recognizing Ritsuka and immediately working with him as a Chaldean Servant. She would have gotten her ass beat unless she was a full strength and it still wouldn't be 100% in her favor.
 

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"Ainz and other high level Overlord characters are on the same level as mid to high tier Servants"

Even the lower interpretations of Servants have them in the island-country level range

My ass they're on the same level :tupac
 

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He's a brick robo-god that relied on using brick planets to seal his brick brother iirc. He needed to defeat his brother by physically moving the fight to a higher universe. They're also terrible at reality warping if at all, they are also weak to physical objects that can seal them that have non-infinite weight so they're finitely physical beings.

lmaoooooo
 

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-Jujutsu Kaisen
-Demon Slayer
Most Adult level Digimon can solo these afaik
-My Hero Academia
I think there was some island level bullshit in the movies that pushes them to high or top Adult tier at least.
-Naruto
-Bleach
These two and One Piece all stop Adventure Piemon once he reaches the High Tiers
How strong is Bastard verse again?
-Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
Their hax probably gets them a fair ways in, not sure how far.
-Sailor Moon
Piemon gets stomped silly.
-Cardcaptor Sakura
Piemon gets stomped.
 

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Because clearly the multiple lines on the panel is to show ki traveling, and not to emphasize Frieza's attack
:really
 
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