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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

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A classic.

Though it did surprise me to see that ComicVine almost unanimously thinks that Remo can also beat Goku.

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Didn't base Remo get upgraded to possibly galaxy level. Or whoever it was that summoned the spirits of previous martial artists to BTFO Shiva.
 
Goku move aside.

It's Remo Time. :dankpepe
Didn't base Remo get upgraded to possibly galaxy level. Or whoever it was that summoned the spirits of previous martial artists to BTFO Shiva.
Remo and Chiun. All hundred previous masters except Wang, who is the first master, flew in from the Void and on the way to Earth they twirled about a countless number of galaxies via some of their mystical energies. Just by flexing they could move galaxies. And by accolades Chiun and Remo are above them. Chiun being the only master to perfect The Flapping Duck, and Remo being christened the greatest master of sinanju in the last five-thousand years. By Wang himself no less, and his legacy began five-thousand years ago.

This was in Father to Son. The one where Remo's grandson fights Shiva is in More Blood.
 

Berserker wouldn't be the one in danger. Spirit form going by what's been mentioned, he'd have to momentarily be in a state where he can't attack or defend Ilya who, if she were typically human level of squishy; would simoultaniously be danger of the very same glyphs. It also might not be in character strat for him to do so. I've only seen some of the fights so I don't know about that last part.

Why do we keep pretending that Weiss's Glyphs would halt Heracles... at all? I have seen plenty of Weiss' Glyph use in the past and they are honestly STUPIDLY limited as they need to appear AND activate first and only work by Dust and aren't even true Magic and not even in the Magecraft sense, they really aren't magic even then. And considering they keep forgetting Heracles has EoTM, he CAN sense when something can actually hurt him or not and defend himself accordingly, which was why he usually needed to be caught off guard for Rin to even get a kill on him at all or the same for the other Servants.

Command Seals last I checked aren't automatic and need to be used. Which would mean she'd need to either be fast enough to activate it or tough enough to handle being fucked up by a glyph or the little teleport knight blindsiding her.

Again, Illya doesn't have Command Spells, that's literally just her modified Magic Circuits that are so potent, it pretends to act as one. She doesn't need to make any commands at all, all she would need to do is pour even more Mana into Heracles to get him into "Bad End" Mode(Both Figuratively as it basically just induces Hera's Madness and literally as when she does this, you tend to end up in a Bad Ending) and fuck everyone up.... not that it's needed for this.

Well if he can fly that could be a way of apply a constant pressure against her control, which would likely make it a lot harder sling out/maintain multiple glyphs if the propulsion is strong enough. That would be also good method of wearing her down too and dealing with the only actual useful thing they have.

...Heracles wouldn't need to do that...
We literally have a scene in the anime of UBW where Rin was only able to temporarily incapacitate him in a Gravity Spell before he broke out of that.

Weiss has never been shown on that same level ONCE.

Okay then, they've got nothing. One squishy target was really their only chance.
And by debris I meant shrapnel. Blast/shockwave/ettc that send chunks of earth flying are a serious hazard if you aren't superhuman. It shows up a lot in fiction never really focused on as an issue until it's plot relevant.

>Literally at Ground Fucking Zero of Heracles vs. Gilgamesh
>Both of their attacks can effortlessly destroy Plateaus with Shockwaves as we got in the past and even moreso currently with the Manga of Turas Realta
>Actually believe that Team RWBY has a better shot at killing Illya than fucking GILGAMESH.


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The highest levels of delusion possible.


Literally takes another poster finally showing that... HOLY SHIT ILLYA CAN ACTUALLY DEFEND HERSELF!!!
Although I would more say that she would absolutely murder RWBY by herself considering even Kotomine couldn't break out of that Magecraft and had to destroy the thick ass tree instead and her mothers and her's is 1:1
 

Nah, child on child violence is basic training.

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I get what he's trying to say but that's fucking HILARIOUS to actually type that... but no, that's completely wrong:
They have schools dedicated to teaching children how to fight to get them ready for monster fighting college. Yang will punch the shit out of a kid she actually cares for. Just ask her sister. Said sister also got over her weaponless weakness by punching a kid hard enough to send him flying.
Our heroes everybody...:kobeha

But seriously, they are pretending Oscar is a fucking kid when he's like 15-16 years old(like one year younger than Ruby), Illya looks fucking EIGHT. They have never brutalized kids before, they only fought teenagers.

They also come from a world were most combatants in general have aura. Because it's one of the basics that apparently even a kid can learn to do.

Are you sure about that? Because considering everything else, I heard the inverse of that and most people don't even have Aura unless they choose to or not to train for it. SEMBLANCES are something that only a few people have.

Knowing she a combatant and not a child means a lot more then her looks.

You guys see what I mean with "SB Competence"? They just pretend that RWBY will know she's a combatant and be able to kill her just like that despite nothing ever shown that they are that heartless(well outside of the shit they do due to their boneheaded writers:yousmart) to straight up kill a kid. Illya would hold all of the cards and would murder them the instant they somehow bypass Gilgamesh and try and kill her like Rin tried to do.


Wouldn't that be putting someone in more danger? That would mean being able to focus more power of the glyphs on a single target instead of two.

Yes because a bullshit Magus that gets her power from the Land and thus is basically near Holy Grail's level of power is somehow weak to a fucking GLYPH. Not even in it's own series is Glyphs this powerful, why do they keep pretending it is? Did he NOT watch the video where Illya's Magecraft effortlessly destroy Rin's Barrier the second she got serious? Why would that not happen for the Glyph if it would somehow hold Berserker for a moment? Weiss's Gravity/Time Glyph =/= Nasuverse Magecraft nor it's superior.
 

Haven't seen the latest Fantastic Beasts film yet, but before this thread becomes full of spoilers, I'm just going to drop this bit of info (which always appears in any Kiritsugu Emiya vs. X Magic User Thread) and then disappear: Origin Rounds shouldn't affect Dumbledore or Voldemort, because they very specifically sever magic circuits (how Fate mages use their magic) and shouldn't do anything to innate Potterverse magic (even per Forum Rules).

That said, they die to bullets all the same.

Have fun debating this point! Once I've seen the film, I'll be more active in threads like these.

I want to legit strangle Siriel for poisoning the Well this badly and this stupidly:


Again, Magical Circuits are literally a part of a person's soul and what is in their body is just a physical representation of it(i.e. They are like the Chakra Network in Naruto), Kiritsugu's Origin Rounds and his specialty in general can fuck with things that aren't Magic Circuits and even shit like Machinery, why WOULDN'T it affect other shit like that?
 

And speaking of which...

Either of the wizards managing to lift their hand mean that they instantly win by casting a paralysis spell, and there's not a whole lot Kotomine or Kiritsugu can do to stop that from that distance.

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This is some of the most retarded wank I have ever seen in my fucking life for Harry Potter Wizards since believing they can take on the Nasuverse Clock Tower with just Fiendfyre and it can blow through Bounded Fields because(despite not being able to get out of the Room of Requirement).

Nothing about the rule implies that a character's ability would become much more broadly applicable than it is in its own setting.

The Origin Bullet wouldn't do anything against a wide variety of beings in Kiritsugu's own setting, there's zero reason to believe it would do anything against someone from another setting unless their mechanics were functionally identical to what they actually work on (specifically magi with magic circuits).

That's literally fucking bullshit. It explicitly works on fucking Servants, that's the entire reason why he's so goddamned deadly as a Counter Guardian:
Phantasm Punishment: Mystery Bisection
Rank: C+
Classification: Anti-Personnel Noble Phantasm
Range: 0~2
Maximum Number of Targets: 1 person
A knife that has the power of the double attributes of “Severing” and “Binding” – Emiya’s own Origin – put into it. It causes fatal damage to opponents that possess either Magic Circuits, Magic Crests or anything similar to those inside their bodies. It is the same knife he has been using for his common time manipulation attacks. Its true ability is invoked according to its True Name Release.

Hell, his fucking Noble Phantasm explicitly shows his Origin explicitly can damage ANYTHING SIMILAR TO MAGIC CIRCUITS OR MAGIC CRESTS as if they predicted Siriel's bullshit ahead of time at that.
The only reason he never used his Origin Rounds on Servants is because they would notice the sheer danger and dodge it and it takes him precious seconds to even load it in... in which he would get slaughtered.

But otherwise this is just more bullshit for: "Naruto's Chakra Network should be able to work on other beings in other Naruto series but not Kiritsugu's Origin Rounds which works precisely the same fucking way".
 
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jk rowling also dumb as shit

She really should have shut her fucking mouth rather than fuck up her entire reputation both ways.

But seriously, fuck her too for basically creating this dumbass series where you end up with people wanking Dumbledore and Voldemort to high fucking heaven despite:

1. Harry Potter Magic is fucking weak as piss for actual magical abilities. I don't even know how the hell people think any Magical Duel in Harry Potter somehow beats anything from series like the Nasuverse, D&D and other shit

2. They keep being stupid and think Voldemort is somehow some super genius when he's a fucking idiot who is basically Palpatine on his Sith Highs(Basically when he's enjoying inflicting pain on others) all the fucking time. Dumbledore himself isn't even that smart, he's just decently perceptive all things considered.
 
"His mind is too different she can't mindfuck him" :russ

I don't know what's funnier:
Believing Ichigo is FTL(I think he's closest to Relativistic end of series from CT's calcs) since the Fake Karakura Town Arc or that.


And seriously, the same old trying to make Void Shiki be omnipotent crap from the same guy who actually believes Shiki Ryougi > Servants due to taking pieces of what Nasu said with his own headcanon and believing F/SN speed feats still matter for Servants.
Like this guy is basically to me what that fucker to Atem is for the constant Remo Williams threads.
 

On a serious thing, the fact that you have people arguing full on for fucking Void Shiki to be able to fight and defeat Ajimu and Fuu is absolutely fucking asinine.
She is not in any of these peoples' radars and it's ridiculous people will pick and choose her "feats" from what Nasu has literally stated and wrote about her.
 

Honestly even if the battle lasts long enough that Rin decides to go all-out with her gems, she probably can't win.

Ozpin has very high durability (relative to humans in the Nasuverse) on top of his ability to create barriers, so the only way she could put him down is with a condensed spell, but since he's also extremely fast he could just dodge it.

He couldn't dodge her bigger area of effects, but since the amount hitting him would be much weaker he could just tank it.

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We didn't even see Ozpin takes hits or even how he died against Cinder to begin with, HOW is he more tanky than any Nasuverse Human or Mage by any stretch of the definition? Siriel continues to downplay the series and RWBY stans get more high off the bullshit.

EDIT: "It was a Maiden Cinder though?" A Maiden Cinder that literally got full access to that power like MINUTES AGO. How the fuck that makes Ozpin > Rin? Or anyone else for that matter?

EDIT 2: And I just realized that if "Rin is outstripped by Ozpin, she gets access to the Jeweled Sword" condition... which is seen as an equal to Excalibur and even destroys Grail Mud like Excalibur... which Rin can spam almost as much as the actual Excalibur...
 
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