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Yes, but later on we get a speed figure for Iskandar's chariot and it's also 400 km/h. I have bad news for you. SB thinks DIO's time stop trumps any time resistance in the Nasuverse because it is a time stop of universal scale.

I've never seen any calcs for either feat so I wouldn't know how fast they are. I didn't call it the best feat in the OG material period, I said that about Gae Bolg alone. As in, we don't have any other feats for the speed of Gae Bolg that I know of. I mean, 100 meters per second is 360 km/h so at 500 km/h it is already possible to perform that feat. I'm not aware of any evidence within the 3 OG Fate works that contradict the speed of Bellerophon. If anything it seems consistent with Iskandar's chariot and Artoria's bike going at 400 km/h. No, the context here in that debate is that we don't have access to better feats like with Tao's one. While it's true those feats are better than Mach 2, I don't know how applicable they would be to the argument of how fast Gae Bolg being thrown would be. I don't see any logic to scaling wildly different attacks to each other. At most you could argue Gae Bolg as a Noble Phantasm should easily outstrip the Mystic Code of a modern magus like...

Why would Shirou be wrong about what he thinks of it tho? What speed feats does Excalibur have? Because you should already know that SB won't take Excalibur's light being as fast as light.

No one is taking anything out of context tho? We are using what Shirou was thinking about Gae Bolg as feats, because that's the best that FSN, FZ and FHA have to offer. If we ignore it that only results in the Fate side getting even less feats so... I don't think you realize that the OP in that thread limited the feats to the three original Fate works.

I'm just here seeing what people have to say about SB's latest tomfoolery.