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  1. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Do you mean Freyja? In that case, I wish to specify that he technically was fighting the Fetus that just so happened to use her mother as biological mecha.
  2. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Tbf cardinals and volume as concepts don't interact well (case and point, a sandcorn and the universe has the same cardinality of points). Given, it's much more likely that he has no idea what he is talking about, than that he is alluding in the vaguest of ways to certain topics of mathematics.
  3. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    He probably talks cardinal mathematics, in which case infinite things can be countable. I know, mathematicians did a weird choice of words there. (Although it makes sense if you really think about it...)
  4. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Mugino fires a special kind of electron beam, which could be any speed. (electrons are matter and as such have no fixed natural velocity) She can at least react to lightning, though.
  5. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    It's from ToAru Kagaku no Railgun SS1. A bunch of magical bombers vaporized a bunch of water, splitting it into oxygen and hydrogen. Misaka used her ability to manipulate the oxygen and hydrogen ions and used the rocket fuel-like mixture to create those wings to fly around. She then used them to fight some, IIRC supersonic, jets mid-air.
  6. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Not debating the point, but just to put the right numbers out here: The speed of explosions decays extremely fast with distance. The shockwave of 50kg of C4 would, for example, travel the 1st meter from the origin in 0.1ms and at that point the shockwave would already have slowed to 3522.83 m/s. (source) In practice explosion dodging feats are often less impressive than a look at the detonation velocity would suggest.
  7. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Reminder that Accels vector shield worked against physics altering bullshit before. The listed powers are really not beyond that in nature, it's just on a larger scope and more degrees of freedom... which doesn't matter as Accel has demonstrated universal scope. Given, some of the power cosmics reality warping powers probably work vectorless, which would work. But, again, Accel ain't fighting a power cosmic, he is fighting Magneto. Magneto can't replicate these effects just because he blocked an attack. Heck, which of those effects did he even block? It's not like resisting an energy beam of that thing equates to resisting every possible effect it has. As it stands you just get that Magneto's shields can resist reality warping, which doesn't equate to offensive capacity in any shape or form. Also not sure what you mean with "gamed the system"? Any quotes to actually support that or are you just making stuff up?
  8. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Individual espers, probably. Platinum Wings, creating entirely new branch of supernatural power for the world, stuff? Debatable. But that's not exactly the point anyway, as we aren't debating Accel vs a power cosmic. Point was that Magneto blocking power cosmic reality warping with his EM field (honestly what bs were the writers on when they accepted that as solution) doesn't exempt his EM stuff from Accels vector shield. His EM fields aren't in themselves reality warping of a power cosmic's nature, after all.
  9. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Accels powers are also on a universal scale, so eh. Don't see how protecting against reality warping powers comes into play here, as defending against them with an EM Shield doesn't mean the shield warps reality. And if we gonna do technicalities Esper powers kinda warp reality, too, given that they make reality work according to an Espers personal reality. And then there's platinum wing bullshit.
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Accelerator has demonstrated his vector shield protecting him from powers directly targeting his internals. Both teleportation fails as does Nephthy's power to drain moisture from inside opponents. So yeah, don't see controlling iron in Accels body work... especially not via an external magnetic field. And Accels power work on a quantum level. I mean, all esper powers do. That's the working principle behind them. That they do change reality on the quantum level, via Schrödinger's Cat and stuff.
  11. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Small Correction: Touma can negate those things. For those, the problem is that the supernatural state is just restored instantly, as the negation effect doesn't reach the source of the phenomenon. But there are other examples like Accel's angel wings.
  12. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    I don't remember that. Unless you mean the scene from the end of NT22 Not sure about the caviar thing being full-power MG level btw.
  13. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Probably not an MP issue (he has MP recovery items if it were that), but a cooldown thing.
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Yeah, that's just weird abuse of reality equivalence ideas. Like, I get it, if you want to have a character that mainly does shit in dreams fight you want them to fight as their dream world self, not as their actual self. But then pretending that that dream world self is universal by them waking up is fucking stupid lol
  15. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    I mean... I could. Then again, I'm a lazy fuck and respect threads exist on other sites already. So if you wanna look at tons of quotes you can.
  16. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    I mean, as said, it's not just transmutation. It's having your laws of nature changed which results in you falling apart to sand, as that's just how your matter behaves with the new laws. But yeah, Ben's probably too fast. Kakine is just Mach 100 or somewhere in the realtivistic area depending on how you scale him.
  17. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Negating energy and transforming someone back into a human is not exactly comparable to what Kakine does. He changes the laws of nature based on which the matter and energy you are made from work. What you wanna look for are feats of resisting the laws of physics being changed, not energy being negated. (See To Aru Majutsu no Index Volume 15 Chapter 5 and To Aru Kagaku no Dark Matter Chapter 4 for reference)
  18. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    It's really depressing. Touhou has such a cool fan community, but when it comes to vs-debates it's mostly just people with the rigour of a flat earther.
  19. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Guess either reading it or not debating it are the best options for you then.
  20. Irradiance

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Ehm, the thread specifies "Saber is given a steady supply of mana by the holy grail, the same amount that she would have gotten from Shirou". So she really isn't more starved. She is exactly as starved. And that is assuming the Heracles fight as such happens to begin with. There's a decent chance for Touma to leave that path earlier. If you want to see quotes of anything I'm always happy to post them.
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