Aleister Crowley vs Dr. Doom

[Xhominid The Apex]

The entire multiverse since the scan mentions all the Phases are involved

...Yeah, I don't believe that in the slightest...
You telling me that even basic bitch Magic can and I quote:

It does not only produce the obvious phenomena right in front of you. It is a dangerous technique that will follow an unexpected path to later cause an unexpected change without the magic user even knowing about it. Aleister Crowley had loathed that and called it sparks and spray.

You telling me a fucking Fire spell can potentially shape and change the entire To Aru "Multiverse"?!
Yeah no, I do not even remotely believe that hogwash.

 

[Astaro]

So they are worse at resisting trickery and the like therefore Doom is going to fall for the trick. Astaro this isnt making sense.

It’s not a trick. If someone flips you the bird, you picture in your head they just flipped you off.

It’s basic information processing of the mind Crowley is weaponizing

 

[Astaro]

...Yeah, I don't believe that in the slightest...
You telling me that even basic bitch Magic can and I quote:



You telling me a fucking Fire spell can potentially shape and change the entire To Aru "Multiverse"?!
Yeah no, I do not even remotely believe that hogwash.

Because causality is being rewritten to conjure those flames into reality

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Because causality is being rewritten to conjure those flames into reality

Then that means To Aru's Causality is weak as fuck and is being held on by pins and staples.

 

[Astaro]

Then that means To Aru's Causality is weak as fuck and is being held on by pins and staples.

Or that’s just how magic in this series works. Hence why it can range up to becoming a god that can do anything they want

 

[Masterblack06]

It’s not a trick. If someone flips you the bird, you picture in your head they just flipped you off.

But he has to trick the other person into believing that hes somehow mimicking a big bang Astaro. There is not shape or form or anything you can sit here and describe to me that would make anyone outside of To Aru even begin to go "Ah yes Big Bang"

Unironically your actually just arguing "it just works" with little to no feats actually backing this claim up.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Or that’s just how magic in this series works. Hence why it can range up to becoming a god that can do anything they want

It legit feels like the opposite way for me to be 100% with you. It feels like the Magic System in To Aru makes zero sense and is honestly on par with Overlord's entire World being based on Magic than physics.

 

[Blade]

You telling me a Fire spell can potentially shape and change the entire To Aru "Multiverse"?!

wdym


source: trust me nasu bro - average kamachi supporter

 

[Paxton]

Then that means To Aru's Causality is weak as fuck and is being held on by pins and staples.

Using the casuality of the entire world to create a minor effect somehow equating to it being weak (in as much sense as "causality" being weak even works as a sentence).

Make it make sense.

 

[Astaro]

It legit feels like the opposite way for me to be 100% with you. It feels like the Magic System in To Aru makes zero sense and is honestly on par with Overlord's entire World being based on Magic than physics.

Do we really want to go there with how often Marvel’s terrible writers demand the entire cosmic hierarchy to be less then shit when the story needs them to be?

 

[Paxton]

It legit feels like the opposite way for me to be 100% with you. It feels like the Magic System in To Aru makes zero sense and is honestly on par with Overlord's entire World being based on Magic than physics.

It makes sense if you'd actually read what is being said instead of trying to miscontrue what is stated to mean something else.

 

[Astaro]

But he has to trick the other person into believing that hes somehow mimicking a big bang Astaro. There is not shape or form or anything you can sit here and describe to me that would make anyone outside of To Aru even begin to go "Ah yes Big Bang"

Unironically your actually just arguing "it just works" with little to no feats actually backing this claim up.

Not even that much. He just needs them to picture in their head the Big Bang by his gestures.

 

[Paxton]

Or that’s just how magic in this series works. Hence why it can range up to becoming a god that can do anything they want

With several asterisks attached, anyway.

 

[CrossTheHorizon]

So the current argument in play is that Aleister is going to make Doom think of a Big Bang by throwing up gang signs, and then cast a spell that makes Doom take damage like he actually experienced a Big Bang

This spell will know Dooms thoughts without interacting with his mind and manifest an effect on Doom directly without interacting with his armor and defenses

Based entirely on "Aleister did this to a bunch of animals once"

Goddamn, maybe I should visit the main BD more often, this shit is funny as fuck

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Do we really want to go there with how often Marvel’s terrible writers demand the entire cosmic hierarchy to be less then shit when the story needs them to be?

...If we are gonna say things like that... sure...
Still doesn't stop how absolutely weak To Aru's Casuality is that a simple spellcaster can accidentally break an entire "Multiverse" casting a simple ass spell.

All it means is that Marvel's "Omniverse" makes no sense and To Aru's is onpar with Overlord's.

 

[Paxton]

...If we are gonna say things like that... sure...
Still doesn't stop how absolutely weak To Aru's Casuality is that a simple spellcaster can accidentally break an entire "Multiverse" casting a simple ass spell.

All it means is that Marvel's "Omniverse" makes no sense and To Aru's is onpar with Overlord's.

Literally not what Astaro's quote says.

 

[Astaro]

...If we are gonna say things like that... sure...
Still doesn't stop how absolutely weak To Aru's Casuality is that a simple spellcaster can accidentally break an entire "Multiverse" casting a simple ass spell.

All it means is that Marvel's "Omniverse" makes no sense and To Aru's is onpar with Overlord's.

Or that Magic in Toaru is just that hax that it messes with the laws of causality.



What’s your excuse for the entire Celestial race getting flattened by a basic bitch like Black Bolt in that scan?

 

[Blade]

this is some cosmic soap opera levels, i can smell the no aru deception thread, suggs u aint alone anymore buddy

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Or that Magic in Toaru is just that hax that it messes with the laws of causality.

Uh, no?
You cannot walk away from the fact that the page itself and you stated that To Aru's Causality is so fucking flimsy, the entire "Multiverse" can be written because someone decided "I'm gonna conjure fire" and Causality just takes a fucking hike.

What’s your excuse for the entire Celestial race getting flattened by a basic bitch like Black Bolt in that scan?

Nothing past the fact that I'm not pretending Marvel doesn't have any flaws with it's cosmology just like DC doesn't... not sure why you believe that somehow stops To Aru from having a massively borked universe and trying to past it off as a feat when it's shit like Overlord's "Physics don't exist because MAGIC"

 

[Paxton]

Xhom try not to completely misinterpret a simple quote from Toaru

challenge: impossible