Crimson Dragoon
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Vector Prime, the impossible wall
Vector Prime, the impossible wallcd posted feats and she is barely, arguably, multiversal+
that's the equivalent of me wanking Alternity Bumblebee to be TOAA level because he's higher dimensional
So what of it? Why does having 24 higher dimensions grant a verse 1-A rating?
To conclude: That’s because their laws being “unlimited expansion/overwrite” applies to simply any-D structures. Taikyoku is a force that allows users to paint over all there is or at least exist above and manipulate all existence, it doesn’t matter how many “layers” are piled up. This is essentially showcased by Soujirou’s attempt to slash Akuro and Yakou’s attempt to block Ootake’s attack. Taikyoku is something else.
Hell, it was even stated that no matter how the picture extends itself in potency, it can never harm reality – this picture includes both 24D barriers and physical slashes, they bear no difference to Taikyoku at all.
This applies to things like the gods and singularity, putting both at minimum at 1A.
But of course scaling Harribel to R1 Ulquiorra is COMPLETELY out of the question, despite her being explicitly his superior in Rank AND not having a reason NOT to scale her to him (unlike Arroneirro).
"Oh all Rukia could do was momentarily restrain him and MAYBE harm him with a Kido Combo" which is A LOT more than she should be able to do, given she's a mid-high Lieutenant level fighter at best, taking on a Captain level fighter whose SUPPOSED to be stronger than the Privarron and Base Yammy.
Meanwhile Dordonni took Shikai Ichigo (who was already fighting CAPTAINS two arcs ago), no-sold the shit out of him and generally made him look like an utter chump.
dimensional tiering was a mistake
In physics and mathematics, the dimension of a mathematical space (or object) is informally defined as the minimum number of coordinates needed to specify any point within it.[1][2] Thus a line has a dimension of one (1D) because only one coordinate is needed to specify a point on it – for example, the point at 5 on a number line. A surface such as a plane or the surface of a cylinder or sphere has a dimension of two (2D) because two coordinates are needed to specify a point on it – for example, both a latitude and longitude are required to locate a point on the surface of a sphere. The inside of a cube, a cylinder or a sphere is three-dimensional (3D) because three coordinates are needed to locate a point within these spaces.
In classical mechanics, space and time are different categories and refer to absolute space and time. That conception of the world is a four-dimensional space but not the one that was found necessary to describe electromagnetism. The four dimensions (4D) of spacetime consist of events that are not absolutely defined spatially and temporally, but rather are known relative to the motion of an observer. Minkowski space first approximates the universe without gravity; the pseudo-Riemannian manifolds of general relativity describe spacetime with matter and gravity. 10 dimensions are used to describe superstring theory (6D hyperspace + 4D), 11 dimensions can describe supergravity and M-theory (7D hyperspace + 4D), and the state-space of quantum mechanics is an infinite-dimensional function space.
The concept of dimension is not restricted to physical objects. High-dimensional spaces frequently occur in mathematics and the sciences. They may be parameter spaces or configuration spaces such as in Lagrangian or Hamiltonian mechanics; these are abstract spaces, independent of the physical space in which we live.
Well Segunda Etapa is another discussion. I'm focusing more on them being unwilling to scale even R1 Ulquiorra's feats to Harribel, despite her obviously being superior.They always do Harribel like this for some absurd reason. They think that somehow, Ulquirroa is above her completely and even Barragan at times because Segunda Epata exists despite the fact that SE is ultimately an unknown of an unknown of how much it truly powers up Ulquirroa compared to Harribel's and Barragan's Ressurcion.
Exactly my point, Rukia achieving ANYTHING against someone supposedly stronger than the guy who stomped Shikai Ichigo, is just not happening.Remember that Ichigo survived a good bit against Byakuya's Zanpaktou in Shikai and even before that, fought against Kenpachi Zaraki to the point of a draw(Though Kenpachi handed him the win).
Which is exactly why I said Bankai would be more than enough for Arroneirro in that thread.And hilariously enough, Ichigo did fine in Bankai against Dordonni, the latter explicitly wanted Ichigo to go full power against him and aimed at NEL to do it. Boy later oneshotted him at full power so yeah, it was weird in that Ichigo could have defeated him in Bankai alone if he didn't try to basically impress himself.
Most dimensional abilities in fiction are basically just magic tbh
Well Segunda Etapa is another discussion. I'm focusing more on them being unwilling to scale even R1 Ulquiorra's feats to Harribel, despite her obviously being superior.
But yeah, SE gets handed way too much credit for just "it make big boom" and his CO matching H2's Cero (which ultimately killed him so it's really not as impressive as it seems, if anything it only emphasizes how much of a glass cannon he is). Ignoring of course that Espada 1 - 3 only fail to nuke Fake Karakura Town because the plot required them not to. Realistically basically any big attack should have nuked the town off the map.
Exactly my point, Rukia achieving ANYTHING against someone supposedly stronger than the guy who stomped Shikai Ichigo, is just not happening.
There's no way to make Arroneirro look good here. Even if you say he could have killed her at any time (which no one's doubting) he still massively under-performs for the level he's supposed to be at.
Which is exactly why I said Bankai would be more than enough for Arroneirro in that thread.
Thankfully no one seems to dispute that much...except for Sables who thinks it would be an even fight and that Gran Ray Cero could potentially give Arroneirro a win.ha
I was going to say VSB's dimensional tiering doesn't matter because no one actually takes it seriously
but quora and probably CV seem to disagree
honestly, there are cases where it probably could be valid but vsb's issue is aside from its already fucked up interpretation, is trying to use it as a system every fiction fitsBasically, if you are trying to use Dimensions in a real sense, all you would show is that you can destroy Concepts... which wouldn't equal Universal in any means. Because Space and Time count as their own Dimensions in the mathematical sense of the concept of Dimensions, which just points out how ridiculous it is to use it in these circumstances.
i see their tier lists used a lot on social media now lol vsb is sadly the way of the futureI was going to say VSB's dimensional tiering doesn't matter because no one actually takes it seriously
but quora and probably CV seem to disagree
honestly, there are cases where it probably could be valid but vsb's issue is aside from its already fucked up interpretation, is trying to use it as a system every fiction fits
when next to no fiction uses dimensions the same
it's almost like universes are nearly always the same across fiction and make a better baseline to use who would've thought
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